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Topic: Saito Steam Engine (Read 89820 times)
kiwimodeller
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #30 on:
March 27, 2011, 07:27:59 PM »
Thanks for that Eddie. The website had the wrong info, listing it as 12mm by 12mm, the same as the other two. Interstingly, since I started enquiring it has been removed from their listings. Regards, Ian.
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"Every time I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be some bastard with a train trying to run me down!"
derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #31 on:
April 10, 2011, 01:11:35 PM »
Hi PD's....and as kiwimodeller asks......
Derek, the paddler engine you bought is still listed on the website and I am seriously tempted to order one
Ian...you may have noticed.... but I had been out of intenet coverage
for two weeks..........
I see kno3 & Eddy have resolved your dimensional questions.........
As ir3 noted yesterday.
...dealing with SAITO importers is very difficult, however I suspect it is the communication link back to the manufactuer that is the root cause of all
frustration
Did you discuss a house re-mortage
with you bank manager to secure a beloved
SAITO engine? .......
Derek
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Derek Warner
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Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
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kiwimodeller
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #32 on:
April 10, 2011, 08:07:50 PM »
Hi Derek, your absense had been noted, half the forums on the net came close to closing down! The website I was looking at was R C Headquarters in Werribee, Vic (
http://www.rcheadquarters.com.au/
) . I have not done anything about another engine yet , still sorting out what I am going to go ahead with first but I thought their price of Aus$1170 for the 12mm x 20mm paddler horizontal engine was comparable with the price of similar engines in Europe. The T2Dr is listed at Aus$810, the three cyl engine at Aus$1260 and the T2GR at Aus$1440. They did eventually come back to me and admit that there were errors in the specs but they did not give a delivery time which is one of the reasons I hesitate to order. Cheers, Ian.
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"Every time I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be some bastard with a train trying to run me down!"
derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #33 on:
April 10, 2011, 08:34:42 PM »
Hi PD's.....
....but is Ian that has a funny sence of humour ..as it was I who was the lost one for a few weeks
Yes it was RC Headquarters in Werribee, Vic ...that I luckly found & purchased the Y2DR......from 20 year old stock
The cost quoted to you for 2011 for the Y2DR is identical to my 2010 purchase....
Good luck
....Derek
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Derek Warner
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Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
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derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #34 on:
May 14, 2011, 08:14:15 PM »
Hi PD's.....
..... a small modification in insulating the cylinders on the Y2DR.......
So now the engine lagging matches the lagging on the boiler...the condenser & the gas tank...same timber plank batch...same colour stain.....I am OK with the Cabot's Satin polyurethane spray on the engine covers today......
So will treat the other components
with the same spray .....even possibly tomorrow.....
....
Mr Saito really designed the porting & cylinder covers with such finesse that after modification with the wooden lagging attached to the brass cylinder covers......
you must orientate the M2 hex head screws retaining the cover so that the 3.0 mm AF head is @ 45 degrees to the axis 8.0 mm AF head of the pressure port fitting otherwise they foul during tightning of the pressure port fittings .....
....
Thank goodness that the wooden lagging is compressible ......Derek
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Derek Warner
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kno3
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #35 on:
May 15, 2011, 06:40:58 AM »
Very nice work Derek. The engine looks great with the wooden cladding. How did you fasten it? Glued?
Two narrow brass bands over the wood should look good, you already have the screws to fasten them at the ends.
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derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #36 on:
May 15, 2011, 07:56:57 AM »
Hi PD's......I tried K&S @ the model shop for brass strip kno3 ....I need 3.0 mm wide & then have to drill 2.0 mm for the M2 hex head bolts.....but it appears that 1/4" wide strip is the smallest imported into OZ.......so I will have to think more
Oh ...yes I had to split the 5 mm wide planks in two where they rounded the covers.... & standard ZAP CA was used
I also had great difficuilty with the very inside wooden corners chipping away when drilling for the M2 holes.....I ended up using CARBOG filler & stained it after sanding.....you cannot see it as the are under the M2 round washers .......Derek
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Derek Warner
Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
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www.ils.org.au
derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #37 on:
May 15, 2011, 11:58:42 AM »
Hi PD's...& here kno3 is the JMC engine lagging I copied ...it has the brass bands but with the engine of different construction
......the securing & placement of the bands is easier.......
There are surprisingly very few images on the .NET of model marine steam engines with such cylinder lagging....Derek
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Derek Warner
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Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au
Harold H. Duncan
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #38 on:
May 15, 2011, 01:43:27 PM »
Derek, you have one beautiful engine combo there, but one day your just going to have to put it into a boat, preferably a paddler.
Well done on the lagging
cheers
kiwi
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derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #39 on:
May 15, 2011, 03:31:46 PM »
Thanks Kiwi....I have acknowledged this Y2DR engine installation will be a retirement project
....it may be in the gutted out 1:24 scale hull of PS Decoy renamed as something else or a new 1:24 scale Oscar W which I have the Float a Boat plans to build & get it correct first time round
I have also acknowledged
building on my own based Decoy Drawings [December 2000] was not a good idea
.....Derek
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Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 09:12:27 PM by derekwarner_decoy
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Derek Warner
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Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
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kno3
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #40 on:
May 15, 2011, 09:37:28 PM »
Derek, you don't need to buy any brass strip. Just take the old brass cylinder covers, they have the screw holes already drilled. Mark the necessary widths on them and then cut 2 strips from each using metal shears.
And then get to building that boat, it's been years since you're tinkering with this steam plant, you'll end up ruining it
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Harold H. Duncan
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #41 on:
May 16, 2011, 04:57:57 AM »
Is ok Derek, just having a bit of fun
at your expense. I'm not much faster than you in building my paddler. But your ahead, as you have your power plant
I'm a little green with envy re your saito, very nicely done.
Had planed on having started ps Koheroa by now, but having Kiwimodeller (Ian) wanting a fibre-glass hull of ps Manuwai to install his steam plant into means I may be now be building a Waikato version in parallel with him.Mine will be electric in a scale depth hull though, while Ian's is deepened to give extra displacement for the steam plant. Hopefully a build thread later in the year.
cheers
kiwi
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derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #42 on:
August 06, 2011, 02:26:35 PM »
Hi PD's........I see that the Saito building WEB page
is now Y2011 & up to date
The link below will take you to Korea for a Saito steam symposium
Unfortunately the Y2011 site offers little new information for marine model steam.....
.....Derek
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsaito%2Bmodel%2Bsteam%2Bengines%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1Q1GGLD_enAU366AU366&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://www.saito-mfg.com/top.htm&usg=ALkJrhj8K1q5hTk7KG0HY2cLIJFUUPS8Cw
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Derek Warner
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Peter Webster
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #43 on:
August 19, 2011, 08:42:00 PM »
Derek I have a Saito 4cyl Vee engine, no longer in production. I inherited it from a sailing mate who recently passed away. It powers a 30 inch oregon sandwich built coastal trader. I don't know what the seals are made of. This runs well and I'm not game to touch it.
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derekwarner_decoy
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Re: Saito Steam Engine
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Reply #44 on:
August 20, 2011, 01:37:04 PM »
Hullo Peter..........I am sure many would be interested in a few photogrphs of this Saito 4cyl Vee engine ........
...I have never seen an example........
....Derek
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Derek Warner
Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
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www.ils.org.au
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