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Author Topic: Long build.. Talisman 1  (Read 58501 times)

Offline Talisman

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2009, 07:41:55 AM »
Eddy, on one of my many trolls around Ebay before you came up with a solution i found a great motor
Spec :

12 v electric motor. 

Motor spec:-

Body:                           52mm dia  85mm long

Shaft:                           single end 5.0mm dia ballraced

Commutator:                 12 pole, low noise

Voltage:                       12v DC

No load RPM:               6700 1.2A

Max efficiency:             5250rpm, 1500g cm, 80w, 12A, efficiency 55%

Max power:                  3200rpm, 3500g cm, 115w, 24A


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-v-ELECTRIC-MOTOR-12v-PRICE-INCLUDES-POSTAGE_W0QQitemZ290314955805QQihZ019QQcategoryZ26209QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262


I bought one and as soon as i had a look at it in the flesh i stock piled them just in case...


Not sure if it helps but can definitely recommend these motors and at £10 inc postage not a bad price.


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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2009, 07:45:07 AM »
It's all progressing nicely Kim..... I can see that the race is on! :)


I've got 2 New Pence bet on you winning Eddy so stop it with the days off please :)

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2009, 07:53:41 AM »
Thanks Kim, nice looking motors, the only problem is they would need a gear reduction of around 50:1

I'll keep looking, but I do have a fallback solution if all else fails :)

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2009, 06:42:06 AM »
A trip to the Model shop via Ikea....

Today i took my wife out for a special treat a trip to the model shop with the promise of breakfast on route.....  :hehe

We stopped at Ikea for Breakfast. 99p for a breakfast including coffee how do they do it ?...

First bit of treasure i got my hands on were the wooden stirring sticks. Ideal i though while stirring my coffee before stuffing my face ...
These will be great for making a Gangway or two so a stock was acquired.

Next up was a set of four sauce dishes (not sure if that is their correct name) Ventilator sprang to mind £1.99 for four stainless steel bowls at the correct dia.


At the checkout i noticed some artificial tea lights with a nice warm glow from an led. I need two sizes of cowl these just happen to be correct dia for the second set of cowls. On getting them home i managed to remove the innards which no doubt will be used within the hull for a nice glow. they have the dinkiest little switch, are lightweight & run on 3v (supplied by a watch type battery)

The Main event ... the model shop

4 sheets of ply 1 sheets of balsa and a far lighter wallet were done.  Back to the bench. Nope wife has other ideas. A painfull hour being dragged around PradaMark  and were home... :)


The owner of the model shop might be able to get my paddle wheels cut for me so fingers firmly crossed .....


Back at the bench and it was another dusty afternoon..

Paddle sponsons and bits measured & cut.

A good day...
« Last Edit: May 08, 2009, 06:49:08 AM by Talisman »

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2009, 06:55:30 AM »
The snag with taking the wife to the modelling shop is that she gets to know how much things cost!! Not a good move! :)

I've got nothing done this week at all.... Monday taxi duty, tuesday daughters birthday, wednesday club day, today taxi duty again, and tomorrow I'm off to the model engineering show at Harrogate......

Eddy
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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2009, 07:00:30 AM »
While the sun shines Eddy .... Unfortunately i feel there may be rain over the Horizon :(
I meant to say  :birth to your Daughter Eddy but in all the excitment i forgot. I hope you all had a good day
Regards
Kim
« Last Edit: May 08, 2009, 07:02:35 AM by Talisman »

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2009, 07:06:43 PM »

Hi Kim

Thanks for the information about Ikea. Great thinking there. I've been collecting 'MacDonalds free coffee stickers lately, (mind you, their Buns are fattening!!) and whilst there, grabbing a handful of their coffee stirer sticks. Lovely bit of wood. Might find a use for them one day.  ;)

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2009, 11:47:00 PM »
101 uses for coffee stiring sticks...

Yep Ken your right they are nice. First use for me was mixing epoxy much nicer than the usual piece of scrap :)

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2009, 12:37:34 AM »
I picked up a box of 1,000 coffee stiring sticks at staple office supply on clearence for $0.99. All of the same size which you don't get picking them up a few at a time. The Ikea breakfast can be a good thing, but the manager did give us a look when we showed up with 35 Cubs and Scouts.
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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2009, 01:34:11 AM »
Kim,
Have you tried using anglers fishing floats for cowal vents?
They come in different diameters and I cut them in "half" just past the halfway join so that it gives them a bit of a lip but unfortuneately you can only get one vent out of one float that way. Epoxied on to dowel they do the trick!            Sandy

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2009, 06:19:54 AM »
Good ideas Sandy. May use them in future thanks.

Only time for an hours work this eve so only time to rough cut the vents in the paddle boxes.
The Builder's drawings don't have an elevation of the boxes and vents so Photos, scale dividers & guesstimating for this job.

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2009, 09:40:31 AM »
Talisman,
Your paddlebox fan vents look great,- I enlarged a side-on photo of Waverley to do mine accurately...these small things make all the difference in my opinion.
What condition are you modelling Talisman/Kenilworth in , as built, or later with bridge forward, or grey hull?
Clark

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2009, 11:57:06 AM »
101 uses for coffee stiring sticks...

Yep Ken your right they are nice. First use for me was mixing epoxy much nicer than the usual piece of scrap :)

I got something similar from McDonalds and use them for stirring paint, mixing adhesive etc. I'd intended to use them for something like the bridge surround but found they seemed to be impregnated with wax or something and resist woodstain and adhesive too well to be used...

For large (but light weight) cowl vents I found the plastic 'eggs' (with cheap toys inside) you get in slot machines outside newsagents are ideal, just stick the styrene half (the coloured half is vinyl-type plastic) on a length of styrene tube..cost about 20p each - or pick up the discarded ones off the ground!

Those tea-lights sound like a great idea if you want a flickering flame-effect for candle or oil lamps on a model, should be possible to hide the circuits inside the hull with wire to the lamps, and tint the LED using coloured laquer....leaded window stuff should work  (I'm thinking of something like the lamps used on the Ben Ain...)
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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2009, 02:28:37 AM »
Talisman,
Your paddlebox fan vents look great,- I enlarged a side-on photo of Waverley to do mine accurately...these small things make all the difference in my opinion.

Yep i agree, but i have had to guestimate these bits a little. Don't worry if there not right i will try again.

Just for info the Kenilworth vents are slightly different. pic below


What condition are you modelling Talisman/Kenilworth in , as built, or later with bridge forward, or grey hull?
Clark

She will be named Talisman and detailed as far as possible on 1934 condition. i.e. wider salon, black hul, panneling detail, brige infront of funnel etc.
One of the best pics i can find is on page 44 of Alistair Deaton's book Steamers of the Clyde NB& LNER

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Re: Long build.. Talisman 1
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2009, 04:05:14 AM »
Hi Kim,
yes I think she looks better with wider saloon & bridge forward. I did a small amount of repair work to a waterline Kenilworth in that condition for a local museum.
The panelling & lining look smart.

 

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