Hi Richard,

It helps more than anyone might think it would, cheers!

I suggest it wasn't taken as you said when the bow rudder was fitted though, that was done between the 1966 and 1967 seasons, by which time the ship has already existed as Queen of the South for a year, so would have had that name painted on.

I wonder instead if it is undergoing repairs following the incident illustrated in the photo posted by Hans earlier up this thread? The style of the name suggests it is prewar, so that would line up, after the war the name was in a different style even though the gold stripes were restored....

Thanks again for posting it 

Hi Andrew,

Are you thinking about the very funny stem plate, almost like two sheets rivited together that roll under the forepeak then fade out as the keel takes over?

I saw that on the plans and thought it was strange too.

Shows up clearly on the photograph just posted.

All the best
Sandy

Hi Sandy, thats kind of it yes.

There is a plate on each side (A12 on the Shell Expansion, i'm sure you've seen that at Mitchell?) which do 'curve under' as you say, they come down one each side, and are riveted to the stem which is 4x1'' which rises from just in front of frame 111 forwards.

It is the part where the plate is riveted to the stem, and those (Keel 11) that are part of the flat keel join/merge that i am having some issues with.

I am hoping to be able to build my model out of tinplate, although even if that isn't possible it will still need the plates to be just right as they will be thin plastic on wood.

This photograph of Richards, does show an amount of shape to those A12's which I had hoped it would, the only way I can get my lines to work is with quite a bit of shape there, so it has really helped with that, but I still ideally need a pic of that exact point where the Keel11 joins the A12! (Hope that makes sense!)

There used to be an excellent close up photo of the same part of Waverley's forefoot on the PSWaverley.org.uk website but it seemed to have gone recently, it might have helped, the two sections are not identical, but pretty similar.

Might have to make a mock up with balsa and plasticard to fully understand....

Cheers!