Found another photo of my Waverley model in 1973 at the pond in Dunoon. Anyone able to identify the other paddler and the pier?
Robert
Is it either Juno or Jupiter? not sure what the difference is, don't know about the pier either :)
Yes it is either the Juno or the Jupiter but I think that the photo is too small to tell which one. I think that the pier may be meant to represent Craigendoran but I am not sure.
Robert
Hi,
As far as I know, the external difference between the 1937 Juno & Jupiter was the placement of the destination "fan" boards just aft of the funnels. One of the sisters had hers slightly further aft. Cant make it out in the photo.
The pier is Craigendoran, I have noticed that the Model Steamer Club in Glasgow use a model of this pier in their displays still.
regards
Clark
Clark,
Thanks for confirming that the pier is Craigendoran. I have uploaded a new photo of my Caledonia model to the gallery. Have a new camera and I was experimenting with trying to get a realistic deck view with all parts in focus. See what you think of it.
Robert
Hi Robert,
Looks great - what wood did you use for the bridge wings & fan boards? I have a few samples of woods for that purpose, but havn't started experiments yet - got a mountain of lime to cut into deck planking first!
Just noticed the loudspeakers on the bridge wings, will have to see if they were there in the mid 50's and add them to my Caledonia, dont think I can get a shopkeeper in without breaking the window though...
regards Clark
Sadly Robert, the pond at Dunoon's West Bay is in a bad state the last time I looked, abandoned is not the right word!
and Clark, have a look at my model of JUPITER in the Castle Gardens Museum and see where the fan board is on it. Sandy
Hi Sandy,
Yes the pool is half filled in, think Scottish Water are doing something on the site eventually. Its a mess!
Havn't been in the Castle House Museum for years, I will go in the spring when it opens and have a look at your Jupiter. If I remember correctly, there are several paddlers on display, a Talisman in monastral blue & others.
regards
Clark
Clark =
I have JUPITER; TALISMAN; and car ferry JUPITER in there just now and on my last visit they badly need re-rigging.
I don't manage back "home" so often now and when I do Cowal House museum isn't open so I don't get to repair them. I also donate my miniatures of the Clyde fleet.
Clark,
The wood which I used for the bridge was a 1/16" thick marine ply. Carefully selected so that all of the wood grain was going in the correct direction. Then it was wood stained to a suitable wood shade. Fan boards I think were made from mahogany strips.
Sorry to hear that the pond at Dunoon is no longer in use. We also used to go to the pond at Largs. It is still there?
Robert
Sandy,
I will take a walk past the museum and see if there is anyone about, I think the manager goes in during the winter occasionally. I cant remember his name.
If I can get access I will get some photos of your models and post them - failing that, I think it opens to the public around easter time.
Robert,
I have some thin marine ply, as you say it is just a case of getting the right shade with the stain, definately worth the effort for the finished effect as your photo shows.
I'm not sure about the pool at Largs, although I know there is a model boat club in the town - maybe they use it. I passed through Largs last week - a lot of reconstruction work happening at the pier this winter.
regards
Clark
Clark
When you were last at the museum, was there a 55" long model of WAVERLEY in the case, as that one is now owned by Walter Snowdon.
I'm coming north to Strone next saturday for a Burns supper at Ardentinny, so I might see if theres anyone at Castle House.
and Robert. see my photo, my pier's bigger than yours!
I'll get wrong now from Eddy for posting non paddler stuff!
Quote from: sandystrone on January 14, 2009, 06:28:03 AM
I'll get wrong now from Eddy for posting non paddler stuff!
Shouldn't think so, it's the 'off topic' topic!
I quite like Maid of Ashton actually, looked at the ship many a time in London and wondered about what bits have been altered/added...
Sandy,
Nice model of the Maid of Ashton. Wouldnt it have been great if the real Maid has been at Blairmore pier and that you had managed to photograph the two together.
Posting a photo of the Maid in London
Robert
Thanks Robert for ASHTON photo.
Another from the past, my collection of Clyde steamer miniatures scale 40' to the inch in balsa.
I have made 160 of them but unfortunately I haven't got the space to display them all at once.
Made them on nightshift before I retired! (so thats why the economy is in a state!)
Sandy,
Yes I think there was a model of the Waverley about that size in the museum, in preservation colours post 1975 I think.
I will call in past the museum this week, its on my way to work, and see if anyone is about. If so, I will ask if anyone will be in on Saturday, if you like.
Nice model of the "Maid", what scale is she?
regards
Clark
Sandy,
Nice collection of small scale Clyde steamers. I think I spotted the MV Ashton. There were two of these small boats. What was the name of the other one.
Robert
ROBERT
The two small motor vessels were ASHTON and LEVEN which ran between Largs and Millport. I believe both are still in existence south of the border.
CLARK
thanks for the PA. I'll get in touch with John Stirling if I know what I'm doing week on Sat morning. You can get in touch with me = sandystrone@hotmail.co.uk.
To remind you what JUPITER was like! Sandy
Clark,
Found another one of my model at the boating pond in Largs. Has not scanned to well but I thought that I would post it anyway.
Sandy,
I like your models. How many large scale model steamers have you built now.
Regards
Robert
Love the photo of your WAVERLEY off Dunoon pier.
I used to spend my lunch break from Dunoon Grammar school, on the upper prom deck of that pier during the sailing season.
An ABC car ferry would leave for Gourock at 1.10 then QUEEN MARY would come in at 1.20 and JEANIE DEANS at 1.25 both bound for Rothesay, with a MAID coming up firth for Craigendoran, oh happy days, then I had to go back up the hill for lessons!
Got friendly with the staff on the turnstiles and didn't have to pay the two penny pier dues! Sandy
Robert,
Like the photo, looks like your Waverley is backing into berth 1. I remember the Dunoon pier model that the steamer club had - only thing is, it reminds me of work & I'm back tomorrow after leave! Although, Sandy has given me the idea of charging pier dues again, I'm sure no-one would mind, its only for my pocket money!
Clark
Help! I'm suffering from nostalgia overload. Gone are the days when a whole week of the school hols could be spent trying to sail on every available steamer. Thanks for the memory joggers Sandy.
Hey, this is all heavy nostalgic stuff, so here goes wwith my twopennorth (or twa bawbies) worth. In the days of my youth in 1955 I was fourteen and my mate Jim and I had saved most of our years paper round money for "A trip of a lifetime" during the six week school holidays.. We got a return rail ticket from Darlington to Glasgow armed with a rucksacks, a small tent etc with the intention of riding as many Clyde steamers as we could until our money ran out. We bought "runabout" tickets which I think lasted two weeks and allowed travel on any steamer. Starting from Dunoon with a fistfull of timetables we sailed ocross and up and down the Clyde until evening when we would go ashore, find the nearest bit of grass or sand and pitch our tent. Cook sausages and beans (every day) and jam sandwhiches and into ouir sleeping bags. Up at crack of dawn, onto the first steamer and off we would go again. Grab a bag of chips for lunch, camp where we stopped at night and so on, for three and a half weeks until our money ran out!
Most of the pursers got to know us so well, they would great us with the latest timetable alterations or gossip about the ships! The ships cafe staff would oftain slip us a crafty bacon sandwhich or cake when we went below for our statutory "IRON BREW". That was one holiday to last for a lifetime.
Sadly, todays nanny state wont allow children the freedom to roam as I used to. regards, Walter.
Clark = never mind about my pier dues, what about all those camp site fees that Walter owes!
Tight white settlers eh Bob!
More nostalgia for Bob Golder
Macbraynes SAINT COLUMBA is 87" long
As you say Sandy tight :ranting and can't even spell IRN BRU. I bet he didn't sail on any of McBraynes as his runabout wasn't valid on them and he'd have to pay, jus as I did :'( Just as well he didn't go to the western isles where he would certainly have his pocket emptied :angel " The earth belongeth to the lord, and all that it contains - Except the western isles which belongeth to Mc Braynes" :angel
Me? Tight? Who is it that keeps an OPEN tube of superglue in his sporran in case of illegal entry? Or a time-lock and man trap in his wallet?. I think his name begins with B and finishes with B and theres an Oh in it somewhere!. Your right, we could only travel on British Rail ships with our runabout tickets, but it did allow us to have unlimited ship and train access. regards, walter PS. we did try to play the innocent and get on a couple of Mcbrayne ships but those Scots are real spoilsports and wanted money.
Are these the small models on display in the Bute Museum at Rothesay?
\\No Alistair, they are ones on display at Cowal Heritage Museum in Dunoon's Castle Gardens, opposite the pier.
Formerly the Council Chambers but we knew it as the Tulloch Library.
Hi Robert,
I might be able to confirm your photograph. It is the Jupiter built and owned by Lee McLean of The Model Steamer Club of Glasgow The pier is the clubs Craigendoran pier with the original 'thin' model pier building. It was only the front that was modelled so that the whole pier could be placed against a concrete pond edge. The club did a number of shows in the early years at Dunoon, sadly the pond fell into disrepair, drained, and we haven't been back for nearly 20 years. It also looks like one of the Duchess turbines at the top of the picture at the other pier.
Regards
Ian McGhie
Model Steamer Club Glasgow
Ian,
Thanks for that piece of information. I can remember I used to travel through to Maxwell Park in Glasgow as the steamer club used to meet there. At that time I think most people had radio control with up to 9 channels. Old fashioned compared to todays equipment.
Found another photo as I am in tidy up mode. This was taken in November 1975 when the Scottish Tourist Board borrowed my model for a conference. Viewing the model in the photo is the former Lord Provost of Glasgow, Sir William Gray and the Chaiman of the STB Mr Robin MacLellan. 33 years ago - time marches on.
Robert
Robert,
I'm sure I have a picture of your Waverley in an old (70's) edition of Paddle Wheels magazine, I will have a rake around and see if I can find it. I meant to ask you, after looking at your Caledonia photo, can you remember what paint you used for the "monastral blue" hull colour, if it was a Humbrol or other make, or did you mix it yourself?
Clark
Clark,
The shade of blue which I used for the Caledonia hull was from the authentic colours supplied by Precision Paints. It is BR blue 1966 to 1985 and is available as an enamel either matt, satin of gloss for brush application. Can also be supplied in aerosol tins 150ml
The company is now called Phoenix and deal mainly with all of the railway colours. Check their website www.phoenix-paints.co.uk. or phone 01268 730549
Code P132 BR BLUE
Robert
Robert,
Thanks for the info on the BR blue, I will check out the website. I fancy doing a Waverley in that livery, I havnt seen one before. Also Sandys model of the Talisman looks great in those colours.
Clark