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george britnell

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« on: June 15, 2005, 02:29:43 AM »
Dear Paddleduck members,

Things have really gotten silent on our site lately. I know that with
the world situation people have a lot of things on their minds so I
thought I would start by telling everyone what my current paddle
related projects are.
I gathered up all the sketches, photographs and any other information
I had compiled while building the Suter and started making some
actual drawings in Autocad. The drawings will be left, right, front,
rear and plan views along with detail drawings of areas that need
further clarification. I don't plan on dimensioning them as the scope
of this would be extremely time consuming. A person could take the
drawing and apply his own scale and construction techniques to
building a model. So far I am about a third of the way along with the
drawings but things are slowing right now with the onset of the
Christmas season. I just moved into a new home the end of October and
it will be some time before my shop is set back up so that I can get
into building another boat so with Autocad at my disposal through
work and home I thought the time could be best filled with making
drawings. When complete I will let everyone know in case someone is
interested in making a model of a Mississippi type sternwheel towboat.
I gather by reading the mail on Paddleducks that the most vocal
members are from England or Australia where they have boats of a
completely different design than what most of us are familiar with
here in the States. I find it very interesting to learn of the
different designs from around the world.

Here's hoping that everyone has a Merry Christmas and a very happy
New Year and that the world may once again find some sanity .

P.S. Come on guys, let's hear what's going on with you modeling
endeavors. This is a small fraternity so let's keep up the interest.

Sincerely,
George D. Britnell

Paulrjordan

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 02:30:47 AM »
Hi George:

Good to hear from you..and THANKS for taking the time to bring us up
to date on your "Suter" drawings. Yes...things are quiet here at the
ol Paddleduck Pond..but it's to be expected...this time of year is so
hectic..both at work and at home. However, I never worry when
somebody has some news to share or needs information we're all
here..maybe our people are researching and working on model
projects?

So long as we're not losing members, that's the main thing and our
little group has steadily expanded to over 90 members worldwide now.

I don't really have too much news to share either but, like you, I'll
join in and muse along too..so, forgive me if I just ramble on a bit
tonight!!!

By the way for all you more recent Members, George has built a lovely
38" static display model of the sternwheel snag boat "Suter". See
photos of her in the "Photos" section at:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Paddleducks/lst

> I gathered up all the sketches, photographs and any other
> information I had compiled while building the Suter and started
> making some actual drawings in Autocad. The drawings will be left,
> right, front, rear and plan views along with detail drawings of
> areas that need further clarification.

I envy you...two disciplines I promise to master in 2002 are Cad
drawing AND database design. I have seen the excellent quality of cad
drawings which friends of mine do for Model railroad equipment and it
sure beats a pencil and scale ruler! Which CAD program are you using,
George?

> I just moved into a new home the end of October and
> it will be some time before my shop is set back up so that I can get
> into building another boat so with Autocad at my disposal through
> work and home I thought the time could be best filled with making
> drawings.

Congratulations on the new home...I still havn't recovered from our
almost 3,000 mile move to the West Coast 3 years ago! We moved from
our enormous house replete with two workshops and 25 foot model "train
room" into a tiny three bedroom townhouse and it was a real culture
shock not to have all the space we were accustomed to. My youngest of
three sons , an AVID Model Railroader, was desperately unhappy in his
new surroundings here with the loss of the large railway layout
...that is, right up until we discovered "Train Simulator". Now he
seems to have entirely forgotten the 20 boxes of model railroad
equipment languishing in storage!

> I gather by reading the mail on Paddleducks that the most vocal
> members are from England or Australia where they have boats of a
> completely different design than what most of us are familiar with
> here in the States. I find it very interesting to learn of the
> different designs from around the world.
>

Yes, me too...I have learnt so MUCH from Paddleducks..and it inspires
me to constantly research new areas. I especially like to hear of
paddlers from all around thw world..maybe ones who represent a
special memory..ones that are different or maybe played a special
part in our maritime history. For instance I have ordered a book by a
fellow called John Bierman published about 15 years ago..it's about
400 Jewish refugees who were the last to escape Nazi occupation and
fled in a decrepid old sidewheeler..and a voyage which eventually took
4 years! Apparently the account is fascinating and I'm anxious to see
what the old ship looked like. I've also purchased on Ebay three
inexpensive books about paddlers which operated in the Pacific
Northwest and British Columbia. "Pacific Steamboats" (Newell &
Williamson), "Mississippi Steamboat Era" (Joan & Thomas Gandy)
and "Paddlwheels on the frontier Vol 1" (Art downs). I'm trying to
learn as much as I can about our British Columbia Lake and coastal
paddlers in preparation for a lecture which Robert Turner, the noted
paddlewheeler author and historian, is giving to our Club in January.

As for New Year's Resolutions...I'm going to make a conscious effort
to do MORE modeling in 2002...this year has really been a bit of a
disaster at the workbench (small as it is!). I spent a lot of time
involved in our local Club (The Victoria Model Shipbuilding Society)
but I've managed to pass on some of my responsibilities to some
enthusiastic new members of our Executive. I'm going to try to spend
less time at the computer..although I love the research aspect of
paddlewheelers and exchanging information on these lovely ships...the
Internet is such an invaluable tool...and I get to meet some really
neat people!

I have three research projects on the go.... "Princess Louise" a
gorgeous Canadian Pacific sidewheeler which was a frequent visitor to
Victoria (and which NOBODY seems to have plans for!)..the sleek "PARIS
IV" virtually the ultimate in Cross Channel Railway paddler
engineering, based in Newhaven, Sussex... AND the delightful Excursion
steamer "Worthing Belle". Once the research is complete and I have
good plans, the building is very straight forward. As they say "90%
planning and 10% execution!"

Recent "paddler purchases" on Ebay have been a Lifelike Plastic model
of "Robert E. Lee" which is 22" long and eventually might be a fun
mini R/C model to build. I recently scored a lovely largish print of
"Medway Queen" which looks like it has been taken out of a book. But
the lithography is good and it will look great framed in the office
here

> Here's hoping that everyone has a Merry Christmas and a very happy
> New Year and that the world may once again find some sanity .
>
> P.S. Come on guys, let's hear what's going on with you modeling
> endeavors. This is a small fraternity so let's keep up the interest.

Well...if anyone else here has a spare half hour or so and wants to
just "ramble" and share a few thoughts about ANYTHING..just click the
"post" button and let ya fingers do the talking! It may seem mundane
to you..but YOUR news and thoughts is what makes these forums tick...

In any case...we'll be talking before Christmas...so I wish a good
weekend to you all...everywhere!

PJ

Edward Matthews

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 02:31:44 AM »
That sounds VERY interesting George... I'd certainly be interested in
the plans when you have them ready. I don't know what it is about the
Suter, but I find it one of the most attractive sternwheelers I've
seen and I'd love to build it.

> Here's hoping that everyone has a Merry Christmas and a very happy
> New Year and that the world may once again find some sanity .

All the best to you and your family too George - Lets hope that 2002
is a little better than 2001 was!

> P.S. Come on guys, let's hear what's going on with you modeling
> endeavors. This is a small fraternity so let's keep up the interest.

Well, I'm currently building a 1:12 scale SR.N6 hovercraft and a
Thames sailing barge - Unfortunately neither of them are of much
interest to the members of the paddleducks group!

Regards
Eddy

Paulrjordan

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2005, 02:32:34 AM »
> Well, I'm currently building a 1:12 scale SR.N6 hovercraft and a
> Thames sailing barge - Unfortunately neither of them are of much
> interest to the members of the paddleducks group!
>
> Regards
> Eddy

Actually...buddy..they ARE of interest...specially when things are a
little quiet here on the paddler front. I fully recognize that MOST
of us spend a lot of time in OTHER areas of modeling..not JUST
paddlewheelers.

I try to keep a very open mind on this forum and realize it is PEOPLE
who keep it going..and I find paddler enthusiasts equally fascinating
as the ships and models themselves! Again, it's YOU people who make
this worthwhile... with all your diversified interests and
contributions to these pages. I've spoken to some of you on the phone
and even met others in person (conversed with many by email!)..and
there wasn't ONE I didn't thoroughly like! Maybe we SHOULD all meet
on the Murray River in 3 years time for our first "Paddleducks
International Convention!!!"

So yes...do find time to tell us about your OTHER modeling
endeavours..railroads, postcard collecting, hovercraft..no MATTER
what! They are all linked in some way with what we do here...whether
it's through research methods or modeling techniques. I find a great
number of paddlewheeler enthusiasts are also railway buffs..and you
don't have to read too many books to find out the historical
connection linking them.

Sure, Paddleducks is about PADDLEWHEELERS and the love of them..and
not JUST models..but a place for people to forge personal friendships
with others who share their interest in ANY aspect of PADDLEWHEELERS.
It's a place for us to be ever mindful of those who are seeking to
preserve these wonderful and important ships in Museums, through books
and writing, ON THE WATER! So, making models of them, static OR
operational, is an expression of our affection of these ships, and
it's through these efforts that more models will be on display..and
little kids everywhere will gaze in wonder at these beautiful examples
of a golden age of engineeering, elegance and design.

Now..for you others out there who don't know.... Eddy, who is also a
moderator here on Paddleducks, is list owner of R/C Hovercraft, a
Yahoo!Group which has swollen to well over 100 members in little more
than a month. The activity and enthusiasm is HIGH there and, as
support moderator for the group, I read all the posts and find them
fascinating...I have a 15-year old who is BEGGING me to build one!!!
Find the group at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rchovercraft/

Eddy and I use the Paddleducks CHAT server and try to get together
every couple of weeks or so at MIDNITE Canadian Pacific time (8 am
UK). So let us know if you'd like to join in sometime!

We also have another sister group which some of you might find
interesting too. If you like ANY aspect of R/C Model boats then
you'll enjoy the action up at Modelboats:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ModelBoats/

So, go ahead..tell us about some of your OTHER interests..after
all...THIS is the time of year for SHARING!! In fact, I'm just
charging up batteries and getting ready for a day at the pond ...R/C
sailboat Racing!

All the best to you all!

PJ

Joe E Brown

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 02:33:14 AM »
Happy Holidays everyone. I'm currently working on a 1:32 scale r/c
model of the sternwheeler Lady Lois, and a 1:48 scale r/c triple
screw towboat Cooperative Enterprise. I am also in the final research
phase of building a replica of the stern wheeler "Cotton Blossom"
used in the 1954 film "Showboat" of course it will be r/c too. I've
done a little updating to my site so come visit now and then.
http://www.dragg.net/jbrown

Derek Warner

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2005, 02:33:59 AM »
On December 17, 2001 4:09 AM<paulrjordan@canada.com resonded back to Eddy -
"Actually.... buddy"etc

Couldn't agree more PJ - I know that paddleducks are an informal group, but
some six months ago we agreed that literally any marine comment or content
re the model or the actual was suitable for posting - where else do we
learn!

So Eddy I would be most interested in reading all or any of your postings re
the SR.N6 hovercraft or the Thames sailing barge etc, or for that matter any
marine project by any other members - regards Derek

Edward Matthews

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Paddleboat stuff and other things
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 02:34:38 AM »
Okay Derek and Paul (and anyone else that's interested),

The Thames barge is from an HFM kit which is about 30" in length, and
is a styrene hull and deck with wooden masts and white metal fittings
etc. My model is about half built right now and should be on the
water early in the new year.

The SR.N6 is based on the plans released by Mark Porter, (the plans
are available on his website for FREE download, see
http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.porter/simplen5.html )The plans are
for a 1:16 semi scale model of the SR.N5 which can easily be made
into an SR.N6 by extending the length by 4 window bays. I have
enlarged them to 1:12 scale, and I've also made some modifications so
the the skirt is a full serial feed skirt (ie all the air is blown
into the skirt, and it then fills the plenum chamber via holes on the
inside of the skirt). My model is based on the Canadian Coast Guards
SR.N6 rescue hovercraft - Purely because I love the general color
scheme of that particular craft. It will be elcetrically powered
using a 600 lift motor and a 600 propulsion motor - This will be my
third hovercraft model and will be the most detailed I've attempted
so far.

For anyone that is really interested in radio controlled model
hovercraft, I've setup a Yahoo group for them which can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rchovercraft/

Once those two are finished, I still have my model of the Director
class paddletug "Forceful" to sort out - I've been meaning to sort it
for the last year, but other things kept getting in the way! :-)

Regards
Eddy

 

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