Antelope 1909

[jecobin]

Hi All,

Can anyone give me the specifications for the sternwheeler ANTELOPE 1909?

Regards,
John

[greateastern]

these will give you what you need I think

[jecobin]

Hi Greatestern,

Thanks for the reply to my post.  Can you tell me whether this vessel is 100 feet, 101 feet, or 104 feet.  The figures are difficult to read on the drawings.
I tried the Internet for information about this vessel but could not find anything that actually gives her specifications.

Regards,
John

[greateastern]

the  HAMMS drawing indicated 101 feet, Jerry MacMullen's book "Paddle wheel days in California  (circa 1949) gives 160 gross tons, 100 feet, built 1910.

[jecobin]

Yes, thats exactly the problem I was having, nothing seems to be consistent.  I read something else that put her at 104 feet.  maybe I will email the Smithsonian and make a few enquires about those drawings and where the originals might be.  Might be worth a try.

[Roderick Smith]

One boat or two?  Nobody commented on the change from stern wheel to side wheel.  That would change the length?  Or is one source quoting hull length, and another over the stern wheel?
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

[derekwarner_decoy]

Must agree Roderick....the images of the side wheeler Antelope have a completely different hull design to the hull depicted as the stern wheeler Antelope


.....clearly different vessels....... .... Derek

[greateastern]

Antelope No 1 was a side wheeler and an entirely different boat.
  The drawings are at the Smithsonian but good luck with an email. You might try a physical letter. I've been waiting about 4 months for a email reply.
http://siris-archives.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?uri=full=3100001~!140285!0

I'm not trying to be cavalier about it, but even at 1:48 the diff is going to be small between 100 and 101 or even 104 which would be 1 in overall. The HAMMS drawings were made directly from the hull or what was left of it in 1939 as part of the WPA project.  They are very well done and I suspect you can't go too far wrong using them. Print accounts may be made on data that was changed during the building of the boat.

   

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I have an older catalog and this is plan set 16-70 , is 1:48 and Smithsonian says built in 1909. an old price was $35 for 7 sheets at scale 1:48. Their price has increased but I don't know by how much. I don't have the drawings--those that I posted are from another site and were provided as is by the owner of the HAMMS images.

[jecobin]

Many thanks for the address greateastern and the info about the plans.  I will drop them a line and see if I can purchase a set.  You are right about the specs and I suppose I am being a be picky.  Anyway a set of drawings from the Smithsonian will resolve it.  Many thanks again.

Regards,
John

[greateastern]

the images I posted above are the set of drawings reduced. you can enhance the contrast and probably work from them.

[Harold H. Duncan]

This of any help?

http://www.crawfordsnautical.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=82856

cheers

[jecobin]

Excellent, many thanks,

John