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Author Topic: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug  (Read 16435 times)

Offline herrmill

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New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« on: November 20, 2013, 12:23:52 PM »
Coming soon to a future issue of Model Boats.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2039544
"China is a sleeping giant. Let her sleep, for when she wakes she will shake the world." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 04:59:10 AM »
Eccleshall is to be presented as a free plan in the June issue of Model Boats (on sale 9th May 2014).

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2014, 05:51:15 PM »
Very nice semi scale tug! Now I have to order the next Model Boats issue ...  :)
A German DIY magazine offers a similar sidewheel tug: http://www.selbst.de/hobby-freizeit-artikel/modellbau/bauplan-modellbau-raddampfer-150244.html

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2014, 09:04:20 PM »
I'll look forward to this model I should get the mag some time July to August.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2014, 11:54:34 PM by DamienG »

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2014, 06:53:11 PM »
Very nice semi scale tug! Now I have to order the next Model Boats issue ...  :)
A German DIY magazine offers a similar sidewheel tug: http://www.selbst.de/hobby-freizeit-artikel/modellbau/bauplan-modellbau-raddampfer-150244.html

A nice little model a pity I don't speak German.

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2014, 07:18:30 PM »
A translation Damien........courtesy of Win7  :beer Derek
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"Paddle steamers are more than hundred years of experience in the service on our rivers. Where they appear, they provide attention and admiration. Reason enough to give you a delightful, well 90 centimeters long, to present akkugetriebenes and radio-controlled boat to the model building.

Our plan (04/2003) for the model boat contains all details, parts and mass, also of the Kajütaufbaus, the we in this article "blueprint: Modellbau - paddle-steamer" have no longer shown in the detail. Direct purchase plan >

To the instructions

Build paddle steamer

Model boat: superstructures

Model construction: Remote control

Two things are important for the sustainability of such a ship of model: the used adhesives and surface treatment. Basically we have connected wood on wood for our wheel steamer polyurethan-(PU-)LEIM. Two different materials meet, use a two-component adhesive. We had a special glue of this genus to the attachment of the wing: he is filling the gaps and gap-bridging. Simple model train craft glue is sufficient for smaller surfaces the decoration in the background. For surfaces, we have seen around us in yacht building. There is an epoxy resin sealant and the matching paints and varnishes. The so-called water line color is used usually just above the water line; It doesn't matter however in the model construction, in which a body is Yes, never more than a few hours at a time in the water.

Paddle steamer plank

Up to the Beplanken, a replica of the model boat is relatively easy. Glue and squeeze each bar individually. The first four on each page allows you to up for the curing of the glue with Staples, Terminal and forcing the formers and press together; the two clips under the Edition Board thereby prevent the whole construction gets over itself. Terminals have the advantage that they less easily drop because their Cork coated pads in weird places as forcing. Then you continue working with small nails, which you ribs to the beat. Despite careful work can prevent that cracks and gaps gape. It does not need to irritate, because everything is thoroughly primed. Above, are at the end of the planking, the ribs quite differently due to material inaccuracies are over.

Filling the model boat hull

A perfect straight line is of course important for the fun on the water. Prerequisite is that the axle of the paddle steamer is at right-angles to the fuselage. So work with angle (for squareness) and spacer block on transfer the axle hole position on the other side of the fuselage. The two-component filler for the hull mix gradually in portions according to the manufacturer on a Board of. Use a plastic spatula, because the hardened mass later only by this tool can be removed (by bending). Can cure the primed hull overnight. The ground is very hard. The loops, you should do by hand, is accordingly busy. The application of glass fiber fleece with epoxy resin is not difficult.

Trimming of the hull

The wooden construction of the trunk generate great lift, you need to counteract the weight in the fuselage of the paddle steamer, pasted directly on the bottom of the fuselage in the vicinity of Kiel. We have saw us Rod merchandise metal trading on the formers intermediate measure 20 x 10 mm and glued. Handle so that the iron does not rust, before necessarily with clear varnish. How much weight you need, depends on the structure and the technical installations, with us there were two kilograms. Try out the precise weight distribution in a test of the fully equipped steamer in the bathtub and then glue the weights.

Remote control boat

Two Steuerservos are supplied with the remote control set, only one is needed to move the rudder via thin wires. So-called steel rig from the angler need not tired it also permanently. The gear motor is controlled with a control in the direction of rotation and speed, it is connected instead of the second servo to the receiver. Together with battery and servo, we have easily accessible screwed both parts on a bracket in the deck opening. The remote control proposed by us is designed for a voltage of 7.2 volts, the gear motor is then about 60 revolutions per minute".
Derek Warner

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Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2014, 08:01:22 PM »
Thanks Derek.

greateastern

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 08:34:00 AM »
This is, according to Mr G a deviation from the Eppleton Hall into a freelance.  With no offense to Mr Guest, why not just get the drawings to EH and build the real thing? The plans are on line-free-and they may be here on PD.
here is the link to the drawings and photos
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/hh/item/ca1508/

Harold H. Duncan

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 10:44:17 AM »
With no offence to anyone, MrG's plans are for a very simplified hull form, very quick and easy to make for beginners or for anyone wanting a simple to build model, that looks the part.
Not everyone has the skills or the resourses to build accurate hulls, of any size.
So as far as I'm concerned, there is a place and need for both.
This gives each and all a choice to build which suits their circumstances and skills.
Just my two bob's worth, and works for me.
cheers
kiwi

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 05:22:25 PM »
Interesting thread granted Mr G's plans are simplified, I find them great they can be detailed as you wish with great detail or very little the hulls are simple shapes and easy to construct, personally I wouldn't build from line drawings tried a few times from drawings from a Mr Pottinger and went nuts, each to their own eventually I'll build this new one of Mr g's and probably modify it as I did with the Mr G's previous 2 paddlers.
And when a models on the water below the waterline is hidden anyway, granted he's drawing for the masses and hopefully youngsters and oldies like me with poor sight and arthritis of the hands.

Damien.

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2014, 09:37:19 PM »
....., why not just get the drawings to EH and build the real thing? The plans are on line-free-and they may be here on PD.
here is the link to the drawings and photos
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/hh/item/ca1508/

I downloaded the full stuff about one year ago, the plans are useful, although there are no coluors named. The National Parks authority sent me a photo from the EH in her original colour, I just dont know, if I can use it here in the forum. So, if someone needs it, please send a PM , I`ll react soon. Remember, the EH had an open steering stand and no machinetelegraph, she was a bell-boat. The steering stand was only closed for the journey to the US, and removed then.  The mast on the rear section also was only used for that travel and removed for the original restauration works.
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greateastern

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2014, 04:04:00 AM »
Point well taken, Kiwi, and I realize that everyone doesn't want a "museum quality model" if it is going out to the pond. on the other hand, if one looks at the collections of models that are old, in museums, the qualify is very high--Navy Board models, for example, and the availability of tools was rather limited in 1700. Yes, I've seen some lower quality models on the NMM website, but most are pretty impressive (and of course, many are made by the shipyards building the real thing , in come cases taking as long to build the model as it did to build the full size one). I also realize that people don't want to spend years building a practical working model--the enjoyment of sailing it is as much as in building.
  Damien, I have to agree with you on Pottinger"s plans, they do leave a lot out and often the accompanying photos in the accompanying articles are too dark to really use. I  often like the ships he chooses, but his are no comparison to the German or even Turkish plans I have that are expressly for modellers that are of pre-world war 1 ships. Wischmeyer, Boylayer, and Eichardt are but 3 examples where the plans are unbelievably detailed. In the end , it is a matter off choice for time and practicality and experience. You are absolutely right in that.
 I don't have the skills or tools to do a Brian King type  competition or commission model ,but one can always work toward a goal.
  Gerhardt, if the photo was done by a government photographer, there is no copyright on government documents so probably not a problem. The "people" paid for the work, so it is ours--not the "Crown's".

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2014, 06:32:34 AM »
  Gerhardt, if the photo was done by a government photographer, there is no copyright on government documents so probably not a problem. The "people" paid for the work, so it is ours--not the "Crown's".

Hi Dave
Copyrights are very different in our countries, as far as I know, the photo was made by a government photographer, so here it is.

Hi Andreas
Great model!! :bravo :bravo :bravo

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greateastern

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Re: New Glynn Guest Paddle Tug
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2014, 10:09:47 AM »
Gerhard, that actually looks like a scan of a photo in a book or magazine.The dot screen is somewhat evident in the water area. Anyway, I think this is OK under fair use  clause as you are not selling it or republishing for profit as your own, and you did indicate source. .Thanks. hadn't seen that before.

 

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