Questions for Roderick Smith

[rayman]

Hi Roderick, in a post somewhere you talk of the wheels as fitted to "Black Shag" are different and worth a look. can you please steer me in the right direction.Could you possibly post pics here.? There were three side-wheelers bought by Cadel and taken across to N.Z. "Gundagai"--"Wakool" -- and "Sturt" I have details on all three and a pic somewhere of Sturt possibly up the Darling at Wilcannia. I hope shortly to be going down to N.S.W. to research the steam "drohgers" as used on the Myall lakes, there were possibly 7 of them. Some had a normall stern wheel and others were split as the Murray "Kookaburra" regards ray

[Roderick Smith]

I did write up Black Shag in an APAM thread in Research, but didn't mention paddlewheels.
Perhaps somebody else did?

I searched on 'Black Shag' in the search function.  That found several references, but not mine, which is at
www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2566.105, on page 8

It is for sale again, or the last sale notice was never withdrawn after the sale:
www.murrayriver.com.au/trader/private/blackshag/default.htm

I checked with Parsons 'Ships of the inland rivers': there was no older Black Shag, which may have had unusual paddles.

The only prospect which I see for being different would be fabrication from aluminium: that was the material with which the constructor was familiar, and has been used extensively in his boats.

Now that I have found my earlier post, I'll try to add some complementary photos in a place where they can be found.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

[rayman]

Thanks for that Roderick, some of those threads are getting a little tangled now.
 and for Derrick Decoy, the "NEUS" engine referred to in another post is or was commonly refered to as a "german Perkins" though I don't think there was a connection. They were quite common in ACCO trucks and  some lines of IH tractors. not rare, just another engine. "DEUTZ as in Klockner-Humbold-Deutz is a horse of a different colour. They range from a pizzly little 3-1/2 hp toy to 15,000 hp. I was in a German ship "Hydra" 2 x 7.000 hp 10 cyl in line engines. We would run Melbourne - Port Moresby on one engine and return on the other. engine rebuilds was work in progress. regards ray

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's....according to Parsons 'Ships of the inland rivers': there was no older Black Shag

Well true...but on page 113 we see the PS Nil Desperandum.............& the text notes that she was also called 'Balck Swan' & she has an image of the balck swan on her wheel house...................just wondering if the name shag/swan could be a mix up?.................Derek

[Roderick Smith]

Aha, I did comment about the shape of the floats, and the number in the water.  However, I don't think that there was anything special about them.  That was simply a topic of the week in a construction forum, and here was another example to view.  I have added a second photo to the original post at
www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2566.msg11530#msg11530
It shows the floats more clearly: they seem to be conventional wooden ones.  Relevant to the construction thread, there are two in the water at any instant.

I'll add a bookmark post to the APAM thread to give a quick entry.

I'll have a couple more prints somewhere to find and to scan, but they are not on the hard drive at this minute.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor