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Author Topic: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build  (Read 16374 times)

Jimmybondi

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009, 12:16:58 AM »
Hi Derek,

yes - the reversing gear is the same like on locos

today i finished the feed pumps



(better resolution: http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/Pumpen.jpg)

next i will weld the wheels - i got a pair: laser cutted parts in stainless steel.
next is to learn TIG-welding them :-) .-(

Frank
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Jimmybondi

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 01:08:28 AM »
Hi

yesterday i bended some pipes for the pumps - but i don't have enough material.
So i've to wait until the order arrived.

but waiting sounds like "do nothing" - OHHH NONO :-)

i assembled and finished the first wheel
(i've ordered only one pair of wheels because its
not cheap: stainless steel in 1,5mm laser cutted)



(HiRes: http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/Paddle.jpg)

welding 16 paddles is not very hard, BUT:
clean them a job for idiots :-)
- hot fingers during grinding the face side of paddles
- mill the great "spikes" without a measurement (milling by view)
- ...

The screws are only "test-fit" because i'm awaiting some material like hex-steel in stainless

Frank
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Red_Hamish

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 05:10:10 AM »
Hello there, that is a beautiful paddle wheel. Hang the pprice with ones that look like that anyone would be proud to be sailing the model

cheers

Jim
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Offline Talisman

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 06:35:40 AM »
Absolutely superb!
I loved the Engine and the Wheels will look great to.
Cant wait to see the hull they go in  ;D
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Jimmybondi

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2009, 06:10:05 AM »
Hi,

today a small update

at the end of a build everytime the same happens:

a lot of work and less to see :-(
96 screws turned in stainless steel, mounted and assembled the wheel - next stage finished

and the feed pump in place.
Tested with a motor and got 8bar pressure - thats fine for me

also the slide valves mounted and adjusted - now the engine would like to work: when turning the crank shaft the cylinder begins to breath
(a quietly *ploooop* *zosch* on every stroke :-) )



tomorrow a the steam pipes planned - and maybe a first run

Frank

PS:
some pictures - but to big to publish here (2MB every picture)

http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/12_09_2009_A_.jpg
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/12_09_2009_B_.jpg
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Offline Eddy Matthews

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2009, 06:44:52 AM »
I just love your work Frank, it really is superb!

Now you need to find a boat that you can fit it in without hiding it away under superstucture! It would be a sin to hide all that lovely machinery!

Regards
Eddy
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Offline derekwarner_decoy

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2009, 09:11:23 AM »
Hi PD's....... :kewlpics Frank....& the speed of construction amazing....just a few questions or comments

I think you have substituted hex head S/S bolts over the temporary Phillips head screws :hammer
I cannot see any provision for lubrication on the cross heads or big ends
Are the cross head pads brass/bronze?
What is the total build weight?......1800 gms

To second the question & comment from Eddy   ???...have you a hull planned for the engine or is she to be a display model engine only?...... :coffee....Derek
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 06:43:00 PM by derekwarner_decoy »
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Offline mjt60a

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2009, 08:15:41 PM »
Looks perfect, fantastic piece of work  ;D ;D ;D
I couldn't help but notice that the feathering control gear is inside with the shaft running through it, are those the wheels designed for the 'director class' tug?

*like this - http://www.myhobbystore.com/2125/Colyer-Forceful-Paddle-MM1293.html - it's the only one I ever saw with the centre of the feathering gear on the hull and not the sponson*
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 09:55:10 PM by mjt60a »
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Offline Talisman

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2009, 04:18:40 AM »
Quote from: Eddy Matthews on September 13, 2009, 06:44:52 AM
Now you need to find a boat that you can fit it in without hiding it away under superstucture! It would be a sin to hide all that lovely machinery!

Regards
Eddy
Anybody 'blown' a glass hull before... That be an interesting build  ;D

Quote from: mjt60a on September 13, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
Looks perfect, fantastic piece of work  ;D ;D ;D
Agreed!

Quote from: mjt60a on September 13, 2009, 08:15:41 PM
I couldn't help but notice that the feathering control gear is inside with the shaft running through it, are those the wheels designed for the 'director class' tug?

*like this - http://www.myhobbystore.com/2125/Colyer-Forceful-Paddle-MM1293.html - it's the only one I ever saw with the centre of the feathering gear on the hull and not the sponson*
Interesting mechanism all the same.
I found this site last night while thinking about a future project..

 http://www.richardkell.co.uk/paddleWheelComponents.html
Paddle wheel components

http://www.richardkell.co.uk/paddleWheelComponents.html
Marine steam engine

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Jimmybondi

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 02:39:23 AM »
hi PDs and all other

IT'S WORKING !

video1 shows at 0,6 (and a short moment 1,5atm)
video2 at 3atm - sounds like bike :-)

http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/Video1.avi
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/Video2.avi


Frank
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Offline ancoaster78

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2009, 08:47:40 AM »
Wow.
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Offline Eddy Matthews

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2009, 09:03:31 AM »
Quote from: ancoaster78 on September 15, 2009, 08:47:40 AM
Wow.

That one word sums it up perfectly Andy!

A magnificent job Frank! The bit that really surprised me was the feedpump..... It looks like a tiny dribble of water that would never feed a boiler, and then you see the pressure that it manages to generate - Amazing!

Regards
Eddy
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Offline ancoaster78

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2009, 06:16:27 PM »
Now that the intitial wow has worn off, and I have recovered my thoughts, I will say a little more!

What surprised me most, was the speed of construction. Such dedication to make something happen, as beautifully done as that is a genuine shock to me! I have more questions that I feel its reasonable to ask!

I very much intent to learn the nessecary skills, milling, lathing and casting to build engines, it is possibly the part of the model that interests me most, and in my mind after reading all I have it is doable, as you have proved. But how to make the leap from sitting thinking about it to actually having a completed engine in front of me is a little confusing! What would you suggest the best way to get started is? I havent done any lathe or milling work since school, and I left there in 1994....Help!

Thank you so much for shareing this build, it has reignited the desire to build my own, maybe with upcoming redundancy there will be time to actually do it as well?!

Have you decided what type of boat to put it in? Very much looking forward to seeing it properly in action :-)

Cheers!



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Offline kno3

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 07:12:49 PM »
Hi, nice to see your engine here too, in more detail. I'd love to have one of these as I'm planning to build a paddle-wheel ship too.
Please tell me where did you buy the paddle-wheels from and how much were they?
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Offline steamboatmodel

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Re: Diagonal sidewheeler engine build
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 01:50:01 AM »
I really enjoyed watching it run nice and slow.
Regards,
Gerald
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