Yet another Waverley build - LNER 1947

[djcf]

The lower moulding, between the cream and black, didn't go right round the hull, it stopped in the region of the two small rectangular windows, near the stern, before the galley portholes.
There seems to be no brown line here either, the cream butts up against the black, a slight step is visible in pictures because of this.
Clark

[Mercury]

Thanks Clark.

Currently fitting the subdecks. Plan is to fit them, fill and smooth the edges, fit the mouldings, spray the hull, fit widows - not sure if I will sure clear resin or perspex yet - and then add varnished ply for the deck.

[Walter Snowdon]

A couple of years ago I was at a plastic modeling show and one of the stands was selling metre lengths of moulding produced by EVERGREEN. tHEY MAKE SEVERAL SIZES AND THEY WERE VERY CHEAP! I will keep a lookout at IPMS shows and if I find a stockist I will post details. Regards, Walter.

[Mercury]

I've now fitted the subdecks and purchased the half round strip - rather painful at £18 for a few pieces of plastic strip but I needed six packets to get around the boat twice.

So as the weather is looking up it's time to go out and get the paint. Any help / suggestions here much appreciated. I intend to use car spray paints and humbrol enamels.

So my guesses at 1947 LNER colours:

Underbody - India Red - Red primer?
Waterline - Thin White
Hull - Black
Upperworks - Biscuit / Stone - i.e. off white or white with a very slight touch of brown. Not Cream.
Waterways - India Red or silver?
Deck shelters - Scumbled
Hull lining - Yellow and brown.
Paddle boxes black with yellow lining?

I have a couple of questions:

1 - Was there a separate boot topping below the waterline?

2 - I seem to remember from somewhere that the gold lining around the hull and sponsons was yellow in 1947?

3 - What colour was the open deck area on the sponson?

Very grateful for any help here.

Mercury

[djcf]

Hi Richard,
The last few inches of hull above the top moulding, also including the plated areas at the bow (spirket plates?) were white in 1947, not the stoney colour. I have a very grainy colour video clip of her in that year, but it shows this. I don't know why they don't paint these areas white now.

The sponson deck areas - I did a lot of searching for info for my model, (mid 50s livery though), didn't find out much, and painted them black. Certainly on Jeanie Deans after the war these areas were planked.

The lining certainly went to yellow on all ships in the 50s before it disapeared...not sure what colour the LNER used in 1947.

regards
Clark

[Walter Snowdon]

Hi Clark. I have a big problem with trying  to match fullsize colours with scale models. Remember, your model is the same as seeing the fullsize at a distance of about 200yards. All light colours tend to lighten and fade with distance. Dark colours tend to flatten and lose their intensity. Look at military models , model soldiers, trains etc from a couple of feet away and perfectly matched colours will always look darker than illustrations of the full size.
So, you pays your money and takes your choice. When I used to make military models competitively I always did rather well in competitions for appeerance as opposed to three dimensional oil pasintings. Regards, Walter.

[Mercury]

Hull painting is going reasonably well although my first attempt at the White didn't work. I used halfords ford ivory which was, yes too ivory! I then tried my local car parts store which has a range of car plan paints. They have 25 different shades of White all displayed in a neat row so that you can see the differences well. I've remasked the White and will respray it tonight.

Had too great sails on Waverley during the western isles sojourn. Fort William to Iona which ended up being a round mull cruise with a quick stop at the mishnish in Tobermory for a pint as it was too rough to land at the sacred isle and a very special trip round Rassay from Kyle of Lochalsh on the day of the royal wedding. This was one of the nicest trips I've had inboard- perfect scenery, warm sunny day and a really nice company onboard. Even the crew appeared to relax.

[Mercury]

Just realised that the spelling / grammar of my last post left something to be desired. No I've not had five pints but I'm using my wife's iPad and haven't quite got used to the text recognition function.

That's my excuse anyway!!!!

[djcf]

Looking forward to seeing the painted hull, Richard. What are you using for the lining/waterline? I have some gold self adhesive lining that I will be using (can't remember the manufacturer will check later) but I know several colours are available.

Clark

[Mercury]

I generally use trimline tape and I'm planning to use that for the White and yellow. Currently painting the brown half round strip.

[Mercury]

Some pictures attached of progress with the painting. One side is fine but I couldn't get the windows on the port side aft to work with the waterline so I will have to re-do them and respray this side. I've also started glassing in the windows which can just be seen.

[waverleyjamesieboy]

Looking really good very realistic, hope mine will look as good when painted. Is that a rudder I can see in the last pic?  Just out of curiosity hope you don't mind me asking but how wide is your hull?

[Mercury]

Thanks for the positive comment. The hull is 7.5"wide. It is the rudder but I've increased it in size from the scale rudder to improve the turning circle.

[djcf]

As Jamesie says, nice paint job, did you use halfords sprays Richard? A pity about the ports, I know they are difficult to mark out due to the flair of the hull in that area. At least it is just one side, maybe you will get away with just respraying the lower portion of the hull?

Clark

[waverleyjamesieboy]

Thanks for that, I was working on mine but wasn't happy with the space between my superstructures (front observation lounge etc) and the hull edge. Measured my plan and it was 7" wide, got out the calculate the real boat is 30'.2 divided it by 48 and yes 7.5". I knew my plan wasn't long enough but forgot to check the breadth . With my hull constructed I can't fix it so will just have to live with it. Sorry for going slightly away from your build but just thought I would explain my strange question!! I will post more about this on my build blog. I hope you get the back fixed with out to much bother as the rest looks so good, hope you can keep it as a localised repair as would be a shame to have to repaint the rest.