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Author Topic: P.S. Waverley --- My Build  (Read 160496 times)

Offline Tug--Kenny

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #225 on: October 27, 2008, 01:19:37 AM »
I believe waverley did in fact use both funnels when first built, the boilers were fitted with the 'furnaces' at opposite ends so the smoke from them used one funnel each. When the boilers were replaced, the new ones were fitted so the smoke from both went into a kind of upside down Y-shape duct and into the front funnel only. I don't know offhand when this was but since this model has four lifeboats.... could it be from that time?

This is the version that I'm aiming for. I knew the 'two' versus 'one' smoke outlet would start some inquiries.  ;)  Mine is the version that left the shipyard.

The forward funnel has large holes for the majority of the smoke, whilst the rear funnel has two small holes for subsidiary smoke and hence a smaller amount trickles out. I could cap it off but the extra smoke then coming out of the front funnel makes her look like a steam train.  :D

I shall go along with finite detail on these gangways, Talisman, as it should add something to the deck area. Those dreaded stanchions are being left to the end because of these extra fittings going in. Already it has paid off because I can now see where there will be gaps around the life canisters and lifeboats..

My other though is on the Sponsons. I figure there must be a gate type of arrangement on the outside edge to allow the gangways to extend to the dock. Was this hinged and swung inwards, perhaps?

I was working on the lifeboat rigging around the side, today. I fancy using either a white or a red rope around the sides, in loops. I'll try both and see which looks the best. Unfortunately, I will not be fitting propellers, as these are too small to appreciate.  ::) and where do you stop.

 



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Offline Walter Snowdon

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #226 on: October 27, 2008, 01:37:06 AM »
Regarding the sponson rails. the upper wooden rail is hinged left and right and both fold back along the line of the fixed wooden rails.  the two gates open inwards on hinges from the central staunchion to which they are pinned. the staunchion is removable (hole in deck edge) and can be lifted out when two gangways are in use. Hope this makes sense! the wooden rail has brass castings on both ends, one is the hinge, the point where they both meet is a tennon joint so they lock together. Regards, walter.
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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #227 on: October 27, 2008, 01:45:07 AM »

Luvly details.

I appreciate that, Walter. Thank you, it will be done.

ken
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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #228 on: October 27, 2008, 02:18:55 AM »
Indeed, white smoke! What had they for firing the boilers? qhite coal?

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #229 on: October 27, 2008, 08:34:40 AM »
these are the gates on the port side, behind the landing platform. the 'hinged' ends are where there are an extra supporting rod at an angle from below the rail capping to the deck...
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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #230 on: October 27, 2008, 08:38:46 AM »
...incidentally, looks like I was wrong about having three gangways, this was taken on the same cruise as the previous picture and we see the wider gangway between the inner and outer railings, this is in addition to the one on the deck and one on each landing platform - so there's at least four and maybe five - this may not have been the case in the period in which your model is set though!
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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #231 on: October 27, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
3 is normal for the paddler I think . .

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #232 on: October 27, 2008, 08:48:13 PM »
Indeed, white smoke! What had they for firing the boilers? White coal?

Andreas

I'd rather not have dirty Smoke go all over the model, so I went for a Steam generator, which is nice fluffy white stuff.   ;)

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #233 on: October 27, 2008, 08:50:22 PM »
Hi, it's difficult to say
- this may not have been the case in the period in which your model is set though!

I wondered that myself as we have four life boats and life rafts did she ever have all at the same time? I know there was a time when she had 3 lifeboats and liferafts. During that period i dont think she had the two gold stripes down the hull.

Also, just to confuse matters more, depending on what period she is modeled on she may also have had boards to allow cars to board.

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #234 on: October 27, 2008, 09:03:56 PM »
...incidentally, looks like I was wrong about having three gangways, this was taken on the same cruise as the previous picture and we see the wider gangway between the inner and outer railings, this is in addition to the one on the deck and one on each landing platform - so there's at least four and maybe five - this may not have been the case in the period in which your model is set though!

Thanks MJt. They are great. I've started on the construction but realised I had two sides which were unsupported and not very mechanically secure,  mmmmph!!  I shall redesign it again in something a bit sturdier. Also, I was going for a stepped walkway, rather than your correction of a flat one with slats on it, so that will be incorporated as well. Thanks for that. 

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #235 on: October 27, 2008, 09:06:55 PM »
Hi, it's difficult to say
- this may not have been the case in the period in which your model is set though!

I wondered that myself as we have four life boats and life rafts did she ever have all at the same time? I know there was a time when she had 3 lifeboats and liferafts. During that period i dont think she had the two gold stripes down the hull.

Also, just to confuse matters more, depending on what period she is modeled on she may also have had boards to allow cars to board.

Devils in the detail ..........


Great problems to be sorted. If I make all these extras, I can always remove them for competitions and judging. (I should get that far eh !!). I thought of 'bending the details' to go for a look that will appeal to visitors at the lake, rather the judging panel. To this end, I have some surplus lifebelts which have been attached to the upper cabin walls, and look the part. I'm surprised the builders never thought of this.  ;)

I'm just wondering about what make of TV to put in the lounge. After all, it's supposed to be around 1975. :whistle



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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #236 on: October 27, 2008, 09:18:49 PM »

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I'm just wondering about what make of TV to put in the lounge. After all, it's supposed to be around 1975. :whistle


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Oh dear Ken,
1974 Cal Mac funnels, 4 lifeboats no liferafts, and white superstructure
1975 - LNER funnels,  also, and this is the bit that your not going to like, superstructure white
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from memory and could be wrong she stayed the same till the 90's


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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #237 on: October 27, 2008, 09:27:57 PM »
When i was young my Dad's model boat club put on a show in the Waverly. They sailed up to Tighnabruich and sailed the model boats next to the pier. Perhaps you could have a model boat show in the lounge  ;D

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Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #238 on: October 27, 2008, 09:50:12 PM »
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Oh dear Ken,
1974 Cal Mac funnels, 4 lifeboats no liferafts, and white superstructure
1975 - LNER funnels,  also, and this is the bit that your not going to like, superstructure white
:(

from memory and could be wrong she stayed the same till the 90's




Amazing detail ...........  That makes mine at December 31st 1974, when they'd had too much to drink and didn't know what to change next.    :beer

I'll see if I've got any white paint left.  ;)


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« Reply #239 on: October 28, 2008, 05:59:39 AM »
                         Lifeboats

I have gone with grey rope in the end, as other colours look a bit garish. (232)  I have glued the rope in place and it has, unfortunately, damaged some of the paintwork. I then had to repair this and its come out reasonably well.  

I then got on with making three gangways. I have used plastic tubes and angles and fitted tiny stepping bars made from matchsticks. Two are 17mm wide and one is wider, for wheelchairs. I had thought about making a wheelchair but decided that life was too short. (230) (231)

I don't know yet whether to paint this structure or leave it  'as is'  because it doesn't look too bad in white.

Had half a day today as it was getting quite cold out in the shed.  :coffee


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