Padleducks logo Paddleducks name

Welcome to Paddleducks..... The home of paddle steamer modelling enthusiasts from around the world.



+-

Main Menu

Home
About Us
Forum
Photo Gallery
Links
Contact Us

UserBox

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

Search



Advanced Search

Author Topic: P.S. Waverley --- My Build  (Read 160510 times)

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #180 on: September 09, 2008, 05:01:25 AM »

I agree with that. I thought it looked a lot of black. No worries, because I will be rubbing it down a bit and re painting anyway, as I want a better surface.


I can't move the paddle height again as the motor and drive system are all sorted. I think it's close enough for the waterline, but will be interested in seeing how many blades strike the water, when under way.

Thanks for the advice

ken
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Offline derekwarner_decoy

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2627
  • Gender: Male
  • Wollongong - Australia
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #181 on: September 10, 2008, 08:23:07 PM »
mmmm PD's......Ken ...I know you asked for comments from early on in the build  ...& these have been given..... :gathering in good faith....

From your latest snaps & comment from Mick mtj60a......I must agree that the paddle depth immersion appears to be out of scale or position.....

When the plans & the hull & the wheels are from the same supplier something appears not KOSHA......just stick with it  :crash :hammer...& accept you may have to modify the paddle axis drive line height ......you will get it sorted..............

Oh BTW...have you completed a bath [test tank] flotation/stability test yet?...................Derek
« Last Edit: September 10, 2008, 08:58:06 PM by derekwarner_decoy »
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

Daryl

  • Guest
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #182 on: September 10, 2008, 11:16:12 PM »
Just a thought Ken, have you compaired the size of the paddlewheels to the one's fitted on Waverley to see if they are the correct diameter for 1/48 scale. They could be a tad undersize?

Daryl

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2008, 09:07:06 PM »
Hi PD's

The paddle wheels were supplied by Waverley models as a kit and were built to a cost of £210.

There is not a great deal I can do about their diameter now as costs have exceeded £800 so far and she still doesn't have her deck fitted.

I have dropped the shaft as advised previously to what I now consider too far, so will not be dropping it any further. It may be the result of a deeper hull than the original ship. This was designed to increase stability and will not show up when she is afloat.

I give you the picture of her present position where it shows four blades free of the box. (190)

The real ship's paddle position is shown in  (191) where you might observe the wheel does not protrude very deep from the box, and only shows three and a half blades clear of the edge.

I have just finished re sanding the whole paint job down again and now need another £15 worth of paint to respray it.

As to the float test, This is waiting for the portholes to be completed before I can immerse her in water, and I dare say, this will be the biggest test of my life.  The previous float test (with hole blocking tape!) proved she rode a little high. (41)

Thank you all for your help, so far. Just working on the radar spinning around by itself at the moment, and that's a few unpredicted problems I can tell you !!

ken


« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 07:56:21 PM by Tug--Kenny »
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Daryl

  • Guest
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #184 on: September 11, 2008, 09:56:11 PM »
Hi Ken,

Your'e doing a grand job and this must be one of the most riviting build threads we have had on here for a long time, well done for keeping us informed of your'e progress.

Good luck with the tank test.

I don't think  4 paddles in view will present to much of a problem but I did notice that your set has 9 blades but Waverley has only 8 per wheel, ( see link below). That could explain why you have more blades on show than picture 191. Have you tried them to see how the feathering is?

http://www.psps.freeserve.co.uk/rebuild/000124/descr.htm

Have you tried Action, they do a very nice little radar roatation device.
http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/

Offline derekwarner_decoy

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2627
  • Gender: Male
  • Wollongong - Australia
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #185 on: September 11, 2008, 11:40:44 PM »
Hi PD's....& as Ken says .....

'to the float test, This is waiting for the portholes to be completed before I can immerse her in water, and I dare say, this will be the biggest test of my life'

Ken...we understand how frustrating these glitches can be.....[I have been building my PS Decoy since  :ranting Y2000}.....so I would be inclined to postpone the hull sand & respray...& devote time to the completion of the portholes & a wet water dunking   :beer...to confirm the latest flotation to wheel immersion

Remember the old trick.....but... :shhh...get the bathroom scales & gently force down on these on the hull to get the correct draft & record the EFFORT ...as shown in the scale dial...... :hehe.................Derek

« Last Edit: September 11, 2008, 11:44:55 PM by derekwarner_decoy »
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

Offline mjt60a

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1698
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #186 on: September 12, 2008, 04:49:25 AM »
Hmm, I think looking at it, the diameter and position look to be about right (without seeing the actual model, that is...) I reckon raising the waterline should do it. The real ship does appear very low in the water, especially in some photos, and the portholes are near enough to the waterline that the swell behind the paddles covers over the few closest behind them...
The model is looking great by the way, I'm impressed with the lifeboat davits especially
Posted by Mick.
(.....gonna need a bigger boat.....)

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #187 on: September 12, 2008, 06:35:04 AM »
Hi PD's

Daryl. Thank you for the encouragement, I am enjoying myself and it looks like it shows.  ;D   The feathering action is the bees knees (as they say). The blades enter the water vertically and pull out vertically in a smooth way, so hopefully, should propel the old girl along smoothly. I spoke to AcTion Electronics about their radar motor  and it's only £6.50, so I've ordered one, in case mine falls to bits.

Derek. Got your message to late, so destruction of the surface completed.  :whistle    I have previously done a float test and determined the weight to overcome buoyancy, (ie ... sinking !!) and the bathroom scales are at hand for your little test, which will done at first opportunity.

MJT,  I should imagine the old girl had a fuller than full compliment of passengers in your picture. ;)   Those portholes are not actually below the waterline, but close enough to give trouble. I shall ensure they are well sealed inside. Once it's built, it's too late then eh !!  Glad you like the davits. I plan to separate them from their block and mount them to the deck. I still have to rig up the ropes for them and make little propellers.

on with the build story ...............


                          Modifications started.

Today I completed the rub down and smoothed the surface. (192) (193)

It was then off to Halfords again, for some more tins of paint. We now have a new stock of Red, Black, & White. The Sun then came out for the first time in a week, so it was out in garden and start the spray process. It’s looking better already and I’m quite pleased. Pictures to follow.

While the paint was drying I tarted up the deck fittings (194) and got on with inventing the radar drive system.

To this end, I have purchased a rotating party light from the ‘Pound store’ and torn it apart for the gear mechanism. (195)

This little device has a 3 volt motor and a few gears and rotates at a very realistic speed for a radome. I have glued in some blocks to support it under the cabin roof and left then drying for the night. We’ll try it out in the morning.


 

« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 05:17:33 AM by Eddy Matthews »
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #188 on: September 13, 2008, 04:46:40 AM »
                 Radar construction

Today I fitted the motor unit inside the top cabin and ran a shaft up through to the roof.

I have built a voltage reduction circuit and can feed just over 3 volts to it, which speeds it up a bit. (I like to keep the boat's power supply at 12 volts). Mind you, the motor is an unknown quality, so it might burn out.  I've got two more for a pound each, so it's worth the gamble.   ;)    It took 4.5 volts OK, but I reduced it for safety.   8)

 I've severely cut back the excess plastic and acquired a smaller footprint, now I need detailed drawings of the dome itself. .... as I only have a bit of sticky tape to show it rotating.   8)  ...  anybody ??

Here are some pictures of the installation. (196) (197)

Then it was back to the paint job in hand. Further coats were added and now it only needs the final Black band in the centre section. Should be a riot when it comes to masking off both Top & Bottom lines. (198)



« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 05:18:10 AM by Eddy Matthews »
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Offline Talisman

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 951
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #189 on: September 13, 2008, 08:13:48 PM »
Good thread, especially of interest to me as i slowly put my model of the Waverly together.
great inspiration. keep it coming

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #190 on: September 14, 2008, 07:14:57 AM »
Thank you Talisman. I like you pictures. Well done, as I know how difficult this model is.

                     Hull Paint finished

Yippee!!  Weve got there in the end. The tape came off and didnt pull any paint, and its come out with the best finish I could have wished for. Im really pleased with surface now. Perhaps I can get on with those portholes at last.

Here are the latest pictures, which includes my Radar unit, which works a treat. (199) (200) (201)

 Ive taken movies to add to the You-Tube film that Im making, but havent posted these yet.


« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 07:58:27 PM by Tug--Kenny »
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Offline derekwarner_decoy

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2627
  • Gender: Male
  • Wollongong - Australia
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #191 on: September 14, 2008, 11:42:46 AM »
OK PD's.....I think it is great as a 58YO......... :whistle:hehe when I read ..... "Yippee!!  We’ve got there in the end" ........from a 66YO member......"onya" Ken......... :beer.................Derek
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

Offline Talisman

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 951
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #192 on: September 14, 2008, 05:06:01 PM »
Looking good Ken

Two jobs i hate windows and seats so i have come up with alternative ways

Seats cut cnc

Windows moulded in clear resin


a couple of pics


Look forward to seeing the youtube film :)

Offline Tug--Kenny

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 634
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #193 on: September 18, 2008, 04:33:37 AM »
Nice job, Talisman. Production line eh!!



                   Windows time

Today I fitted the portholes around the sides of the ship. (202) (203).The insides were glazed to the hull for water integrity, even though the portholes had their own glass, these were done as well. I used strips of clear plastic in sheet form and to completely seal the edges, I shall epoxy around the edge when that lot is dry.

I then settled down with a cup of tea and the radio and fitted all the lifelines to the bench seats. A long job and slightly boring, but the effect seems worth it. (204) I shall be tiding up the edges when this glue is dry, also

I then set about glazing the cabins. These were fitted out with square windows along the sides, and frames are being fitted around the front curves.  I shall now be picking superglue from my fingers all night!!  (205)


« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 05:19:33 AM by Eddy Matthews »
Despite the high cost of living,
                    it still remains popular.

Offline Eddy Matthews

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5042
  • Gender: Male
Re: P.S. Waverley --- My Build
« Reply #194 on: September 18, 2008, 04:52:53 AM »
Looking really good Ken - The pain with Waverley, all those damned windows!! ;)

I hope you realise you only have three working days left before Paddler Day  :hehe

Regards
Eddy
~ Never, ever, argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience ~

 

Powered by EzPortal