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Author Topic: HMS Aristocrat/Talisman  (Read 9958 times)

Nordrand

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« on: November 06, 2006, 09:03:37 PM »
Hi, I am looking for some help here. I have long since retired, living in Norway. My interest about paddle ships is twofold one because I served on HMS Aristocrat from 1943 to 1945, and secondaly my interest in model making.
Please contact me in order to assist.
Regards
Nordrand

Offline derekwarner_decoy

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HMS Aristocrat/Talisman
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 09:56:19 PM »
Welcome Nordrand to our Paddle vessel WEB site....PD's

....as you note, HMS Aristocrat was formally the PS Talisman, a Google WEB search on PS Talisman will help you here

Naturally when you have questions, please post them & someone  from the world wide group of paddle people will try & assist

regards...... Derek in Australia  .... do you say 'SKOL' in Norway  :?:  :beer
Derek Warner

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Offline Eddy Matthews

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 10:07:54 PM »
Good to have you with us Nordrand,

One of our other members, Walter Snowdon, is looking for information on HMS Aristocrat. He has a fibreglass hull of the Talisman that he wants to build as the Aristocrat, but I know he's having difficulty finding out what armaments were fitted and where they were positioned on the ship.... perhaps you could help him with those details?

I'm sure that in return he will be able to help you with other areas of the ship to help with your research...
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 10:27:42 PM »
Oh one more thing Nordrand, I don't know if your aware of it, but if your interested in building a model of Talisman/Aristocrat, one of the UK manufacturers produce a 1:48 scale fibreglass hull and plans for the Talisman.

You can find details on their website: http://freespace.virgin.net/metcalf.mouldings/catalogue.htm
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Offline Eddy Matthews

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 10:35:31 PM »
Another thing I forgot to mention!!

Model Boats magazine did a superb article on building the Talisman based on the fibreglass hull from Metcalf Mouldings mentioned above. You can download a complete copy of it from our "Downloads" section...

http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/forum/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=73
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Nordrand

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 12:29:06 AM »
Thanks for the warm welcome, and information. I would be happy to give Walter Snowdon the details he needs of armaments, I have some small drawings of the ship layout, including gun placements. This is from a small booklet Called "A Paddler At War"A complete history of her active sevice.

Regards
Lawrence.

Offline Walter Snowdon

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 06:22:48 AM »
Hi Nordrand, a very warm welcome from me. Its a privelage to have a member who actualy served on paddlers during WW2 and from my point one who served on HMS ARISTOCRAT For the unenitiated, she almost certainly had more active service time than any regular warship in the Royal Navy and certainly more service than any other navies ship! I have so many questions, I am opening a new strand in the research section of Paddleducks. Once again, a very warm welcome toyou Nordrand.  Walter.
Blessed are the "cracked" -for they let in the light for the rest of us.

Offline Bob Golder

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2006, 06:45:38 AM »
Walter, Where did HMS SARACEN come from?  I thought Nordrand had referred to HMS ARISTOCRAT.  Did I miss something :?
Cheers from Bob Golder

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2006, 06:51:30 AM »
Hello from me Nordrand and a very hearty welcome to Paddleducks :D .  I have the honour of meeting both Eddy and Walter on a more or less weekly basis at Darlington & District Model Boat Club where eddy keeps us in check. Walter makes the hot sandwiches and I make sure the subscriptions are paid :wink:   I'm sure you'll enjoy our site.
Cheers from Bob Golder

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2006, 07:05:58 AM »
Sorry Bob and all, A lapse on my part.  I am busy re-reading Douglas Reemans book HMS SARACEN and the name kind of got stuck in the grey matter which passes for (an overused) brain!!!. Regards, Walter.
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Nordrand

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 11:33:02 PM »
I am very pleased that HMS Aristocrat is held in such high esteem, wish it were so elsewhere.
When in France visiting the Dday museum at Arromanches I found no mention of her even though she played an important part in the building of Mullburry harbour.
I would like to mention that a model of her exist in a museum in
she was built by the engieers as a farewell gift to Lieut. Cmdr. Lambert DSC when he was replaced in July 1943. During the war she sailed 46,583 miles without ever breaking down, an she rode out the force 10-9 gale on the Normandy Coast for 72 hours. Some Paddler.
Nordrand

Nordrand

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2006, 01:51:03 AM »
I left out the name of Museum, too much whiskey last Night. Should read exists in the Guildhall museum in Queensborough Kent.
Nordrand.

Offline AlistairD

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2006, 10:19:54 AM »
She has generally been despised by Clyde Steamer  enthusiasts because she was not steam-powered and therefore not a true paddle  steamer. She was known at one stage as the "Clockwork mouse".
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I am very pleased that HMS Aristocrat is held in such    high esteem, wish it were so elsewhere.
When in France visiting the Dday    museum at Arromanches I found no mention of her even though she played an    important part in the building of Mullburry harbour.
I would like to    mention that a model of her exist in a museum in
she was built by the    engieers as a farewell gift to Lieut. Cmdr. Lambert DSC when he was replaced    in July 1943. During the war she sailed 46,583 miles without ever breaking    down, an she rode out the force 10-9 gale on the Normandy Coast for 72 hours.    Some Paddler.
Nordrand



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