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Author Topic: Firth of Forth ferry  (Read 7860 times)

Offline Eddy Matthews

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Firth of Forth ferry
« on: July 03, 2006, 09:14:06 PM »
I'm trying to find photographs of one of the ferries that operated on the Firth of Forth - The boat I'm interested in is called "Sir William Wallace". Can anyone help with photographs?

I've done a quick search on the net, but haven't managed to find much...

The photograph below is one of her sister ships called the "Queen Margaret". Sir William Wallace was very similar in appearance, but was a larger vessel.
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Offline Eddy Matthews

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 09:22:33 PM »
I forgot to mention, "Sir William Wallace" was built in 1956 by William Denny and was a diesel electric powered paddler....
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2006, 04:39:25 AM »
Eddy,go to the Kinswear Castle website where Jonh Megoran has featured the forth paddle ferries in a monthly pictures entry.  Look in the archived monthlys
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2006, 05:04:56 AM »
Thanks Bob, I've already visited John Megorans site, but unfortunately the photos are poor quality and don't show the details I'm looking for :-(
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Offline Walter Snowdon

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STEAMERS OF THE FORTH. Vol 1 ferry crossings. by ian Brodie.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 12:04:44 AM »
Eddy,I have checked the above book- dont bother, there are few photos and they are poorly printed. I will keep looking. regards, Walter.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 12:39:02 AM »
Thanks Walter - Anything you can find would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2006, 08:20:03 AM »
I am just catching up after coming back from  holiday, and realise you may already have a photo, but is this any  use
 http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=11780
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   From:    Eddy Matthews (research@paddleducks.co.uk)
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   Subject: RE: Firth of Forth ferry
   

   
Thanks Walter - Anything you can find would be greatly    appreciated.


     
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 08:29:40 AM »
I am just catching up after coming back from  holiday, and realise you may already have a photo, but is this any  use
 http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=11780
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 There is a small plan in "The Denny List" Part IV, published  by the Nationals Maritime Museum, and the museum will have the original  plans.
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 "Steamers of the Forth, Volume 1" by Ian Brodie, published  last year by Stenlake Publishing has one, not very good, photo.
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 There was a booklet entitled "Queensferry passage" published  by the West Lothian History and Amenity Society in 1976, which has an on board  photo. A search on www.abebooks.com might  yield a copy
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   Subject: RE: Firth of Forth ferry
   

   
Thanks Walter - Anything you can find would be greatly    appreciated.


     
Regards
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Offline Eddy Matthews

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2006, 08:52:20 AM »
Thanks Alistair,

I had all the links and books you suggested, and I already have a set of drawings from the NMM, but they leave a lot of areas which are unclear :-(

Sadly they don't give any details of the paddlewheels for example, other that their diameter and width, there are no details of what they looked like.

I'd also like to get more details/photos of the turntable on the main deck, and the loading ramps...

it surprises me that a paddler which was only built in 1956 should apparently have so few photos, and the few that are available are such poor quality, but I suppose finding that info is part of the joy of modelling one of these boats....
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2006, 09:09:47 PM »
Eddy

I've got the local library getting me a copy of 'The Queensferry Passage ' book and will have a dig through it when it turns up. Have to say I'm not overly hopeful of anything new though. I do agree that it's quite staggering that no one seems to have any photos of their own of this ferry. When I travelled on it there seemed to be as many cameras about as passengers. Where have all those pictures gone? Mine were taken on a Brownie 127 and they've long since disappeared - probably discarded by my late mother in one of her tidying frenzies! Maybe everyone else's ended up the same way.

Andrew

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2006, 05:18:41 AM »
 
 
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  it surprises me that a    paddler which was only built in 1956 should apparently have so few photos, and    the few that are available are such poor quality, but I suppose finding that    info is part of the joy of modelling one of these boats....


Well, Eddy, the enthusiasts around then probably didn't think much of    these paddlers
   1) they were diesel and not steam
   2) they were car ferries, and not tradaditionally    designed
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   Maybe best if you contact somebody from the Firth of Forth branch of    the WSS
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   Alistair
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