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Author Topic: Burner Requirements in Australia ???????????????????????????  (Read 22660 times)

thewharfonline

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2005, 09:17:50 PM »
"Clear as the Murray River so far...!!!  "

Can I tell you guys NEVER drink Murray Water...I mean it. As a crew member on board the Pevensey at Echuca for a week I was made to pour fanta and coffee into the river, not to mention excess bark and leaves.

It's not safe to drink the water and that is why there is a nice big lot of fresh water in the Galley of the pev!

Now to international aid...i hate it, I hate it even more when they ring you up at home. My friend had the right idea...shes 15 and she goes when a telemarketer rang her "Oh gosh JEnny, jenny don't touch the stove OH GOSH" and hung up the phone.

I feel your pain Derek

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2005, 07:21:48 PM »
Hi PD’s – Sandy – I know you have told me not to light the gas boiler via the top of the boiler chimney, but why do the French do it this way all things being equal?  
   
Is it all of those frogs & snails w garlic they eat that make the difference? - please read the notation supplied by my engine builder  
   
“put in warm” [I assume they are talking about water, but can’t be too sure] – then goes on “to take fire the burner by the chimney opening progressively sluices her of the gas-fired tank” – then even ?? – “to open gently sluices her on the boiler as the cock…….”  
   
To equate a gender role here the manufacturer does note “stealing him manually……..the time that this one grows warm”  
   
So from this it appears that a boiler of the feminine gender where as the engine is masculine?  - goodness PD’s  - I am not sure that you will ever see this message  
   
Sandy – do you have any comment re the lighting of my boiler via the two new 2.0 mm diameter holes that I will drill approx 25 mm down from the total height for my ACS vertical boiler of 11 ½” + 41 mm chimney top [sorry the 2.0 mm holes are to support the chimney by wire ties from swaying in a stiff breeze] and are not to be confused with any form of oil injection to make smoke!!!!!!  
   
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2005, 09:50:16 PM »
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Hi PD’s – Sandy – I know you have told me not to light the gas boiler via the top of the boiler chimney, but why do the French do it this way all things being equal?  
   
Is it all of those frogs & snails w garlic they eat that make the difference? - please read the notation supplied by my engine builder  
   
“put in warm” [I assume they are talking about water, but can’t be too sure] – then goes on “to take fire the burner by the chimney opening progressively sluices her of the gas-fired tank” – then even ?? – “to open gently sluices her on the boiler as the cock…….”  
   
To equate a gender role here the manufacturer does note “stealing him manually……..the time that this one grows warm”  
   
So from this it appears that a boiler of the feminine gender where as the engine is masculine?  - goodness PD’s  - I am not sure that you will ever see this message  
   
Sandy – do you have any comment re the lighting of my boiler via the two new 2.0 mm diameter holes that I will drill approx 25 mm down from the total height for my ACS vertical boiler of 11 ½” + 41 mm chimney top [sorry the 2.0 mm holes are to support the chimney by wire ties from swaying in a stiff breeze] and are not to be confused with any form of oil injection to make smoke!!!!!!  
   
regards Derek  
   
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 :hmph  :nose  :shock:  :shock:

Hi PD's....Derek....I am aware that some folk, including the SEX MAD French, choose to court disaster by lighting their boilers from the funnel top.
BY all means go ahead and try it for yourself. :twisted: ..but don't blame me if it blows up. :shoot  :rant  :oops ......The problem is that the burner has a ring of supplementary air holes, around the flue fitting, and Butane/Propane gas, being heavier than air (even in the southern hemisphere) will leak from these and into your hull, before it has reached the top of your funnel (some 12 " above).
Not only that, but a flue full of gas (a considerable amount) would ignite with a pretty big bang. :oops ......I think you would be better advised to remove the burner as instructed.....The French are also renowned for their ignorance (intolerance) of safety issues.  :nah  :nah  :nose

 :(  :(  :(  :sob  :ohno

The funnel of your boiler fits into a socket on top of the boiler and should not, therefore, require any further stabilization...are you not fitting an outer (Scale) funnel, so that the boiler uptake becomes a liner, and thus will be shielded from the wind?, or perhaps your planning on sailing in the Southern Ocean???? :roll:  :roll:  :?:  :?:, however, I am aware that the majority of  paddlers did have wire stays on their funnels so from an aesthetic point of view these should be OK.......Not sure about 2 holes versus warranty though..... :twisted:  :twisted:  :evil:  :evil:  :D  :D  :D

Keep us all posted on progress... :D  :D   :music  :music  :clap2  :yeah

Regards to all.

Sandy

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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2005, 10:19:01 PM »
Hi PD's  - ice cube cool  : :)  & thanks Sandy - but I had no bloody intention of doing a JMC boiler lighting method against your instruction & advice [bloody not being a spelling error, but with the intent to convey a catrosposhy if when the  :boom boiler blew up which I will try & not to happen] etc

Another question if I may, I have read & accepted the ACS warranty terms but these seem to be written for customers up a little higher than the equator - so if in the unforseen event that I do any problem I shall get my ANZAC mate from accross the ditch & make a visit to see you :gather - Derek
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2005, 12:54:06 AM »
Quote from: "derekwarner_decoy"
Hi PD's  - ice cube cool  : :)  & thanks Sandy - but I had no bloody intention of doing a JMC boiler lighting method against your instruction & advice [bloody not being a spelling error, but with the intent to convey a catrosposhy if when the  :boom boiler blew up which I will try & not to happen] etc

Another question if I may, I have read & accepted the ACS warranty terms but these seem to be written for customers up a little higher than the equator - so if in the unforseen event that I do any problem I shall get my ANZAC mate from accross the ditch & make a visit to see you :gather - Derek


 :great  :great  :terrific

Now that would be cool.....You could park (moor) almost outside and enjoy a glass of good Scottish firewater, whilst I soldered up all orrifices in your boiler.....that should stop any problems   :hehe  :hehe  :music

No worries mate...your warranty is good wherever you may be.

 :thinking  :thinking ....What am I saying allready.....

regards.

Sandy.

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2005, 12:58:08 AM »
Never mind his boiler Sandy, just solder up all his orrifices! - That will stop him from verbally submitting a warranty claim, and any letters you just ignore saying you never received them - Problem solved  :sorry
~ Never, ever, argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience ~

sandy_ACS

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2005, 04:15:50 AM »
:twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :)  :D  :D

Don't be  :sorry  Eddy, I never thought of that.

I could add...I will not acknowledge any e-mails either....claiming that they were blocked by my firewall or lost, in the same place the date info goes too...wherever that is.

Keep Smiling :angel  :shhh  :crash  :D  :D  :hehe  :hehe  :nose

regards

Sandy

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2005, 08:15:59 PM »
It is no good using that excuse about firewalls blocking emails Sandy, half the damm suppliers in the U.K. have already used that one!
"Every time I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be some bastard with a train trying to run me down!"

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2005, 08:31:57 PM »
Hi PD's & thanks Sandy for the welcome to visit but must ask a few questions first

1) When my ANZAC mate Tony & I are paddling up the creek towards >>
Cairnbaan
Lochgilphead
Argyll & Bute
UK

2) do we turn left at the first fork to PORT, or continue a few clicks [paddle, paddle, paddle until we see the lights of the PUB @ Cairnbaan on the STDB side & then turn right?

3) if this is the case could you please confirm mooring costs/landing costs, as Tony in his new vocation is really good at cost minimisation stratogicies etc

BBBBBBBB - Sorry possible delay - cannot make contact with Tony [assumed he is out training his 1/10 crew for a Friday night session on the DRINK] - so will have to reconfirm the trip [paddle to Cainbaan] to a latter time - Derek :beer

oh BTW - being a little bit like a 28+1/2 /96 = [approximately one 1/4] Irish, tis best not to use WORD SPELL - makes the text seem more original  :angel
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2005, 11:58:13 PM »
Quote from: "kiwimodeller"
It is no good using that excuse about firewalls blocking emails Sandy, half the damm suppliers in the U.K. have already used that one!


 :rant  :hmph  :twisted:

Drat, and double Drat,...Ok Ian, I'll have to think of sumpfing else... :thinking  :nose

I suppose it's a good thing I don't sell half Dams....I believe ze Germans have a couple though....Mohnne, Edder......trouble is it's hard to find Lancasters with bouncy things these days...... :hehe  :hehe  :music

Keep happy

Sandy

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2005, 12:21:30 AM »
Quote from: "derekwarner_decoy"
Hi PD's & thanks Sandy for the welcome to visit but must ask a few questions first

1) When my ANZAC mate Tony & I are paddling up the creek towards >>
Cairnbaan
Lochgilphead
Argyll & Bute
UK

2) do we turn left at the first fork to PORT, or continue a few clicks [paddle, paddle, paddle until we see the lights of the PUB @ Cairnbaan on the STDB side & then turn right?

3) if this is the case could you please confirm mooring costs/landing costs, as Tony in his new vocation is really good at cost minimisation stratogicies etc

BBBBBBBB - Sorry possible delay - cannot make contact with Tony [assumed he is out training his 1/10 crew for a Friday night session on the DRINK] - so will have to reconfirm the trip [paddle to Cainbaan] to a latter time - Derek :beer

oh BTW - being a little bit like a 28+1/2 /96 = [approximately one 1/4] Irish, tis best not to use WORD SPELL - makes the text seem more original  :angel


 :nah  :nose

The Waverley tried taking the first fork a couple of years ago and ended up stranded on a mud/sand bank so....
 :shoot  :oops  :beer ...skipper must have had to many....

No... you take the second fork to PORT and enter the CRINAN CANAL....
Cost is around £100 - £150.....Follow this past the pub at CAIRNBAAN, on
the STB side....you can try turning right but they dont like fishing boats (even paddlers) in the lounge bar (or any other bar for that matter, the landlord is an ex PURSER from the QE2 so you can imagine...)

When you get to lock number 8 you will be right outside my place.....(I won't be in....but) morrings are available...but will cost you £25.00/metre per hour.

Maximum length of vessel to be no greater than 88ft (26.82 mtr) with max draught of 2.89 mtr( 9ft 6")...a draught of good ale would go down well at this point....max beam is 6.09 mtr (20 ft)...all volumes/lengths etc courtesy of Highland waterways.

 :twisted:  :twisted:
Landing costs.........it depends on what you have with you to bribe the locals with.....:towel  :vacat  :oops  :hehe  :music .....100 tonnes of smelly DORY won't get you far... :hehe  :hehe

Keep smilliinnggg

Drat...the check smeller has just griven uup

sandy

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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2005, 09:51:57 AM »
1) When my ANZAC mate Tony & I are paddling up the creek
 Â 
 I poresume you mean the Crinan canal here
 Â 
 towards >>
Cairnbaan
Lochgilphead
Argyll &  Bute
UK

2) do we turn left at the first fork to PORT, or continue a  few clicks [paddle, paddle, paddle until we see the lights of the PUB @  Cairnbaan on the STDB side & then turn right?

3) if this is the case  could you please confirm mooring costs/landing costs, as Tony in his new  vocation is really good at cost minimisation stratogicies etc
 Â 
 You will need to stop before you hit the lock  gates, and to allow the road bridge to be opened
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Paisley
Scotland

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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2005, 10:53:05 PM »
Hi PD's & thanks Allistar - I simply had plotted a course from Botany Bay here in OZ, then to paddle power ZIP over to KIWI land & collect Tony & a few hearty 1/10 boiler room attendents the set paddle to WEST SCOTLAND

Tony reakons his boy scouts compass should be all that is required to navigate the 20,000 odd Km to Scotland, but just in case l have 'almed' the vessel with a small  :boom

This was acquired from a church jumble sale last weekend, but alas no SAT/NAV system was on offer on the same day - any thoughts that I may have mis-appropriated a $16M CIWS [Phalax] 2000 rounds per minute anti missle gattling gun from the Department of Defence [Navy] - whilst in the employ of the said Department are baseless :evil: :evil:  :?:  :?: according to the statement made to my Lawyer with my defence counsel
 :gather

One little question here is that neither Sandy nor yourself have explained is that after we take the second turn to port after first fork in the creek ++and if there is intense FOG or MIST" are there any warning bells :music ?? in the cahnnel or is really spelt canal :?: in Scotland - Derek

PPS - just so I can plan the travel arrangements could you please advise the BISTRO breakfast, lunch & dinner hours @ the Pub  overlooking PS Waverley when she crusises in throu the mist --:vacat  :towel  :vacat - & just to clarify things, thats Tony on the left!!!!!!!!!!
Derek Warner

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2005, 02:27:17 AM »
Quote from: "AlistairD"
1) When my ANZAC mate Tony & I are paddling up the creek
 Â 
 I poresume you mean the Crinan canal here
 Â 
 towards >>
Cairnbaan
Lochgilphead
Argyll &  Bute
UK

2) do we turn left at the first fork to PORT, or continue a  few clicks [paddle, paddle, paddle until we see the lights of the PUB @  Cairnbaan on the STDB side & then turn right?

3) if this is the case  could you please confirm mooring costs/landing costs, as Tony in his new  vocation is really good at cost minimisation stratogicies etc
 Â 
 You will need to stop before you hit the lock  gates, and to allow the road bridge to be opened
 Â 
 Alistair


 :great  :great  :clap

See you Alistair....thank the good whisky gods for giving me a fellow countryman to help repel the Ozzie invasion fleet....As Eddy said some posts ago..it's tough trying to keep ahead of them on my own.....

It is obvious that you know the area...but lets not tell them all the secrets....YET... :hehe  :hehe  :twisted:

I'm not sure what Derek thinks a canal is, let alone how to spell it,  but lets keep it to ourselves for now.

I won't tell him, if you don't,  that Ozzie, or Nz boy scout compasses reverse the direction after they get to the equater...they could be there all year...going round in ever decreasing circles...finally dissapearing up their own exhaust pipes........

Thanks again Alistair for the moral support... :D  :D  :D

Sandy

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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2005, 09:49:03 AM »
 
 
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Hi PD's & thanks Allistar - I simply had plotted a    course from Botany Bay here in OZ, then to paddle power ZIP over to KIWI land    & collect Tony & a few hearty 1/10 boiler room attendents the set    paddle to WEST SCOTLAND

Tony reakons his boy scouts compass should be    all that is required to navigate the 20,000 odd Km to Scotland, but just in    case l have 'almed' the vessel with a small    
Copying Skiblander are we then?  
The 149-year old Norwegian paddle steamer has two sets of    small cannon at the bow. Th website states    
Canon salutes: On board    the Skibladner there are four small saluting cannons. For special occasions    you can have them fired at any stage on the journey. This can be requested    through the Skibladner office or on board during the    trip. Skibladner will whistle 3 minutes prior to the salute. The price is NOK    150,- per salute.  
Alistair
Alistair Deayton
Paisley
Scotland

 

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