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General => Chat & Off Topic Stuff => Topic started by: steamboatmodel on April 10, 2008, 12:52:06 AM
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Why do you think you have to register to get a water tank! You're right, making a buck.
However, we are still a commonwealth so maybe mother england could supply us with some help.
It might not be too far out of the question.
Don't expect to get the help for nothing though - We have 17.5% VAT (purchase tax) on everything we buy, petrol/diesel is taxed at over 80% (currently over £5 - $13 US per gallon)..... Come to the glorious UK and get ripped off by the government!!
Why do you think so many brits are leaving the country?
I rest my case m'lud....
Hi Eddy you quote the price of petrol (gas) as over $13 US per gallon, In Canada our Gas (Gasoline) is now sold by the Liter currently $1.10 CAN, How is it marked at the Pumps?
Regards,
Gerald
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Gerald,
Cost of diesel (I have a diesel car) is currently 116.9p per litre - Our pumps are priced in litres, though I still stick to calculating cost per gallon, as that's my generation ;)
So 116.9 x 4.54 (to get cost per UK gallon) = £5.31 (approx)
Damned expensive!!! :(
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Hi Eddy,
I just checked and Diesel is going for $113.9 to $118.8 per liter in Ontario. With the Pound going for $2.00 CAN it makes our fuel prices about half yours, but remember before you pack to immigrate what our distances between places are.
Regards,
Gerald
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Hello all, well I've gone and put some diesel into my 2.0L car tonight at a whopping £1.27.9/L only put in £20's worth which is enough for three retuurn trips to work. Will have to get an even more frugal diesel I think. At present I achieve a really good 46 mpg which does actually equate to 1 return trip to the office.
cheers
Jim
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AUD1.56 per litre
GBP is 0.47, so £0.73
EUR is 0.59, so €0.92
CAD is 0.95, so $1.48
USD is 0.97, so $1.45
Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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Hello all, well it gets a lot worse rather quickly!! Went to the filling station yesterday to fill the car after leaving the three return trips form Wednesday night. The price has now shot thrpough to an astronomical £1.32.9 / Litre which equates to an unbelievable £ 6.04 / Imp Gallon. Absolutely ridiculous. If I were to fill my cars' tank from empty it would cost me £90 . Oh well it is only money, this'll definitely cut down the beer and modelling money now.
BTW thanks to Roderick for giving the worldwide comparrisons
Jim
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From other ferry and transport groups, there have been many reports of operators converting to biodiesel or to recycled oils in diesel engines. In Paddleducks, I have mentioned MV (former SWPV) Maranoa running on oil recycled from fast-food cooking. Perhaps you could concoct your own from potato peelings (there are lots of websites devoted to making biodiesel).
Of course, on the Shetlands, cost may not be important if distances are not great.
Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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Hello all, Roderick what a great picture you loaded there. It probably took as long as driving from the ferry to the lighthouse ;D I was talking with the finance director of the ferry company who serves the North Isles from Mainland Scotland and he was telling me that their fleet of three 110M & 126M '97 built ferries are all to undergo some modifications to allow the propulsion fuel to be changed to a heavier type while leaving the MGO to run the Generators for the on-board services. Based on the manifold is a heater to allow the heavier fuel to be atomised to enhance its burn qualities the conversions will cost about £30,000 per ship but the cost v's benefit will see savings in a matter of months. The service speed is reduced by 1 1/2 knots but this will be hardly noticeable on the 12 hour journey as they can in reality do it in 9 1/2 hours when the need arises.
On your point of distance travelled while here on the islands it is a valid point. The object we have to come to terms with is how often do you really need to make the journey. The nearest Supermarket is 25 miles away as is the Pharmacy and many other essential service providers. Since we moved here my diary has never been more utilised and integrated with my wifes' diary. We sit down every two weeks and make sure there isn't going to be any un-necessary duplication of travel arrangements.
cheers
jim
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Hello all. This is my first post a pity its a miserable one. I work at a bio diesel plant it hasn't sold a litre and has shut down. Its sister plant which does produce has also bit the dust.The reason the raw materials actually cost more than the refined article in the uk, as unlike other countries it is not subsidised to make it a cheaper alternative where as France, Sweden and the U.S do help out. They moan about green house effect, carbon poisoning etc but the're not prepared to lose out on taxes in the U.K.hence we pay through the nose in the form of vat. As for it destroying rain forests true, although jatrophe? is used more than palm oil and it is not edible anyway also low grade tallow is an alternative and it works. Still here we don't stick together any more if we all boycotted one petrol station for a day a week and bought elsewhere on that day they would soon knock 2p off or boycotted one producer in particular even better then the following week another.Pie in the sky dreaming though i suppose it never was or will be a perfect world . Sorry to be so morose its a good job our boats are ozone friendly or we'd have Benny Hill type park keepers trying to levy the steamers mid lake.
Regards to everyone promise my next post will be happier K. alias Casper
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Hello casper, welcome to the forum. It really is a shame that the bio-diesel is a non-starter in the UK. As you say the tax pound is the only thinhg the politicians (of any colour) are looking for to pay the exorbitant and profligate amonts of our money without any real regard to worth. :offtopic Down off the soapbox now. As i said welcome and we look forward to assisting you with your paddle aspirations.
cheers
Jim
p.s. the price has gone up to £1.32.9 / L here this week. It really isn't on!
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Hi
Gasoline(Petrol) is $120.9/L, Diesel 131.9/L The part that really is going to heart is when the price of Diesel is passed on to the end users (us) from all the truckers. Diesel has increased in price over the last couple of years from about 30% the price of regular gas to its current above gas prices. As for Bio-Diesel until it is made from non food crops I think it will create major problems.
Regards,
Gerald
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Hi all. I filled up my Diesel Skoda Octavia at the local Asda store serve yourself pumps today and the cost was £115.9 per litre (liter to some of you foreigners) ;D. I did get a discount of 2p per litre as I paid with my Asda Mastercard, a worthwhile reason for having that card which is used for little else (yes I am Scottish and yes I don't like spending :'( so I did rejoice over the discount ) :great
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At £115.9 per litre for diesel, perhaps you could run the vehicle on whisky/whiskey?
A good bottle shouldn't cost more than £30 for 750 mL.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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Hi PD's & :bravo Roderick.....maybe they don't have a symbol in UK for pence/pentz/pents....you know those little round coin things type that add up & make up a POUND :whistle
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;D I noticed that too, but I guessed he meant 115.9p :D
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Yes :-[ OK :-[ I did mean 115.9p. Too busy thinking of our Waverley trip I guess ;D
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Jim (Red Hamish)
it doesn't make sense what you have to pay for your fuel. with Sullom Voe just around the corner.
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Hello all, I know eaxctly what you mean Sandy. :( The fact that the Oil Terminal operated by BP on behalf of a consortium of oil companies imports oil from thre major North Sea oilfields is all the more galling! Have a look at the following links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullom_Voe
Co-ordinates http://maps.msn.co.uk/(mbnaewin30thcxux1quhp0rb)/map.aspx?lats1=60.4497&lons1=-1.3012&alts1=14®n1=1
Then the government wonders why the islanders are revolting ;D
cheers
Jim
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I received this and had to pass it on.
Regards,
Gerald
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Here in China with the government price controls, I pay 5.12rmb/l or $0.74/l, about 1/3rd the cost my fellow Americans are having fork over. Regular unleaded is the same price, while 97 high test runs 5.40rmb/l. How long that is going to last is everyone's question as the diesel lines are long at the pump with SinoPec rationing.
Chuck
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I live in Tetbury and at the start of the last petrol problem we had 2 garages, Garage A kept prices at the norm while Garage B ramped them up to exorbitant levels but when the former one actually ran out, people just had to pay the high prices. But here's the killer - when the strike was over, evrybody in Tetbury remembered about Garage B and stopped going there and within 6 months he went out of business! People Power. So during this current petrol problem Garage A (the only one now) put his prices up and guess what? they have stayed up! He doesn't seem to have learned a lesson so we residents of Tetbury are planning to teach him the lesson we taught his one time rival! :hammer :ranting :yeahbaby
Now if we all did this...
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The Problem is "Garage A (the only one now) put his prices up and guess what?" He has you by the short and curlies, unless there is someone else opening a Garage. If he is part of a chain or has to buy his gas from them, he may have no choice about setting the price. In my youth I worked at a number of Gas Stations and the price change was usually phoned in to you either in the evening or night shift, at one point I was covering a shift for a Friend at another Station (one of our company's compeditors) and I received a call from their dispatcher to change the price and it was the same person who had phoned me at the Station I normally worked at, so much for no price fixing!
Regards,
Gerald
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When this topic first started at the beginning of April, diesel was 116.9 pence per litre locally, thats £5.30 per UK gallon - Now (end of June) our local garage is up to 134.9 pence per litre (£6.12 per UK gallon).
So, less than three months and a staggering 16% increase in the cost of fuel - But my income hasn't gone up! :(
Of course, the cost of fuel effects almost everything we buy, so everything goes up in price..... When will the UK government realise that this cannot go on? They have (I believe) one of the highest rates of fuel duty in the world, and every litre at the pump nets the government approx 80% in tax!
Okay, rant over.....
Eddy
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Filled up my 70 litre tank with just over 68 litres @ £ 1:42.9 / litre. The metre displaying the cost in £ & p was getting frighteningly close to hitting the £ 100 mark and I could not bring myself to ccept the £ 100 fill was here for a family car. :( :( :( a very sad reality. I could have done it but I realised that once that threshold is crossed the value of the coins in your pocket is almost worthless.
When I first did the £100 + fill it was in one of our trucks, I went and asked the attendant if there was a faster pump to use next time when I came, the answer "no it would only frighten you" was very candid.
a sadly dis-illusioned
Jim
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No wonder the truckers in the UK are up in arms at the cost of fuel in the UK Jim..... Consider an articulated tractor unit with a 200 gallon fuel tank - That'll be £1200 for your diesel sir!! :sobbing
Eddy
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For latest fuel price info see www.petrolprices.com Handy if you want to try and save a bit each fill - I work in Bristol but live in Cardiff so where I fuel depends on where its cheapest - have saved over 5p per litre recently by using the site. Peanuts I know but every little helps . . .
I've also just bought a Fiat 500 1.3 diesel thats brought my fuel costs down, I can manage 70mpg doing 60mph. 8) There's a downside to it though - it limits the size model boat you can have!
I've heard a lot of talk lately of companies raising the price per mile they pay employees, usually 40p I know of some who have gone up as high as 60p now after employees refused to use their own transport for company business.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi PD's....with OZ being so large & sparcely populated ......products have to be transported long distances.....every day I see the fleet of B Double semi trailers loaded with finished steel products destined for Melbourne...yes approx 1000 Km from Port Kembla
The 600 HP prime movers have four 250 litre diesel tanks & @ $1.86AUD per litre = $1860.00 :shoot - frightening isn't it
Having said this...our OZ fuel costs are still less expensive that most of Europe by 30%..... :shhh