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Charlotte Dundas

Started by ajg141, October 03, 2005, 05:58:32 AM

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ajg141

Couldn't resist posting this picture of a scratch built model of 'Charlotte Dundas' that the builder brought to the Edinburgh Model Boat Club end of season regatta today. Sailed beautifully despite the gales.

Andrew

Eddy Matthews

A lovely looking model Andy - More details please....

Who built it, what size/scale is it, is it steam powered?
~ Never, ever, argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience ~

mjt60a

It is indeed an excelent model, I just saw some more pics here - http://www.scale-models.co.uk/t1853-charlotte-dundas.html
Posted by Mick.
(.....gonna need a bigger boat.....)

kiwimodeller

Simplicity such as this I love! Does anyone know where to find the plans?
"Every time I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be some bastard with a train trying to run me down!"

Alan Pollock

Quote from: Eddy MatthewsA lovely looking model Andy - More details please....

Who built it, what size/scale is it, is it steam powered?

Hi I'm Alan Pollock and I built the model of Charlotte Dundas posted by Andy.  I built it from information which Falkirk museum hold on the boat. It was originally built in Grangemouth in 1803 and no real plans of the boat exist - only sketches which all vary in the arrangement of the boiler/engine.  She is electrically powered - I originally thought of trying to build a steam engine however my limited skill in turning combined with the feeling that a slow running single cylinder double acting engine would stick at TDC without a very heavy flywheel built into the paddle.
She is 40inches long by 11 inches beam, built to a scale of about 1:17.
The original was probably a converted canal barge so the hull of the model is basically just a rectangular plywood box with a double 'keel' attached at the stern between which the paddle runs and a rounded bit at the bow attached to the box. Because of the hull shape the displacement is about 35 lbs - that's why she is so stable in the water. She took about three years on/off to build as I kept modifying my original ideas and adding on bits as they occurred to me. I do have an outline drawing of the boat, done after it was finally completed (in Autocad format 182Kb) which I would e-mail to you if you (or anybody else) want it.

Alan

Eddy Matthews

Hi Alan,

Welcome to our little group - The Charlotte Dundas is indeed a credit to you, she looks lovely on the water, and is certainly an unusual subject to model.

Could you post some more photos of the model to show the detail more clearly?

I'd certainly like a copy of the drawings if possible - If you could send them to admin@paddleducks.co.uk I'd be very grateful.
~ Never, ever, argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience ~

steamboatmodel

Welcome Alan,
She is a very fine looking model, could you possibly post the plans on paddleducks,

regards,
Gerald
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors--and miss. Lazarus Long

ajg141

Some further Charlotte Dundas pics taken at a local model exhibition in Edinburgh today. Regrettably Alan was not able to be present but we had a visitor who turned out to be a descendant of Symington who built the original engines! To say he was fascinated in this model is to understate things.

Andrew

Stu Kerrn Sr

Quote from: Alan Pollock
Hi I'm Alan Pollock and I built the model of Charlotte Dundas posted by Andy.  I built it from information which Falkirk museum hold on the boat. It was originally built in Grangemouth in 1803 and no real plans of the boat exist - only sketches which all vary in the arrangement of the boiler/engine.  She is electrically powered - I originally thought of trying to build a steam engine however my limited skill in turning combined with the feeling that a slow running single cylinder double acting engine would stick at TDC without a very heavy flywheel built into the paddle.
She is 40inches long by 11 inches beam, built to a scale of about 1:17.
The original was probably a converted canal barge so the hull of the model is basically just a rectangular plywood box with a double 'keel' attached at the stern between which the paddle runs and a rounded bit at the bow attached to the box. Because of the hull shape the displacement is about 35 lbs - that's why she is so stable in the water. She took about three years on/off to build as I kept modifying my original ideas and adding on bits as they occurred to me. I do have an outline drawing of the boat, done after it was finally completed (in Autocad format 182Kb) which I would e-mail to you if you (or anybody else) want it.

Alan
Alan I built this Clyde Puffer from the drawings inside the cover of a book.I would really like a sketch of the steam engine. I would like to have the steam engine move but not work. What does it take to open Autocad format? The Puffer is 13 inches long.

Alan Pollock

Hi Stu - I like your little puffer, very fond of them , they were built and ran on the Forth & Clyde Canal very close to where I live.  Not sure what you want regarding the engine - is it a diagram of the Charlotte Dundas engine or a puffer engine?

Alan

Stu Kerrn Sr

Quote from: Alan PollockHi Stu - I like your little puffer, very fond of them , they were built and ran on the Forth & Clyde Canal very close to where I live.  Not sure what you want regarding the engine - is it a diagram of the Charlotte Dundas engine or a puffer engine?

Alan
It doesn't have to be the exact one but I would like a photo or drawing of an engine the Charlotte Dundas may have had. I love Clyde Puffers, this is my second model, both scratch built. A Scottish site has the build of this on on it's web page
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robert.mcmanus/plans.htm

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