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Author Topic: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)  (Read 277 times)

Offline Roderick Smith

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SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« on: March 09, 2021, 09:00:48 AM »
I can't find an existing thread to which to attach this.  I'm not sure how it got to my computer.  Normally I include the source in the file name.
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2021, 11:31:40 AM »
The lengths and sizes of the timbers are a little mystifying?....best guess of say 3' and 4' long planks, then 8" x 10" x 3' long blocks?

The timber species doesn't appear to be a rough sawn hard wood, too smooth, uniform [not bent/bowed] & lighter in colour?  :whistle

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« Last Edit: March 09, 2021, 11:34:07 AM by derekwarner_decoy »
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2021, 05:40:55 PM »
I'll take a guess & say the wood pile of pieces is the boiler fuel?

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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2021, 09:29:46 PM »
Hi Roderick. Could the timber piles be for making boxes?. If you look at the piles of crates they are about the same shape and size. Regards, Walter
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2021, 06:44:04 AM »
Yes Walter....maybe my 3" is a little oversize :nono , and maybe they made box's from thick timber

I think box timber [or the like] is the correct answer  :clap

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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2021, 05:30:35 PM »
Any idea what those boxes are for? Fish maybe or fruit/veggy?

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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2021, 09:25:21 AM »
Well, we have quantities of short sawn timber packs that could certainly be destined to be nailed together into storage/transport box's

The question of for what goods remains unknown, however the box's would I think have been assembled at a location close to the source of the product

My earliest memory of bulk vegetables being transported and displayed in Vegetable Co-operative, were in robust woven cane baskets.......

Every Australian home garage in the 50's & 60's would have a few wooden Banana box's used as storage containers.....many a task in the garage or garden was with Kids sitting on Banana box's & splinters in your backside

Freash fish from the trawlers was also landed in slightly smaller sized robust woven cane baskets........when displayed at the Fish Co-op on beds of ice behind glass trays??

Derek

PS...the woven cane basket below is listed as 60cm x 70cm [2' x 2 1/4'] ...so are about the shape & size from my memory
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2021, 03:07:30 PM »
Reading more........when this snap was taken [1909?], Australia was producing canned Fruit........

courtesy of Google......

"In late 1892 Scottish immigrant George T Proudfoot started the Mildura Fruit
Preserving Company (MFPC). In a villa site in San Mateo Avenue, Mildura,
MFPC assembled a canning works from the most modern appliances
available. The plant was capable to producing 15 hundredweights (just over
50kg) of canned fruit a day, along with 15 hundredweights of jam"


So, revised next best guess is what appears to be assembled wooden box [with printed text on each box] close by the steamer were box's of canned fruit [Mildura area], the tied slats of wooden timbers in the foreground & to the right are for the assembly of wooden box's for the same or similar usage??

It is well documented, that Paddlers transported produce from inner lands and centres to Railheads for rail transportation to Cities [Melbourne] in this case 

Derek
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2021, 05:42:24 PM »
That sounds very plausible!

I liked the details of the baskets too...these look just like the traditional ones used in North Sea fishing ports, like Whitby, in the 19c. See: http://www.sutcliffe-gallery.co.uk/photo_3200321.html

and: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/photograph-by-frank-meadow-sutcliffe-of-women-sorting-the-news-photo/90760989
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2021, 06:12:10 PM »
I don't Mr Google is too familiar with good old Imperial weights and measures and, in any event, the production of 50kg of tinned fruit and 50kg of jam per day doesn't seem very much.

15 cwt (or hundredweights as written above) to us oldies is what it says - 15 cwt or of a ton!

For others 15 cwt is roughly the same as 763kg, not 50kg!

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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2021, 11:34:23 PM »
Well Cracker, I have absolute faith in Mr Google as being the ultimate source of information to we Humble folk.......just a pitty some of the 'learned' writing the posts get some units  :porkies in that vein

In fairness, I believe our Members   :gathering were interested in the contents in the preserves tins of fruit in the wooden box's

Derek
« Last Edit: April 12, 2021, 08:48:23 PM by derekwarner_decoy »
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Re: SWPS Corowa (Murray River, Australia)
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2021, 05:06:53 PM »
Hi folks= my guess is still boxes. In the late forties early fifties I lived on a farm/ market garden  and I remember lots of tinned goods - fruit etc- coming from the commonwealth and spain in wooden boxes. I think the reasoning was that wooden boxes were strong to withstand the manual loading and unloading from ships and lorries etc on their long journeys. As a boy I found this box timber to be of good quality and PERFECT for model making and fretwork! Remember, sea trips were long and slow  and there was no containers or bulk carrier trains and lorries. Regards, Walter.
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