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Ilhan Gokcay:
Dear friends,

I have some original drawings of a steam paddle ship. The vessel is a passenger ferry paddle steamer. There is a point on the drawings which I have diffuculties to visualise as there are not sufficient info. It's about a gangway on the deck.
On the drawings, there is a gangway shown on the deck crossing midships aft/front the paddleboxes.
I'm trying to find out, how does it look like? Is it a simple second (higher) planking on the wood deck or ?
The only cross section view does not tell much but brings up one more questions i.e. "is there a wood planking around the engine room?"

Thanks again in advance for your opinions. 

derekwarner_decoy:
These are interesting questions Ilhran.....

1. The Drawing may have a file name of ''Deck Gangway 1, 2, 3 & 4", however I suggest this is only the chosen name saved, as you see they are detailed sectional Drawings of the Vessel and do include dimensional detail of the main deck timbers,and snapshots of lower or Tween Deck planking

2. It is acknowledged text reference is made to ''For Detail of Gangway see Separate Plan', however if you look at the image of the vessel and her elevation Drawing,it can be seen that the only provision of hoisting is FWD however the upper and lower deck plan would preclude the storage or and movement of any Gangway

3. Whilst not shown, it would be fair to believe that deck planking on the lower deck [including engine room] would have also been planked and with similar sectioned timbers

4. Was PS 427-8 built in England for the Turkish trade?......a vessel of such size would have only plied established waterways and routes, so would these destination wharves not had or used the shore based gangways?, or my best guess is disembarking via..."Double Chain Across & Ladder Portable " could this be the term Ladder being a gangway?

This last point is one that other members could possibly offer greater correction or clarification

It is also of mention, that not all detail is shown in or on Drawings......the image of Hale Seyyale on the water shows a davits & a lifeboat on the FWD Stdb side which [lifeboat] is not on any Plan

There is also a cluttered out of focus detail of horizontal dark object on the FWD Stdb side paddle sponson?.....could this be a Gangway in the stored position?

Derek

PS....reading the electronic Postcard Book on Budapest and the Bosphorus, it is clear that paddler ferries were of an immense and great importance to the transportation of the populace then and still today with alternate ferries....the story of Hale - Seyyale can be translated here

http://www.sualtigazetesi.com/?p=13634

Ilhan Gokcay:
Hello Derek, thanks for your helpful response.

The drawings 1,2,3,4 are cut out parts of the main deck and cross section drawings, I named them myself.
Yes, PS427-8 was built in England for Turkey. It's used as passenger ferry in Bhosporus.
(There are some other drawings which shows lifeboats ob both sides.)

I suppose that this gangway is a part of the deck (raised or not I don't know or seperate than the wood deck) for the passengers to step on. But how does it look like ?

By the way, what do you mean with "plied established waterways" ? Thats not clear for me.

Ilhan

derekwarner_decoy:
Ilhan

Again I see the text words 'For Detail of Gangway see Separate Plan', however I do not believe it [the gangway] would be stored athwart ships in such a vulnerable place where passengers would walk ...clearly it would have been a hazard for the very crowded passenger numbers 

You could research passenger paddlers of similar age/tonnage used in England & see if you can find any images of gangways

There are video images of PS Waverley & gangways, however she is near twice the tonnage and a different build

With respect to established waterways, I simply meant the Sayyale would berth at passenger wharf's where shore side gangways may have been used?

Interesting to see that units of measure for deck rope were also listed or recorded in Fathoms
eg., 75 Fathoms of 7 1/2" [circumference] Tow Line

Derek

TailUK:
I think that the planked sections are areas of the main deck that form planked walkways across the width of the ship and separate the front and rear Saloons from the Engine room.  You can see on the Main Deck arrangement and "Deck Gangway 2"  drawing that the doors of the First Class Saloon opens into the planked area.  The ends of each gangway is open to the weather and I assume that the decks in the gangways are planked to provide a "non-slip" surface for passenger entering the Saloons on the main deck and ascending the stairs to the Promanade Deck.  The catwalks shown on the engine room sections are running lengthways through the engine room to provide access to the crew wishing to move between bow and stern.  I'm pretty sure that this is the only area of the Main deck that is planked as the majority of the rest of that deck is taken up with the 1st and 2nd Class saloons which would have either Linoleum floors or carpets.  The plan doesn't show what the deck of the Promenade is.  But it could be just steel plates.
On the drawing the green line marks the gangways.  The Blue square shows the water tanks shown on your first drawing.

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