Ideas for future builds

[Spankbucket]

If I could find some plans/details I would build the 'Kaiserin Elisabeth', or one of the other paddlers, in the Austrian Fleet of 1866 at the battle of Lissa.

I believe she was built in Glasgow but that's all I know.

[DamienG]

Bought this kit today on ebay from an NZ seller Overall length 14 1/2"
No need for extra length as I'll not be sailing anymore.

[Spankbucket]

Hi Damien

Sorry to hear you will sail no more....I'm the same but I hope new building projects will more than compensate.

That kit looks almost identical in look and size of the on I lost in a sinking in the 'early '70's that I described in an email earlier although mine was entirely scratch-built. I think I will look for one of these to bring back memories and even to go sinking with lol!!

[DamienG]

 

[DamienG]

I didn't realize until I opened the box it's a plastic kit.

[Spankbucket]

I knew that!!

If you want to shed it I would consider a reasonable price plus cheap postage from Aus.

[Paddlemex]

Now that you have mentioned it …
Looking at the box stating "186 pieces" may point to a plastic kit.
I guess nobody saw that in the first glance at the box.

Plastic kits can be entertaining and if you don't want to sail anymore …

Jurgen

[DamienG]

Indeed.

[Hankwilliams]

Very interesting project, the "Carolina", first Danube paddler from 1817 with open steam engine and boiler. First I saw the little 1 : 50 scale model in  Budapest Trafic museum (Közelekedesi Muzeum), long time ago. I now have enlarged the plans to 1 : 10 scale, this would give a very wide model of 133 cm lenght and hull breadth of 32 cm, breadth over paddles would be 67 cm. Indeed nearly all parts of engine and boiler must be selfmade, the cogwheels are obtainable in trade. The model except engine and boiler would be not too difficult, I consider, whether my ability is enough, to make the boat with live steam propulsion.

Thomas

[Hankwilliams]

Another static model of "Carolina" in Vienna, Bezirksmuseum Floridsdorf.

[derekwarner_decoy]

I do find this vessel interesting Thomas.......

At first I thought  IMG_3965 and Caroline 1817 were the same model...but this is not the case

The steering is a little different between vessels and IMG_3965 had a rope drum? at the AFT end of the engine mechanism

Derek

[Hankwilliams]

Yes it is. But I think the main difference are the feathered wheels of the second picture. The paddles were diving in complete vertical manner in and out water, the excenter was above the hub of the wheels. This is also visible at the antique picture of the "Carolina".

[Paddlemex]

The very peculiar arrangement of the engine makes it an interesting build. It looks like the cylinder is in the boiler.

Also the different types of paddle wheels caught my attention.
Could it be possible that Mr. Bernhard, the builder of the full size ship, made several types of wheels while he was testing the "new" invention?
The hanging feathering mechanism looks a lot like the mechanism Claude Jouffroy used a few decades earlier. Maybe Bernhard then discovered that fixed paddle wheels where easier to build. Or was it viceversa?

Jurgen

[Hankwilliams]

Hi Jürgen,

a very exact descripion of Bernhards boat is protectet. Obviously the boat has this feathering paddles - the same manner like Claude de Joffroys model in Paris.  I made pictures of the description and will post it - sorry, the description is in german language. Hope, it will be possible to read it!

[Paddlemex]

Very interesting - and in parts entertaining - description. Unfortunately (for most) in German.

Here a hint for those who want to try anyway: I had a neckache after reading the first page sideways, but then I realized that if you open the image by clicking the little clip under the image it will open in a separate window and there you can rotate it to be upright.

Jurgen