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ellenjay99

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Steam Ship Edina
« on: December 05, 2010, 05:31:31 PM »
 I am after any information about the Steam Ship Edina  built by Barclay and 1854 in Glasgow.  The information I am seeking is mainly between 1853-1862. I also believe she was a blockade runner during the Civil War, but cannot verify this.
Thank you.

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 08:35:37 PM »
The long-lasting Port Phillip (Victoria Australia) Edina was built by Barclay Curle, in Glasgow, in 1854.  It worked there until 1862, then was exported.
I have no hint of it being a blockade runner, and no written support to justify the claim that it was the ship which took Florence Nightingale to Crimea.

There is a a lot available about this vessel, but is it the one you want?

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

Stuart Badger

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 09:22:51 PM »
It may be useful to obtain the yard number of the vessel. There were 4 (four) Edinas - a lot of info is available on Google.

All the best

Stuart

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 10:02:39 PM »
One of the other 'Edinas' would be an Australian tugboat that was based in Geelong. The Edina of bay fame under went a lot of changes in her life time.
Attached is from T.K. Fitchet's book Down the Bay. Jack Loney's book Bay steamers and Coastal ferries makes no mention of her as a blockade runner not impossible. www.floataboat.com.au has plans for her.

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 10:17:06 PM »
Google is a marvelous thing. See also -
http://www.geelongaustralia.com.au/heritage/gallery/item/8cd2ed62b73af0e.aspx
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/403983/steam-ship-model-ss-edina
"In 1855 Edina was requisitioned by the Admiralty from her owners the Leith, Hull & Hamburg Steam Packet Co. to carry stores and horses to the Black Sea during the Crimean War. After return to her owners Edina traded around the UK and Mediterranean before being purchased and used as a blockade runner during the American Civil War carrying cotton from the Confederate states in 1861" From the above website an email to the museum my provide more info and the source of the info on the website.

Also see http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/2/8/doc/b28454.shtml

Also see (below) http://oceans1.customer.customer.netspace.net.au/portphillip-main.html

Edina. Iron steamer, 380/223 tons.  # 11136.Built Glasgow, 1854: reg. Melbourne 1863. Lbd 171 x 23-6 x 12-7 ft. Initially rigged with three masts and a funnel between the main and mizzen. One of Australia’s most famous steamers. Ran for a time in the North Sea trade, and because of her speed, was a blockade runner during the Crimean War where she experienced the first of her many collisions when she rammed a Russian ship.In 1863 ran bales of cotten out of Galveston, Texas during the American Civil War, at the time rigged as a three-masted steamer. In 1865 came to Australia and ran from Portland to Melbourne, then to New Zealand when gold was discovered there. In 1880 ran on the Melbourne-Geelong passenger and freight service, with an altered rig of only one mast. She had many further collisions and ‘incidents’ during her long life, and became known as a ‘collision specialist’. economic conditions forced her from service in 1938. Owned by Warrnambool Steam Packet Co. Ltd when she ran the coast to Warrnambool and Portland, but better known later in the bay trade.
[WL],[LV,[LG], [LO],[#LSS],[LLB],[#LC],[WPH - 322/239 tons],[#DG]
Lawson states that at the time of writing (1927) she was the oldest operating steamer in the world. The oldest steamer afloat is stated to be the famous Great Britain, lying as a hulk in the Falkland Islands.
On 18 April 1863, she was at anchor in Portland Bay when a squall sprang up and forced her ashore where she lay for two days, battered by heavy seas, before being refloated and taken to Melbourne for repairs. [LSS]
On 30 April 1869, when entering Port Phillip Heads on a voyage from Warrnambool to Melbourne with a number of passengers and a full cargo, struck a submerged object and began taking water. The pumps were set to work until she reached Williamstown where she was run ashore.  [LR],[WPH],[LPH]
On 18 June 1869, stranded at Point Gellibrand, Port Phillip. [WPP]
In 1870, during a gale at Warrnambool, the steamer Dandenong drifted close to the Edina and finally swung broadside on to her bow, damaging the Edina’s figurehead, which was replaced when she was overhauled during 1872-73.
In 1880 - collided with the coal hulk City of Melbourne near the mouth of the Yarra River, Melbourne, suffering only minor damage
In 1883, involved in collision with vessel Cerberus, Victorian waters.
In 1883, assisted in salvage of cargo from stranded steamer rodondo, Point Lonsdale. [LR]
In 1887, assisted in rescue - see SS Cheviot, 1887.
On 6 March 1893, stranded at Geelong. [WPP]
In 1894, involved in collision with steamer Courier, Corio Bay. [LC]
In 1898, ashore at point Gellibrand, Port Phillip. [LC]
On the evening of 27 April 1898, she struck SS Manawatu near Williamstown.  The Manawatu, badly damaged in the bows, sank soon after, while the Edina was run ashore on Point Gellibrand with a gaping hole in her side. The tugs Geebung, and Eagle, attempted to get her off without success, but she managed to get off apparently without assistance. [WPP],[LC]
In 1899, she rammed and sank her rival, the Excelsior, in Hobsons Bay, Port Phillip. Holed on the port side near the funnel, the Excelsior sank in five fathoms forty-five minutes later, after all passengers had been transferred to the Edina.  The Excelsior was raised seven months later. [WPP]
On 9 July 1924, stranded at Point Gellibrand, Port Phillip. [WPP]
In 1931, July, she rammed the tug Hovell in Hobsons Bay; this being the last of her collisions before ]
On 16 September 1932, stranded at Portarlington, Port Phillip. [WPP]
In 1934, involved in collision with vessel Ormiston, Yarra River, Melbourne.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 10:41:00 PM by Barry »

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 02:08:13 AM »
Thta's a pretty little ship.

ellenjay99

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 01:42:53 PM »
Many thanks to all who have replied.
 The Edina I am searching is the one built by Barclay Curle 1854. I have evidence that Florence Nightingale did travel on her but only on short trip.  It relation to the plans I beieve there was a fire at Barclays around 1855 and all plans whould have been destroyed. From the Lloyds list I have a copy of the register dated 1862 before her jouney to Australia. Its is the interim years 1855-1862 that are difficult to research. I have heard that she remained in normal service for the Leith and Hull Co. but I am yet to confirm that.
The long-lasting Port Phillip (Victoria Australia) Edina was built by Barclay Curle, in Glasgow, in 1854.  It worked there until 1862, then was exported.
I have no hint of it being a blockade runner, and no written support to justify the claim that it was the ship which took Florence Nightingale to Crimea.

There is a a lot available about this vessel, but is it the one you want?

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

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Re: Steam Ship Edina
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 04:44:42 AM »
I think the World Ship Society published a book on the Leith, Hull and Hamburg company, or it may have been an article in a very old copy of Sea Breezes that I remember.
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/leith.htm
and
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=tdrcs44i4qm4urr03813gqrvb0&topic=499035.new
have details about her
Alistair Deayton
Paisley
Scotland

 

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