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Topic: Westward Ho (Read 16429 times)
ancoaster78
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #30 on:
September 18, 2009, 07:53:03 PM »
Malcolm,
You're welcome, as is anyone else who decides to build any ship I have researched and asks for help!
The sternpost is not the rudder post, the rudder post is called exactly that. The aft perpendicular on a ship without a sternpost, Bristol Queen for example, is same line as the turning axis of the rudder, as you suggest. However the Westward Ho has a sternpost and the aft edge of it is the Aft Perpendicular.
The sternpost is very similar to the stem, in the case of Westward Ho the stem is a 6''x1'' steel (or iron) bar running right the way up the front edge of the hull. all of the hullplates lap onto it, the sternpost is 6''x2'' and runs vertically up the stern from keel the the point were the counter stern overhangs, again all of the hullplates lap onto it. The rudder is mounted directly aft of the sternpost, the hinges for the rudder would be built onto the stern post. Basically, the outside edge of the sternpost, is the outside edge of the hull at the stern, excluding the overhang.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentish/29004860/in/pool-pswaverley
That photo shows the bow of the Waverley, you can clearly see the stem, on this ship its 4'' not 6'' as on Westward Ho, and is raked forward considerably whereas Westward Ho is vertical.
http://freespace.virgin.net/tom.lee/westwardimg.htm
That one shows Westward Ho as built, my favorite of its various incarnations I think, clearly shows the vertical stem and pronounced sheer to the deck....
http://paddlesteamers.freehostia.com/WestwardHo.htm
This one a nice side view of the ship in its final version, with portholes instead of windows on the maindeck, different paddlebox decorations, a different funnel, extra lifeboats (post Titanic) and a deckhouse aft of the funnel.
Hope this makes things clearer?
have fun
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djcf
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #31 on:
September 18, 2009, 08:18:11 PM »
Hi all,
Does anyone know why Westward Ho and others in the Campbell fleet ended up having those rather large flagstaffs at or near the stern? They seem very tall, I'm sure there must be a reason for it.
Malcolm, good luck with the model....a fine looking ship
Clark
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ancoaster78
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #32 on:
September 18, 2009, 08:40:40 PM »
Hi Clark,
If you are refering to the second photo of the two, the flagstaff is actually a Mizzenmast and they were fitted to a lot of the ships to carry radio ariels clear of the funnel from the main mast.
The ships so fitted lost their flagpoles from the stern and had the ensign flown from a gaff on these mizzenmasts instead.
A fine looking ship indeed :-)
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R.G.Y.
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #33 on:
September 18, 2009, 11:07:01 PM »
A change in the regulations required vessels over 50ft to carry a second all round white navigation light. Hence the need for the mizzen mast, although Cosens of Weymouth but the second light on a pole fixed to the rear of the funnel.R.G.Y.
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ancoaster78
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #34 on:
September 19, 2009, 12:49:48 AM »
Both answers are correct, although the change in lighting regulations came in 1952/3, long after Westward ho had been withdrawn from service and scrapped, and resulted in full height masts at the stern, as on Bristol Queen, Cardiff Queen and as still seen on Waverley today.
These little half height masts on several of the Campbells ships, as shown in the photo on the freehostia site, predate this considerably and were for radio ariels. Full details can be found in the White Funnels series by Chris Collard.
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djcf
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #35 on:
September 19, 2009, 06:26:03 AM »
Thanks guys, always wondered about that
Clark
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Malcolm
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #36 on:
October 10, 2009, 07:45:57 AM »
Hi Andy. Any progress with hull lines for "Westward Ho"? I've got some wood now, but am a bit scared to cut anything until I know I'm doing the right thing. If you need to send anything by post, expenses happily met. Malcolm.
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ancoaster78
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Re: Westward Ho
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Reply #37 on:
October 14, 2009, 09:48:54 AM »
Hi Malcolm,
Sorry for delay in replying, since my redundancy 2 weeks ago life has changed considerably and I am no longer blessed with idle paid hours infront of the office PC waiting for things to go wrong so havn't had chance to look on here too much.
I havn't had the chance to try and make the document work on here either, so think posting is the only way to go if this is gonna get to you in the near future.
Send me your address in a personal message, and I will send a paper copy to you, that I can manage!
Cheers
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