Jupiter/Juno

[dgp1957]

Gents
Do you know if anyone produces Hulls/Plans for the above steamers?

David

[Eddy Matthews]

There isn't a hull available for the Jupiter/Juno, and no model drawings either - At least none that I know of. But some shipyard drawings are available from the Ballast Trust in Glasgow, see the following topic: http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4068.0

Eddy

[djcf]

David,
Assuming you mean the 1937 sisters? Dont know about plans, but Mike Mayhew from Waverley Models
20B Moor Lane
Clevedon
BS21 6ES

Tel. 01275 546772

produces a hull for PS Cardiff Queen. Her hull was based on the Juno\Jupiter, although I believe the CQ is slightly longer than the J/J were.
May be possible to redraw Caledonia 1934 plans into J/J, hull shape aft was different & more flare to bow.
Regards,
Clark

[Walter Snowdon]

If you go into the downloads section, click onto magazines then click onto SHIPBUIDER AND SHIPPING RECORD , then you will find a 3 page article on Jupiter and Juno with a reduced shipyard drawing dated June 1937 and another drawing in the December 1937 issue of the same magazine I remember when I found these that they struck me as looking particularly accurate. . I am not sure about using Cardiff Queen as a basis as there were numerous differences in the hull, particularly in the stern. Regards, Walter.

[Talisman]

My dad has made a model of the jupiter (1937) i will have a look and see if i can find drawings for her.
Interestingly she has very similar lines to the marchoness of graham (excluding the paddle boxes!)
will get back to you asap.
The drawings in the download section do look accurate - see what i can do regarding hull shape

[Talisman]

I have built the maid of cumbrae and still have the drawings for her if that helps with your maid of ashton - there were only very slight differences between the 4 maids and the only person i know that knew the exact details is sadly not with us anymore.

[dgp1957]

Thanks gents, Iv downloaded the Juno plans from the downloads section, transfered it into AutoCad hopefully scaled it correctly, now going to try and print it out, heres hoping.

David

[dgp1957]

Thanks Talisman, the drawings I hve just show the decks, some eleveations and a side plan to the waterline, there ois nothing for beneath the waterline on the drawings, rudder etc, dont know how important that would be, but if you have something showing running gear rudder/shafts etc, that would be a great help.

Thanks

[Talisman]

Hi, i have inluded a pic below of the Juno a great model which was made using an adapted marchoness of Grahame hull.
I have had a look through my plans and all i can come up with at the moment is a 1/8 side elevation including beaneath the waterline. the rudder is a very simle arrangement.
Will take me a wee bit of time but best i can do is take a profile guage to the jupiter hull and re draw the lines if that would be of use.

[dgp1957]

beautiful model, where was the Marchioness of Graham hull bought from, is it commercially available?

[Talisman]

It was scratch built. To my knowledge there aren't many Clyde steamers available commercially.
I think at some time there was either a kit or a hull available for the Maids although technically not a 'steamer'
Hulls are available for the Talisman, Barmoral  (again not steamers) and the Waverly, I have made my opinions known on these hulls in another thread

While sorting through stuff to day i have decided to have a clear out of some of my models including a talisman and Waverly hull - from Models by Design.
I'm doing this to clear the decks for a 1/2 inch to the foot model of the depv talisman which has been waiting patiently for 20 years for some attention.

 I will post the models on ebay and pop a link in a new thread on Paddle ducks

[dgp1957]

Thanks mate I will keep my eyes open 

[Ian McGhie]

Hi Guys,

If you are looking for plans of the 1937 Jupiter and Juno copies of the original builders plans can be bought from the Glasgow Records Office in the Mitchell Library . They have the full GA 1/96 as well as 1:48 drawings of the deck houses and paddle boxes. Sadly no lines but I would have thought a shortened Cardiff Queen hull would be accurate enough.
Best regards
Ian

[djcf]

Hi all,
Regarding Juno/Jupiter & Cardiff Queen, I have been trying to find an article I read about how the CQ hull was based on J/J, but lengthened, I think, to stop the tendancy to dig her bow deeper in the water when travelling at speed. ( think the J/J did about 17 odd knots on trial). Dont think the Jupiter got close to that after the war.
Looking through some books and photos it seems the CQ bow is more raked than J/J, which seems almost vertical. The CQ looks higher in the water also.
The question is...given the differences between the hulls, would it be better just to scratchbuild a Jupiter hull, than major butchery on a CQ hull...although I have considerably butchered the bent bow of my MV Lochiel successfully...then again cutting a whole section out is quite a daunting task!!!
However the J & J were good looking paddlers & make fine models
regards
Clark

[sandystrone]

I have done a drawing of my p.s. JUPITER which I had intended to submit to MODEL BOATS as an article this year, but my MAID OF THE LOCH comes out first.
JUPITER is 72" long or there abouts at scale of 5/16 to the foot, and this model is now in the Cowal Museum in Dunon.    Sandy Thomson