Steam Fittings

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's.....& welcome Kno3...go to our WEB links & look at the JMC steam engine site...on the opening page they display a similar glass tubed oiler [very expensive] but it is the approximate height of their three cylinder engine & does not look out of place

 ......I also have the 400-110 series glass tubed displacement lubricator from Winfried

As Crash asks...yes please post a few .jpgs of you steam plant - regards

[crash93]

Ah the name Kno3 you are the chap that was on the us site where I first saw the oilier, that started this thread, how is the build going on that site and most others I am HS93.

peter

[kno3]

Hello! Yes, I'm the one. Here are some pictures of my oiler from Niggel Modellbau and the instalation (and the whole tugboat as of yesterday):

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's & thank's Kno3 for .......well planked hull....... ...& steam bits

I see the Modellbau Niggel oiler in the second snap but do not understand the discharge tubing.....or the inlet tubing.....does it connect  via a T into the lagged line? & how you drain the condensate?

[kno3]

Thanks!

The fresh steam line is the one coming from the servo towards the valve (so actually runs from back to front), and the oiler is connected in it via that T-connector piece with a spherical body. The exhaust steam line is the one with a silicone tube on it, seen curving down.

The drainage of the oiler is done either through the bottom screw (for wich i have to remove the oiler from the boat) or, if leaving it in, with a syringe via the top screw.

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's......the manufacturer ...Modellbau Niggel has added a new or additional set of Glass Tubed Oilers....with a built in blow down valve facility to displace the water condensate

http://www.modellbau-niggel.de/Verdraengungsoeler-mit-Glaszylinder-410-111-i262.html

 ...Winfried.....10/10 for thought & design & for say 10 EURO extra is great value........I spent 50 EURO to achieve the same function with external valving & manifold block.......... ...regards Derek

[crash93]

He had the two new ones on eBay last week , they look handy, a lot easy-er to blow it in to your separator tank than have to use a syringe.
Peter

[derekwarner_decoy]

Sorry PD's ....& Winfried....the increase in cost is not 10 Euro........but 5.8 Euro.....which is super GOOD value  & considering the additional facility....Derek

[kno3]

I saw them too, which makes me think why didn't I wait before getting mine? 
On the other hand, my boat is so small and cramped that I'm not sure if i could fit it in with the extra valves and pipes. However, the idea is very good.
And the other good thing about Niggel is that he is willing to customize the parts he sells, for instance if you require a different thread on the screws etc.

[crash93]

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And the other good thing about Niggel is that he is willing to customize the parts he sells, for instance if you require a different thread on the screws etc.

I wish I knew that before I order mine I got one of each of the old ones pre valve on bottom. also If he did paypal I am shore he would sell a lot more I had to get my pal in Frankfurt to buy them then send them over so two lots of postage.

peter

[kno3]

Bank transfer should be pretty easy to do...

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's.......I like the combination of shot blasted finish + machined brass.. ....so posted a question to Winfried & here is his response...which is interesting as it is simply grit blasting followed by a lashing of WD40........

A search on the http://www.selva.de/product_info.php?cPath=Werkstatt&sPath=Elektrowerkzeug&products_id=Sandstrahlkabine%20381306 ...on Grit Blasting provides a 229 EURO BoHler machine....which appears good value...................

BÖHLER Sand blaster 
     
   For cleaning, matting, paint-removing, restoring or aging of all types of surfaces. Results in a clean, even finish.
The system works without compressor but with a vacuum provided by any common household vacuum cleaner. This system has been developed specifically for model building to be able to work precisely on small parts with fine detail. The vacuum within the housing draws the blasting material and blows it - depending on the amount of suction provided by the vacuum cleaner through the jet pipe onto the work piece.
Two openings in the side and one in the top of the cover provide access for the jet pipe as well as a special tweezers for small parts. The grit can be re-used after filtering it through a sieve (included). 1 liter of Asilikos grit included.
Overall size 43 x 35 x 28 cm, working area 26 x 15 x 22 cm
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Winfried Niggel
To: Derek L Warner Pty Ltd
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Surface Finish of rmodellbau-niggel.de Brass Components

Hallo Derek,

meine Teile werden nach dem Löten sandgestrahlt mit diesem Gerät von SELVA mit Asilikos-Strahlmittel.

http://www.selva.de/product_info.php?cPath=Werkstatt&sPath=Elektrowerkzeug&products_id=Sandstrahlkabine%20381306

danach sprühe ich die Teile mit Öl WD-40 ein.

regards Winfried
----- Original Message -----
From: Derek L Warner Pty Ltd
To: Winfried
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:47 AM
Subject: Surface Finish of rmodellbau-niggel.de Brass Components


Hallo Winfried, ........., das ich sehe in Ihre Webseiten….viele Ihrer hergestellten Bestandteile haben, was ich bin ein Korn gesprengtes Ende… vielleicht mit Plastikschuß annehme Mein Öler hat gesessen, hier für einige Monate aber kein Zeichen der Oxidation auf der Messingschuß gesprengten Oberfläche zeigt Ich mag die Kombination des Schuß gesprengten Endes + maschinell bearbeiteter Messing,…, das ich meine anderen Dampfbestandteile mit einem Ähnliches Korn gesprengten Ende beenden kann…, aber gibt es alles ich tun kann, um das Oberflächenende zu konservieren, wie Ihre Bestandteile tun? Respekt Derek
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Hi Winfried.........I see in your WEB pages....many of your manufactured components have what I assume is a grit blasted finish...possibly with plastic shot

My Oiler has been sitting here for a few months but does not show any sign of oxidation on the brass shot blasted surface

I like the combination of shot blasted finish + machined brass...I can finish my other steam components with a similar grit blasted finish...but is there anything I can do to preserve the surface finish as your components do?

regards Derek

[bogstandard]

Hi Derek,

With regards to bead blasting (in my case glass bead).

I had a bucketload of trouble with my blasting, OK it was ali, but every time I tried to polish, the blasted area used to get dirty from the polishing soap (couldn't mask it), so I had to get it chemi cleaned again, which then meant I had to repolish, which meant the blast area would get dirty ................. .

Blasted areas can look great for a good contrast, but it can get to look rather dirty after a short while, and it is very difficult to clean as it holds all the muck in the minute pockets.

I ended up painting the areas that had been blasted.

I am just about to install my own small blasting and cleaning plant, as I had a 3 day turnaround on my parts. Which held up production a lot.

John