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Author Topic: PS Adelaide...2007 New Construction - [Richard Bundy]  (Read 39606 times)

thewharfonline

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2007, 06:36:54 PM »
Um somewhere I have some but they are film photos not digital, so not on my computer. I will get them for you though, I'll skip through my collection. I won't have many though

Sean

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2007, 03:09:16 PM »
Bit of an update on my Adelaide build.
 
Can not get cedar here in Bundy and I didn't like the pine available so I've gone with plan A and am using 2mm ply. It doesn't bend well but I am making a paper template of each blank and cutting on the CNC which is working really well if a little slow. Thick ZAP is sticking the ply down easily enough and I'm using a small belt sander to smooth it all out. Not the way it is done in the classics I'm sure but I'm happy with it so far, it is very strong and when glassed and painted should look the part.
 
My JJC 'Old Smokey' cold water smoker arrived and seems to make just the right amount of 'smoke' for the Adelaide. Still waiting on the Zulu plans to arrive :(
 
Has anyone got or know where I could get some upclose pictures of the inard workings of the real Adelaide's engine room? The Float-A-Boat drawings have some details but a few pictures would make it all so much clearer.

Richard

thewharfonline

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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2007, 04:30:10 PM »
Gee that's looking good.

I think the best person to ask for photos would be Michael, because if he doesn't have photos already he can go to the Port and take some photos for you.

I don't know why I've never taken a shot of the engine before.

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PS Adelaide...2007 New Construction - [Richard Bundy]
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2007, 04:50:11 PM »
Hi PD's & yes Bundy you have made some progress, but one or two questions

1) are the plans imperial ", or metric mm ?

2) what is the actual depth of hold [deck level to keel plate] 'a mid ships'?... from the  :kewl & the 300 mm rule as a guide I guess approx 5"

3) what are the principal model dimensions?

Derek
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bundyrap

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2007, 05:42:46 PM »
Hi Derek

Specs for the original are as attached from the Float-A-Boat plan I'm using and it is imperial. I'm building to 1/16th  which in metric gives me a LOA of 1455mm, depth of 95mm and a measured hull width of 320mm.

Given the hull shape is fullish, square shape and not highly tapered I'm guessing a displacement of around the 15kg mark to get her to sit at her nominal 2.3 feet full size water line. Is there a more accurate way to calculate displacement at this stage?

Very nice pics of your Decoy there Derek. Is there a thread going somewhere on how you are doing such fine work? I'd love to understand how such fine details are achieved.

Richard

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2007, 08:15:14 PM »
The hull is looking really nice so far Richard..... Can't wait to see it slowly come together. I always enjoy watching other peoples builds, there's always something new to learn from the way other people do things.
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2007, 09:05:08 PM »
Hi Bundy - a few ...... :computer comments/answers would suggest

1) thanks for the dimensions :rant  :shoot

2) AutoCAD 2004 MarineCAD @ $9000.00 per copy will provide any dimensional to displacement  issues - I too cannot afford a copy

3)  My guess of your PS Adelaide is more from your estimated 15 Kg to the 19>20.5 Kg displacement range :?:

4) Question - Is there a thread going somewhere on how you are doing such fine work?

5) Answer - yes I have previously acknowledged the 'Daniel Bourard' WEB site via our links - this French model builders work was the inspiration for me to convert from VOLTZ to real STEAM & I have never looked back  :ohno apart from my AMEX billls - however during the next months I will  :crash  :crash - until I get it ....acceptable  - Derek  :beer
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michael

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PS Adelaide...2007 New Construction - [Richard Bundy]
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2007, 06:28:46 PM »
Heres a front on of her engines, got more if you want them

bundyrap

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2007, 06:23:21 PM »
Hi All

Just logged in here and saw your pic Michael.  Thankyou heaps!!!  That is just what I needed.

I've got a few things on at the moment but will post some progress pics very soon. Hull is now glassed inside and out and ready to paint before moving onto the deck structure.

Thanks again
Richard

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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2007, 07:43:56 PM »
I've got a few other projects on the go (sadly the Zulu is still not amongst them - lost in the mail it appears) so progress on the Adelaide is steady.

As you can see in the pics the glassing is finished inside with 4 layers making it all extremely strong at 3.5kg. The outside has been sealed with 2 layers of epoxy but I feel I've smoothed it out too much for the look I was after. There will still be a hint of the planking underneath but not as much as in Sean's pics of the real thing. Plan is to paint the hull at this stage before cutting on the sponson beams.

I've also been playing with the winch as well on the CNC. I really love making this sort of detail but lack of prototype information is a problem. I've got a few sketches from the Float-A-Boat plan and Sean's pic from the park and that is it. From looking at similar winches I should be able to make something close to the real thing but some pics of the real thing would be so good. Anyone have any ideas?

Richard

thewharfonline

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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 11:06:57 PM »
That looks like a really good start on the whinch to me. Have you tried photos from say the Godson collection or some other photographic collection, they might be of some help. Check through some books if you have them available, or when I get a free moment I might be able to.

Sean

Bill Hudson

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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 04:22:21 AM »
I have added a photo of the double winch from the tugboat sternwheeler Portland to the photo gallery.  For some reason the forum would not accept my photo as an attachment.  
Bill.

[Edited by Admin to include the attachment]

Bill Hudson

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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2007, 05:44:33 AM »
Thank you Admin. :D

Bill

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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2007, 06:00:19 AM »
Quote from: "Bill Hudson"
Thank you Admin. :D

Bill


Hey, I was just sitting here twiddling my thumbs, so it gave me something to do Bill  :lol:
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PS Adelaide...2007 New Construction - [Richard Bundy]
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2007, 06:09:25 AM »
There are two winches sitting on a railway truck at the Echuca wharf.  One is from the SUCCESS...  The other, I'm pretty sure, is the ADELAIDE's.  Maybe someone can get a pic of these, as most winches on Murray boats were pretty similiar.

 

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