LIST OF PADDLERS

[Brian]

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Having wondered how many Paddle Vessels/Ships which still exist throughout the world, I referred my copy of the book -
“International Register of Historic Ships”,
edited by Norman J Brouwer (2nd Edition - 1993)
[ISBN 0-904614-46-8 (pbk) / ISBN 0-904614-50-6 (hbk)]

The following list shows the distribution of the "Paddlers" mentioned in the book, and it is hoped that many will find it interesting. Although the information is from 1993, perhaps the list could be updated if information is provided.

Brian

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LIST OF HISTORIC PADDLE VESSELS - (as at 1993)
NOTES:
• The number placed after the country is the count of vessels listed, and
• the date following the vessel’s name indicates the date given as the date of building.
• Most of the vessels listed are “side-wheelers”, with those which are “stern-wheelers” being marked #.
• From this list it may be seen that there are 112 paddle vessels distributed throughout the world.

AUSTRALIA (17) - Adelaide (1866); Alexander Arbuthnot (1923); Australien (1897); Colonel (1895); Enterprise (1878); Etona (1899); Gem (1876); Industry (1911); Maid of Sker (1884); Marion (1897); Melbourne (1912); Oscar W (1908); Pevensey (1910); Pyap (1896); Ranger (1909); Ruby (1907); Success (1877).

AUSTRIA (2) - Gisela (1872); Schoabrunn (1912).

BRAZIL (1) - Benjamin Guimares# (1913).

CANADA (7) - Keno# (1922); Klondike# (1937); Moyie# (1898); Samson V# (1937); Segwun (1887); Sicamous# (1914); Trillium (1910).

CHINA (1) - Yeng He (pre 1909).

CIS+UKRAINE (1) - S V Nicholai (1887).

CZECHOSLOVAKIA (4) - Devin (1938); Labe (1949); Vltava (1940); Vysehrad (1938).

DENMARK (2) - Hjejlen (1861); Schwartzburg (1896).

GERMANY (19) - Diesbar (1884); Dresden (1926); Goethe (1913); Junger Pioneer (1898); Kaiser Wilhelm (1900); Kurort Rathen (1896); Leipzig (1929); Mannheim (1929); Meissen (1885); Oscar Huber (1922); Pirna (1898); Reisa (1897); Rudesheim (1926); Ruthof (1922); Sachsenwald (1914); Schmilka (1897); Stadt Wehlen (1879); Weltfrieden (1886); Wuttemburg (1908).

GREAT BRITAIN (10) - Compton Castle (1914); John H Amos (1931); Kingswear Castle (1924); Lincoln Castle (1940); Maid of the Loch (1953); Medway Queen (1924); Ryde Queen (1937); Tattershall Castle (1934); Waverley (1934); Wingfield Castle (1934).

HUNGARY (4) - Helka (1891); Kelen (1891); Kossuth (1914); Petofi (1920).

ITALY (3) - Concordia (1926); Patria (1926); Piemonte (1904).

NETHERLANDS (1) - Kapitein Kok (1912).

NEW ZEALAND (2) - Kopu (1897); Waimarie (Good Fortune) (1900).

NORWAY (1) - Skilbladner (1856)

ROMANIA (1) - Tudor Vladimirescu (1854)

SUDAN (1) - Bordein (1869)
 
SWITZERLAND (14) - Blumlisalp (1906); Gallia (1913); La Suisse (1910); Lotschberg (1914); Rhone (1927); Rigi (1848); Savoie (1914)Schiller (1906); Simplon (1915); Stadt Luzern (1928); Stadt Rapperswil (1914); Stadt Zurich (1909); Unterwalden (1902); Uri (1901)

UNITED_STATES (21) - Arkansas II# (1940); Becky Thatcher# (1927); Belle of Louisville# (1914); Captain Merriweather Lewis (1932); City of Clifton# (1936); Delta Queen# (1926); Eppleton Hall (1914); Eureka (1890); Geo. M. Verity# (1927); Jean# (1938); Logsdon# (1941); Lone Star# (1922); Minnesota Centenniel Showboat # (1890); Montgomery# (1926); Portland# (1947); Ticonderoga (1906); W P Snyder Jr# (1918); W T Preston# (1939); Wake Robin# (1926); William M Black (1934); William S Mitchell (1934)

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This list does not include modern "fake paddlers"

[Roderick Smith]

What was the author's scope: paddle and steam?  paddle and steam or internal combustion?  Operating commercially? Operating commercially or privately? Preserved but static?  IIRC there were twice as many boats in Australia in 1993, and three times as many today.  See now Sean's list, under APAM list in the Research forum.

There are considerable overlaps in the world of steam and paddle.
I have just spent a few months helping Alistair ensure that the Australian section of his forthcoming book on surviving passenger-carrying steam vessels of the world is complete.  His scope excludes diesel ones (eg PV Coonawarra or PV Rothbury), and private steam (eg PS William Randell).
He has decided to include PS Etona, because of its interesting history (CofE mission vessel, then fishing vessel, then private owner) and its wide world exposure through reprising its mission role in 'All the rivers run'.

In Australia; the best all-time register is Parsons 'Ships of the inland rivers', with Plowman's 2006 book bringing the register up to date for recent private-owner vessels.

Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor

[rjenkins]

A couple of minor corrections off the top of my head:

CANADA (7) - Segwun (1887);
Actually a twin-screw steamer rebuilt in the 1920's from the 1887 sidewheeler Nipissing.

UNITED_STATES (21) - Minnesota Centenniel Showboat # (1890)
She burned a few years back and only the steel hull remained until it was broken up for scrap just last year or early this year.

A couple more to add to the US List:

Lansdowne, 1884 Detroit River sidewheel railcar ferry, later used as a restaurant, now a stripped down hulk laid up in Buffalo, NY after an aborted refurbishment for further restaurant use.  Paddlewheels (or portions thereof) and one of the two engines are still in place.

Sausalito, 1894 San Francisco Bay sidewheel ferry, withdrawn from service and converted to a floating clubhouse in Antioch, California around 1934, with engine, boilers, and paddle wheels removed, but otherwise still intact.

President, 1914 Mississippi River sidewheeler, last used as a riverboat casino with diesel propulsion units mounted in the paddleboxes, but the original steam machinery still in place for display aboard.  Apparently now the subject of a restoration project in Alton, Illinois.

Admiral, 1907 Mississippi River sidewheeler, rebuilt 1940's with streamlined superstructure.  Now in static use as a casino in St. Louis, Missouri.

Mount Washington, originally the 1888 Lake Champlain sidewheeler Chateaugay.  In 1940 her hull was cut into sections, transported overland to Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire, and rebuilt as a screw steamer to replace the old sidewheeler Mount Washington (I) that had burned in a pier fire.  The steam machinery was removed from the "new" Mount Washington during WWII for the war effort, and replaced with diesels after the war.

I take it we're not counting modern replicas like the Mississippi Queen, American Queen, Natchez, Julia Belle Swain, or any of the Disney boats.

Richard Jenkins

[mjt60a]

...and of course Waverley is 1947 - not 1934!

Didn't either Goethe or Rudesheim get renamed and relocated? (though that was probably correct 3 years ago...)

[rjenkins]

...and of course Waverley is 1947 - not 1934!

Didn't either Goethe or Rudesheim get renamed and relocated? (though that was probably correct 3 years ago...)

Rudesheim is now operating out of Rotterdam as De Majesteit.  Here's their website: http://www.raderstoomboot.nl/index.php?id=22

[Roderick Smith]

I have deleted the Murray River portion, as this list has now been subsumed into Sean's APAM list thread in the Research forum.
I have shunted the other Australian paddleboats into APAM, leaving the NZ ones here.  See also my NZ paddleboats thread in this forum.

NZ:
* Wanganui, Whanganui River:
 - Commercial PS Waimarie.
* Lake Taupo
 - PV Otunui (which had been at Wanganui, damaged by fire in 2003).
* Hamilton, Waikato River:
 - FPV Waipa Delta (www.waipadelta.co.nz).
* South Island, Lake Ianthe (west coast)
 - Commercial: PV Tamati.

Regards,
Roderick B Smith
RNV Editor

[Roderick Smith]

Argentina/Paraguay: The two PS train ferries at Posadas/Encarcion were still intact in 1993 (and today).  I am working my way towards posting my photos.
Bangladesh: The government operator still has about four PV in the fleet (plus a couple of screw).  These had been converted from PS to PV by 1993.  I travelled on the largest (PV Ostrich) about 4 years ago.
India: the government Ganges fleet had been withdrawn by 1993, and I have never been able to discover the fate.  I travelled on (Gomati?) in 1977.
Nile: Had/has some/many? See separate post in this thread.
Russia: Has a few operational survivors of 76 built through the 1950s (see a recent post from Alistair); others survive as static hostels
See www.riverships.ru/english/specs/?grp=737
&  www.riverships.ru/english/lists/?grp=737
The USA group hopes to reveal plans within the next 3 weeks for a May 07 Lena River cruise.
I have had zero success chasing up the history of paddle operation on Orange River (South Africa).  I paid insufficient attention to a photo of a sternwheeler in the museum at Upington.  Through navigation was blocked by Ausgrabes Falls.  Likewise I have no history of navigation on Zambesi, Limpopo or Niger rivers.  Congo navigation is only sectional, with rocky sections stopping through navigation.

Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
Revised 20.11.06

[thewharfonline]

Hey everyone...yes Roderick and I are working on a list and I'm pretty sure I currently have list part one ready to send to you Roderick! It contains all modern aussie paddlers- those that exist still today or are being built!

It goed beyong Plowman but doesn't touch the size of Ships of the Inland Rivers!

Still topples over 100 boats! Mind you I don't think I even put Grebe on it...silly me!

[Bill Worden]

Some additional information:

Lansdowne is at Erie, Pennsylvania and sank there
earlier this year.  I am not sure whether she has yet
been raised.  Her superstructure (which was recent and for
restaurant purposes) is mostly gone.  The one
remaining engine is not complete and there are no
boilers or auxiliaries.

Sv. Nicolai is reported by a contact in Russia as
mostly a replica.  I am not sure what she might have
in the way of machinery. (The Sv. is apparently the equivalent of the English St. for Saint)

In addition, in Russia, there are at least three
operable sidewheel steamers, two of which are
certainly in operation.  N. V. Gogol (1911) operates
mostly in charter service from Arkhangelsk.
Krasnoyarsk and Blagoshevensk both date from 1957,
part of a series of about sixty steamers built at
Budapest for the USSR.  One of them will operate from
Yakutsk on the Lena River this summer; the other will
apparently be in layup.  The same company owns
another of the same class, Irkutsk, which has been
laid up for some years.

The last of that same series, Budapest, stayed in
Hungary and was used for worker's river vacations
under the communist regime.  She has been laid up for
years after boiler failure, but still exists. Petofi
burned some years ago; I'm not sure what her status
is, but Alistair may know.

The Nile:

PS Sudan was built at Paisley in 1921; her passenger accommodation was completely rebuilt to luxury standards about 10-15 years ago, and she also has a Schottel drive in her stern.  She was featured in the recent BBC adaptation of Christie's Death on the Nile.

Karim of 1917 operates for Spring Tours and is marketed by Voyages Jules Verne of London; she was built as a quarter-wheel towboat for the first war and apparently never made it to her intended destination in Mesopotamia.

Memnon is owned by the same company --Seti First -- as Sudan, and was the steamer featured in "Death on the Nile" with Peter Ustinov; the movie is available on video/DVD and has a fine sequence of the steamer leaving the dock in the early minutes of the film. Memnon was originally a Thomas Cook steamer, as was Sudan. Memnon seems to have been rebuilt as a restaurant vessel about five years ago, but is now listed as a cabin steamer on the Seti First site.

Indiana, a sternwheeler, was part of the pre-War Anglo-American fleet and is not owned by the government and apparently is still moored in layup at the government works yard on Roda Island.  Her near-sister Indiana was last reported as in operation as a works steamer.

Time Machine was in operation until recent years as a cabin cruise steamer, but is now in operation at Cairo as a Chinese restaurant, her upper works decked out in an amazing Chinese manner. There's a photo at http://www.cusd.claremont.edu/~rmuir/egypt/egypt_set5.html

There are a number of other inactive sidewheel and sternwheel steamers in various states lying at various places in Cairo.

Bill Worden

[rjenkins]

Some additional information:

Lansdowne is at Erie, Pennsylvania and sank there
earlier this year.  I am not sure whether she has yet
been raised.  Her superstructure (which was recent and for
restaurant purposes) is mostly gone.  The one
remaining engine is not complete and there are no
boilers or auxiliaries.

Bill Worden

Lansdowne was raised earlier this year, and is now back in Buffalo according to reports on Boatnerd.com

[towboatjoe]

From what I've read, it's excatly what it says. Historical vessels. In the U.S. the American Queen and several other boats are not mentioned and she is a steam powered stern wheeler by an engine from an old dredge.

There are litterly hundreds of original sternwheelers still in operation in U.S. waters today. Two I know personally, built in the 20's and still pushing barges, is the MAJOR and LADY LOIS.

For more vessels on U.S. waterways check out these links

http://www.riverboatgallery.com/Riverboat_Gallery.php
http://www.hspsi.org/
http://www.steamboats.org/
http://www.riverboatdaves.com/riverboats.html
http://www.tallstacks.com/

[tonyh]

The Austrian "Kaiser Franz Josef 1" does'nt appear on the list. She sails on the Wolfgangsee from St, Wolfgang.
Built 1873, rebuilt 1954 with diesel engine, length 33m.
Anybody care to look at my 1986 shot of her.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/tramways/KaiserFranzJosefI.htm
A lovely sail in the stunning Austrian scenery

[AlistairD]

 
 

  Here are some additons    and deletions off the top of my head in additon to those already    mentioned
   
- - - -    -
LIST OF HISTORIC PADDLE VESSELS - (as at    1993)
NOTES:
• The number placed    after the country is the count of vessels listed, and
• the date following    the vessel’s name indicates the date given as the date of building.
• Most    of the vessels listed are “side-wheelers”, with those which are    â€œstern-wheelers” being marked #.
• From this list it may be seen that there    are 112 paddle vessels distributed throughout the world.

AUSTRALIA (17) - Adelaide (1866);    Alexander Arbuthnot (1923); Australien (1897); Colonel (1895); Enterprise    (1878); Etona (1899); Gem (1876); Industry (1911); Maid of Sker (1884); Marion    (1897); Melbourne (1912); Oscar W (1908); Pevensey (1910); Pyap (1896); Ranger    (1909); Ruby (1907); Success (1877).

AUSTRIA (2) - Gisela (1872);    Schoabrunn (1912).
   Â 
   that should be Schönbrunn
   

BRAZIL (1) - Benjamin Guimares#    (1913).

CANADA (7) -    Keno# (1922); Klondike# (1937); Moyie# (1898); Samson V# (1937); Segwun    (1887); Sicamous# (1914); Trillium (1910).

CHINA (1) - Yeng He (pre    1909).

CIS+UKRAINE (1)    - S V Nicholai (1887).

CZECHOSLOVAKIA (4) - Devin (1938);    Labe (1949); Vltava (1940); Vysehrad (1938).
   Â 
   Labe now in Germany as Wappen von    Minden

DENMARK    (2) - Hjejlen (1861); Schwartzburg (1896).
   Â 
   Schwarzburg    scrapped

GERMANY    (19) - Diesbar (1884); Dresden (1926); Goethe (1913); Junger Pioneer (1898);    Kaiser Wilhelm (1900); Kurort Rathen (1896); Leipzig (1929); Mannheim (1929);    Meissen (1885); Oscar Huber (1922); Pirna (1898); Reisa (1897); Rudesheim    (1926); Ruthof (1922); Sachsenwald (1914); Schmilka (1897); Stadt Wehlen    (1879); Weltfrieden (1886); Wuttemburg (1908).
   Â 
   Schmilka and Junger Pionier    scrapped
   add modern CONCORDIA    near the North sea coast, FREYA, DIESSEN on the Ammersee, HERRSCHING (modern)    on the Ammersee, LUDWIG FESSLER on the Chiemsee

GREAT BRITAIN (10) - Compton Castle    (1914); John H Amos (1931); Kingswear Castle (1924); Lincoln Castle (1940);    Maid of the Loch (1953); Medway Queen (1924); Ryde Queen (1937); Tattershall    Castle (1934); Waverley (1934); Wingfield Castle (1934).
   Â 
   Add modern    Monarch

HUNGARY    (4) - Helka (1891); Kelen (1891); Kossuth (1914); Petofi (1920).

ITALY (3) - Concordia (1926); Patria    (1926); Piemonte (1904).
   Â 
   add Italia and Zanardelli on    Lake Garda

NETHERLANDS (1) - Kapitein Kok    (1912).
   Â 
   add De Majesteit, ex    Rüdesheim

NEW    ZEALAND (2) - Kopu (1897); Waimarie (Good Fortune) (1900).

NORWAY (1) - Skilbladner    (1856)

ROMANIA (1) -    Tudor Vladimirescu (1854)
   Â 
   add Borcea

SUDAN (1) - Bordein    (1869)

SWITZERLAND (14)    - Blumlisalp (1906); Gallia (1913); La Suisse (1910); Lotschberg (1914); Rhone    (1927); Rigi (1848); Savoie (1914)Schiller (1906); Simplon (1915); Stadt    Luzern (1928); Stadt Rapperswil (1914); Stadt Zurich (1909); Unterwalden    (1902); Uri (1901)
   Â 
   add modern Liberty Belle, Montreux,    and diesel Vevey, Italie and Helvetie, also static Neuchatel and    Fribourg
Alistair  

UNITED_STATES (21) - Arkansas II#    (1940); Becky Thatcher# (1927); Belle of Louisville# (1914); Captain    Merriweather Lewis (1932); City of Clifton# (1936); Delta Queen# (1926);    Eppleton Hall (1914); Eureka (1890); Geo. M. Verity# (1927); Jean# (1938);    Logsdon# (1941); Lone Star# (1922); Minnesota Centenniel Showboat # (1890);    Montgomery# (1926); Portland# (1947); Ticonderoga (1906); W P Snyder Jr#    (1918); W T Preston# (1939); Wake Robin# (1926); William M Black (1934);    William S Mitchell (1934)

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[steamboatmodel]

A couple of minor corrections off the top of my head:

CANADA (7) - Segwun (1887);
Actually a twin-screw steamer rebuilt in the 1920's from the 1887 sidewheeler Nipissing.

..............
Richard Jenkins

Hi Richard,
The last time I was on the Segwun I only remember one screw.
http://www.muskokasteamships.com/mss-ships.htm
Regards
PS You are correct it was the Wanda III I was remembering.
Gerald.

[AlistairD]

Definitely two screws, and the two engines run in  opposite directions, one runs forward and one backwards, because of the way they  were installed
 She was originally the paddle steamer NIPISSING
 Â 
 Alistair
 Â 
 

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   To: preserved@paddleducks.co.uk (preserved@paddleducks.co.uk)    
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   Subject: RE: LIST OF PADDLERS
   

   

   
         
       rjenkins wrote:

     
       A couple of minor corrections off the top of my          head:

CANADA (7)          - Segwun (1887);
Actually a          twin-screw steamer rebuilt in the 1920's from the 1887 sidewheeler          Nipissing.

..............
Richard      Jenkins



Hi    Richard,
The last time I was on the Segwun I only remember one screw.    
http://www.muskokasteamships.com/mss-ships.htm
Regards
Gerald.



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