James' boat

[paddlesteamerman1]

See how the sides of the Storer Boat rise about 1/3 of the way up from the stern? Is it possible to build paddles and wheel housing on the side of that with sponson decks? And would the sponson decks need to be lowered to accommodate for the rise in the wall??
And help is greatly appreciated!!

[paddlesteamerman1]

I was looking on Ebay Anth, And I found a 1920's Portland Harbour Masters Row Boat on the site, it says that it has no rot in the hull, but needs restoration. I will post a few pictures on here so people can have a look and see if it is possible!!

Thanks for the Ebay hint!!!!!






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  price:  AU $800.00  
 

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Item location: North Goulburn, Victoria, Australia
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This boat is a 1920 Portland Harbour Master RowBoat, very solid and beautifully made. But needs restoration, so would suit an enthusiast that would like to restore this beauty to her original glory.

There have been seats made for her, seats six  and also a 1969 outboard is included with petrol tank. There is no rot the boat has been taken out of storage to be photographed.

Dimensions are: Length: 14Ft    Width (widest point) : 5.7ft     Depth:2.6Ft

If you would like  more photos let me know and if you have any other questions just ask away.!!!

[anth]

I wouldn't recomend it if there was...... I feel it's perfect for the price and the size it has a good  beam traditonal clinker planking,just need's some sanding and painting.......... and some paddle wheels.
your not really going to find to many of these boats around that don't require some work.if i was you just bite the bullet


cheers anthony

[paddlesteamerman1]

Today, on the 16th of November 2006 the PS Sarah-Jane has been born!!
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :party :party      :yeah    :clap2      
I JUST GOT MY HULL FOR THE PS SARAH-JANE
How awesome is it!!!!!
This 14' long hull was built in 1920 (historical aspect) and only cost me $800!!
I am so happy and excited now!!!
It was my X-mas   from my entire family, but I know I have a lot of work ahead of me!!!
I think it looks brilliant, with the very visible planking and the wood looks good. I will just have to wait and see how it is when I pick it up, not sure when that is though...
A massive THANKS to ANTH for pointing this one out to me!! I wouldnt even have it if it weren't for you!! Thanks Anth
Now, starts the real thing, and watch out for bombardment  :boom with questions.
And I even have my very own workshop/shed to put her in and work on her, as we now have a few spare on the farm after a loss of a tenant that was living here!!! WHOOOOOOOOO!!!  

Thanks Everyone!!!!

[michael]

Hey James very jealous!!! She is a very smart looking boat and for its age, and condition its in you couldn't get much better. Now you just have to do a great job on her, no short cuts!!

[paddlesteamerman1]

Dont worry Michael, there will be NO shortcuts done on her!! I am going to try and make her look the best I can possible do!!
Just one problem already, I need to get her from North Goulbourn (Victoria) to Ararat. I am working on that now though.
My first job will to be to float her in a shallow dam (not by choice, the drought supplied us with a very shallow dam) and see if there are any leaks, although the seller said there wasnt. Then it will be, if there are leaks to fix them, if not then to strip the paint away, sand it and then start painting and waterproofing the hull.
Is that the right way? I hope so, just watch out for the trillions of questions I will be asking you experienced boat builders...
I thought that for her age, the quality was nothing to complain about, and I think that I could make her look beautiful (hopefully to look as beautiful as her namesake !!!)
I cant wait to start work on her!!

[anth]

No prop's james,you  will have many ours of fun (sanding :rant ) ha ha
as I said to sean once you get her measured  start drawing some plans.
 :luck

cheers Anthony

[paddlesteamerman1]

Yeah, I was thinking that there is a lot of sanding to be done, and knowing my luck I will be the one with the electric sander that has a wish to want to sand my fingers off ( :rant )
As soon as she gets to our farm, and I have proper measurements, the plans will start!!
I was actually thinking along the lines of Sean's Grebe, I think that his boat will look fantastic!!
Hopefully I can get a good plan together!!
Thanks once again for all your help, and every ounce of luck I will need!!

[paddlesteamerman1]

Well, it turns out that my hull is in Echuca!! The seller lives in Echuca, and says that we can pick it up any time, but Mum and Dad are going try to pick it up this weekend!! Hopefully when I come back from a friends house I might see a boat somewhere?!?
What are my first steps once I have the hull, after measuring it and planning and all the calculations.
I would think that I have to strip all the paint of and sand it all again, so I can start layering it in... ummmmm.. I dont know (apart from paint)

[thewharfonline]

Yep it will be to strip her...well floating could be good...see what she looks like in the water...see if there are any issues but it sounds like she's in good nick!

Scraping back the paint is very important...it will show what condition the boat is like underneath decieving paint! For instance we discover Grebe has a nice patch on the side of her hull where she have begun to rot or was holed at some stage.

Once that is done you'll need to fill any gaps in the wood etc. I don't know about clinkers and restoration too much...look out for rot and get rid of it. I believe replacing planks will be easier for you compared to my boat which is not clinker and as such just large panels of wood but I don't know exactly.

Once all is stripped back and filled and fixed and repaired you can move on to the next step!

Hooray for your new 'old' boat. She looks swell (ooo a boat joke!)! Good luck with restoration.

[paddlesteamerman1]

Thanks Sean!!
Maybe Sarah-Jane and Grebe will meet someday,
And I know I have an awful lot of work ahead of me, but Roderick sent me an email with some very good points about displacement etc...
Good Jokes to!!

[paddlesteamerman1]

Today is the moment of truth!! Mum and Dad are picking my boat up from Echuca, if anyone Kerri Bartsch (I think may be a relation to Alan because she said a river boat captain will be there today to help). We are towing the boat from Echuca to Home on a car trailer (but is only 10' long and the boat is 14' long). It also comes with a 1969 motor, so may be I can connect it to a drive shaft instead of having to buy a new motor or putt putt motor!!
I am so excited, should be great.....
I will see the boat tomorrow, as I had made plans before I bought the boat and cant get out of them!!
I will keep you up to date and will post some photos as soon as I can!!

[thewharfonline]

It does sound like it could be Alan James.

With a 1920's boat are you still sure you want to restore her and then make her a paddler...I'd want to restore and have her all nice again in historic condition! I know my boat is a kit boat so I have no problems paddlerising mine. Make sure you think about this befoer you go cutting into anything!

The other thing you'll find is that the perfect 'plan' for your boat will come when you actually see the hull and think about it. The Grebe plans possibly won't work, especially as your boat has no (bad boating terminology coming up) front deck doohicky like Grebe has where I am going to attach the cabin etc! Your's might look better with a canopy like Rusty without the cabin...who knows! That's up to you to draw them up and think about it when you get the boat! Believe me something will hit you and you'll want that then!

Just take the time to think and finish her off properly...I wouldn't want to wreck a 1920's boat! Just think you're fixing a boat the age of Alexander Arbuthnot and the C24 Barge!

[michael]

Yeah good point Sean, I'd be thinking twice about converting it to a paddler, especailly at that age, I guess all you can do is stick it in the water and dream on!!! Thats why my boat isn't a paddler, not as old but she wouldn't look right with wheels.
I'm suprised I never heard about that hull since I'm in Echuca every day, I know my mate has a identical boat, clinker and used by a fisherman in Renmark, he said I could have it, but she has alot of BIG gaps between its planks, maybe when I know a bit more I might try it

[anth]

boats of this age and style are more common than you think.. .......obviously the condition vary's ...historical signficance is very doubtful.
The fact of it's age means the quality of construction is different you will find copper rivet and roves holding the ribs and planks together no marine ply fibreglass just a classic well made hull of 1920's era
barges and paddle boats and any other vessel of value usually have a history associated with them  thats the difference.  

These rowing boat's are common to most seafaring towns I have turned 3 down in the last 2 mths.....so I can't see how james converting his hull will effect it's value or  historical significance in any way. :?  .

I have to disagree about the hull suiting paddle wheels to me it could look like a little fishing paddler which once served the river systems and yes I have seen pictures of them as a clinker hull not carvel.
the fact that it is a 1920's hull gives it little more nostalga of what once was.
I am not have a go at anyone so please don't misinterpret this .this is just my opion at the end of the day james will make his own desicion :wink:


 :luck  anthony