Mostly off-topic stuff about models of steam locomotives—

[frankmcneilll]

– but not completely, because the first paddle wheel ships were made by installing steam engines for locomotives.
Go to: http://www.nmia.com/%7Evrbass/ for on/off topic stuff.

[AlistairD]

Rubbish
 The first paddle wheel ships, North River of Clermont in the  USA and Comet in Europe, were built before locomotives were  invented
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 Alistair
 

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– but not completely, because the first paddle wheel    ships were made by installing steam engines for locomotives.
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[Pete B.]

Alistair,

Your "Rubbish" comment is only partially correct. The North River and Comet were not the first steamboats. There were a few steamboats in Europe before the Comet including Jouffroy & Fulton in France and a few before before the North River in America. Boats by Morey, Rumsey Fitch preceded Fulton's.

The Comet (1814?) and the North River (AUG 1807) were the first SUCCESSFUL commercial steamboats. That's where you erred! The first steam locomotive was circa 1814

[RickF]

Without wanting to become involved in the above argument/discussion, I feel I ought to point out that the earliest steam locomotive was built in 1804 by Richard Trevithick and Andrew Vivian.

it ran on the Penydarren tramway in Wales.

Rick

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's -   : whats all this CROSS talk about....:?:  :idea:  :?: .. all I can suggest is that  history  :computer confirms.....

Richard Trevithick's invention is considered the first tramway locomotive, however, it was a road locomotive, designed for a road and not for a railroad

From where I sit in OZ, I cannot see any paddle wheels attached  be it rail or road :music   -   Derek