Building Paddle Tug RELIANT

[Khephre]

He drew the design freehand using computer software and used that to laser cut thin adhesive-backed vinyl into the scroll design (lovely buttercup yellow). We used the old National Maritime Museum display as a starting point and worked from there. Fantastic stuff, and it only cost me a couple of Custard and Apricot Danishes and a Lemon Tart!

A bit ostentatious for an 'umble working South Shields tug, though! Next thing the skip'll be selling tickets for day trips!

[derekwarner_decoy]

Eddie - I heve seen the golden scrolls on Tony's Reliant bow directly via e-mail out side of PD's, but it is not showing up here??? - regards Derek

[Eddy Matthews]

Eddie - I heve seen the golden scrolls on Tony's Reliant bow directly via e-mail out side of PD's, but it is not showing up here??? - regards Derek

It displays perfectly to me Derek - Have you checked your computer/firewall settings to make sure that "pop-ups" are allowed?

[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD’s – Eddie it is an electronic pagination issue – at the time of the message I scrolled onto last or next & read the text, but the attachment .snp was in the previous page – no drama – I just thought Tony was following a twisting type things by on of his far gone Scottish mate – you know – like liquid paper on the PC monitor screen to correct spelling errors!! - Derek  
         
 
From: Eddy Matthews [mailto:construction@paddleducks.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2005 12:20 AM
 To: construction@paddleducks.co.uk
 Subject: RE: Building Paddle Tug RELIANT  
 
             
derekwarner_decoy wrote:            
Eddie - I heve seen the golden scrolls on Tony's Reliant bow   directly via e-mail out side of PD's, but it is not showing up here??? -   regards Derek        
 

 
 It displays perfectly to me Derek - Have you checked your computer/firewall settings to make sure that "pop-ups" are allowed? <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]>      
 

 Regards
 Eddy
 
 
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[Khephre]

No Derek, that's my Irish side all the way from Raphoe Donegal -- fait' an' begorrah  

Can hardly read the forum for all the correction fluid; mental note to self - need to buy (yet another) PC screen!

[crash93]

Who is the supplier of the plan? and does anybody know where I can get some brass Paddles or detailed plans for them thanks
this is a picture of a alternate way of making tow bows they are made by cuting a bow shape and soldering a top on I found that easyer than trying to bend a solid  it could be made in plastercard just as easy

 Peter

[Khephre]

I used David McGregor's plans. Plus photos of Reliant in Neptune Hall.

Tony

[crash93]

Thank you for that info ill see what I can get. I have the P N Thomas book that has some info in so ill go through that again. Im trying to get info together before I start this time as the last two build have been started and then stoped to correct mistakes as info came in. can I just ask what is " Neptune Hall" and do you know of any fiberglass hulls 36" To 46 " as I would like to go down the steam route as I have with my other boats  thanks  Peter

[PJ]

Hi Peter:
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 Metcalfe Mouldings used to make a 1:48 fibreglass hull  dxecribed as follows:
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 Item #673 P.S. RELIANT,Steam  Paddle Tug, 1907, 55 GBP
 This super detailled hull is a model for all those who love  paddlers. The steam paddle tug "RELIANT" was built in 1907 as the P.S. OLD  TRAFFORD, being named after an area near to the Manchester Ship Canal where she  spent the early years of her working life, being sold for further use as a  harbour tug at Seaham.
 
Our hull features all representative plate lines, sponson  support pads, panama ports, hawse pipe holes and scrolls, and the stern rubbing  strake all `moulded in'.  
Each hull is supplied complete with comprehensive full-size two  sheet plans by David MacGregor, showing details of her appearance and include  details of her previouse apperance as OLD TRAFFORD.  
This actual ship was on display in the National Maritime Museum,  Greenwich for many years. More suited to a builder of some experience.  
Measurements  

• Model Scale = 1:48.    
• Length....26.1/2".    
• Beam....5.1/2".

David Metcalfe has scaled doen his operation and it looks like  he almost only builds to order, but his hull is a fine one, expecially since  it has  plating detail. 
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 Neptune Hall is the location where "Reliant" was once  displayed at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich before they  unceremoniously destroyed her (don't get me started!) in defiance of  all maritime conservation protocol.
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 All that remains of her today at the NMM is one stumpy  paddlewheel with all the feathering blades removed which wouldn't  even illustrate to a 5 year old what a paddle tug might have looked like.  The story of Relaint/Old Trafford is indeed a sorry one.
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 BTW.  Do you have the book issued originally  (proudly) published by the NMM called "New Order, Old Thing" which is a must for  anyone interested in this paddler?
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 Our friend, Stuart Badger in the UK, made a magnificent model  of "Old Trafford" and he's always been very helpful in answering questions about  making the model. Do you have the URL for the website which  has pictures of his model build?
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 Regards
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 PJ
 Victoria, BC Canada
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Thank you for that info ill see what I can get. I have    the P N Thomas book that has some info in so ill go through that again. Im    trying to get info together before I start this time as the last two build    have been started and then stoped to correct mistakes as info came in. can I    just ask what is " Neptune Hall" and do you know of any fiberglass hulls 36"    To 46 " as I would like to go down the steam route as I have with my other    boats thanks Peter



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[derekwarner_decoy]

Hi PD's & thanks Peter for the .jpg snap - from this I see you are a true artisan in soft soldering brass and so compliments  :clap2 to your work

Could you please share with us... do you use GAS flame or an electric soldering device :?: .... what type of flux :?: - I am sure other PD members will confirm detail of PS Reliant etc......regards Derek

[crash93]

The solder Iron I use is a weller ds801 desolder station.its old abt 10 years or so. It enables me to solder and then remove all the excess.

the boat picture I posted was of my hs tug it was posted because of the tow bows
the flux I use is Backers solder flux its an acid but works better than any I have tried.  Peter

[AlistairD]

 
Thank you for that info ill see what I can get. I have    the P N Thomas book that has some info in so ill go through that again. Im    trying to get info together before I start this time as the last two build    have been started and then stoped to correct mistakes as info came in. can I    just ask what is " Neptune Hall"

   
Neptune's Hall was the main display area    of the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, where RELIANT, or the majority    of her,  was on display, until the area was redeveloped a few years ago    and the museum took RELIANT to pieces and managed to lose or mislay    her.  
Alistair

[crash93]

Sorry my last post should have read  "Bakers soldering fluid NO 3" sorry for that. Peter

[derekwarner_decoy]

Thanks Peter - I use the same "Bakers" solder/tinning fluid here in OZ, the one with 40% zinc chloride, only problem is the fumes tend to get up your  :nose  &  brings tears to the .....:sob - The Yorkshire paste alternative is only 27% zinc chloride, but I don't like the residue

When you get time, please post more snaps of Tug Boat ?, if the soldering is any thing to go by the rest should be   - Derek

PS - did I see a line of conflict between the steering chain on the STDB side & a dual bollard :?:  :?:  :?:

[crash93]

derekwarner_decoy. This may answer your question Or may not together with the e-mail I have sent you