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Title: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 09, 2015, 07:17:38 AM
Hello everyone .

It`s been sometime since I have visited , and i had forgotten how good this forum really is !

Regardless , I have started my river boat build .Sadly not a paddler .Many reasons for that.

Not sure where to post this , or if anyone would even be interested .

Here are some pictures , and a build gallery .

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/105336095@N04/sets/72157643738718083/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105336095@N04/sets/72157643738718083/)



Moderators help is needed , If not appropriate to post this please delete , or ,  could you advise where to put this ?
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Eddy Matthews on February 09, 2015, 07:34:05 AM
That looks really nice - How long has it taken to get to that stage?

Please feel free to keep posting in this area, I'm sure there will be lots of members who will be interested in your progress...

Regards
Eddy
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 09, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
Hello Mr Matthews , and thank you for the kind words.

I am building this humble craft entirely by myself , and work on it whenever I can , so it has been a relatively slow build .

The project was started in September 2013.

I am presently working on insulating and lining the interior , and a relatively basic fit out.



This is some of the seating. It  is hinged to allow access to storage , and the  hatches in the floor that give access to the Floats.

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Framing and fitting out the bathroom has started

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 09, 2015, 11:50:38 PM
Your project is looking really good something to be very proud of.

Cheers Damien.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 10, 2015, 04:38:57 AM
Hello fellow Aussie ! :)

Thank you for the kind words Damian.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Roderick Smith on February 10, 2015, 04:56:54 PM
What location for what rivers?  I am on the grass on a trailer for Goolwa next week.  The organisers really want part-finished wooden for the grass display, and this would suit well.  Send a hasty email, and you could well be in at last minute.  Hunt on Goolwa Wooden Boat Festival for an address.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 10, 2015, 06:09:27 PM
Hi Roderick .

The boat is located near Mannum.

This boat is 40 ft ( 12metres) in length , and 12 ft  ( 3.6 metres ) wide.

 7.1 short ton (6500 kg ) displacement.

It would quite difficult  logistically to organize a crane and low loader at short notice .

Quite expensive to transport I`m afraid.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat - Lining the bathroom.
Post by: victor vector on February 18, 2015, 03:17:10 AM
Mini Orb pre painted corrugated steel cladding lines the bathroom.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Bob Golder on February 18, 2015, 03:24:52 AM
Roderick, why not present a board with Victor's photos instead of the prototype?  ;)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Gerhardvienna on February 18, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
Hi Victor
WHAT A GREAT BOAT!
Wish it were mine ;D
Regards from Vienna
Gerhard
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 19, 2015, 01:44:14 AM
Hi Gerhard ,

Thanks for the kind words.

The bathroom lining is now in place , and the next job is trimming out the windows .

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Gerhardvienna on February 19, 2015, 03:26:10 AM
Great job well done! I LIKE IT  :bravo :bravo :bravo
Cannot wait to see her swim...............
Regards
Gerhard
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: steamboatmodel on February 21, 2015, 02:38:08 AM
How are you going to handle the waste water??
Regards,
Gerald.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 21, 2015, 03:22:48 PM
Hi Gerald.

Waste water will be contained in a long cylindrical tank strapped under the bridge deck .

It consists of a 12 inch diameter ( 300 mm ) thick walled sewer pipe fitted with end caps.

Capacity is over 700 liters , so will be placed along the center line of the boat to prevent the substantial weight from listing the boat.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 25, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
I am painting the windows and working on the bathroom vanity unit.

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I have a collection of old (  salvaged )  western red cedar louvered doors.

I am cutting these down to the required height to make the doors for the vanity unit.

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Some of them look a little sad and dirty , but after some careful sanding and a new coat of paint they look quite respectable I think .

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These still need to trimmed to final size , but I propped them on blocks so you could see how they will look after being fitted.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on February 25, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Hi PD's...........many years ago, we travelled to Mannum & viewed the build of multi/mega story & $ flat bottomed vessels under construction....some appeared to have twin MERcrusier Z drives ....some sponsons for conventional outboard drives

This build by Victor appears to be of beautiful  :kiss1 ...& I do like the use of our OZ Custom Mini-Orb painted steel sheeting :bravo

Looking forward to view the continued build here on PD's  Victor.......could I ask what type of drive do you have planned?

Derek :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 25, 2015, 05:52:51 PM
Hi Derek ,

I plan on using a 50 HP four stroke ( high thrust ) Yamaha (  or Honda )  outboard .

The high thrust motors are geared down and propped  to push harder.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 09, 2015, 07:01:37 AM
Still painting , and plumbing in hot and cold water lines.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 09, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
Plumbing fixtures are kept to a minimum.

Braided Flexi - Tails connect the mixer taps of the basin and shower.

The water lines are JG ( John Guest )  push on RV water lines and fittings.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 13, 2015, 04:01:21 AM
Sanding , filling , painting.....lots of sanding ....

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 17, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
The little riverboat is getting plumbing.

These John Guest push on fittings make connecting the plumbing a snap.
Lighter, faster, and cheaper than copper.


John Guest plumbing : So simple it`s ridiculous.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 17, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
Coming along nicely  :) :)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 19, 2015, 02:25:33 AM
Slowly Damien , slowly......
and thank you for the interest .

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 19, 2015, 02:39:24 AM
Recycled and modified western red cedar bathroom door .

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 19, 2015, 02:47:01 AM
I used some old recycled louvered doors to make a circular vent for the door.

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What I really like about these doors is that they were made by a real cabinet maker , old school fashion.

I was not able to clearly photograph them , but there are actually very faint pencil marks all over these doors marking the location of the rails and stiles ,
and the marking out of the mortises and tenons , and hinges. These were not made by an automated CNC machine.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 19, 2015, 02:07:27 PM
The tiles for the river boat bathroom have been selected .

We chose a peel and stick vinyl tile for ease of laying , and substantial weight saving over a ceramic tile.

This is what they will look like :

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The vanity doors still need to be planed down at little to make them fit correctly.
They are propped up temporarily to take this picture.

Endless little jobs .......
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 24, 2015, 11:28:45 PM
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Hardwood door sill is fitted , the door jambs and stops are in place , door hinges fitted , and door was trial hung for fit.

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Painting the bathroom door.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Roderick Smith on March 25, 2015, 09:20:40 AM
I had to look twice to compare this boat with the external view of Victor's boat at the start of the thread.  Similar, but not the same.
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Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 25, 2015, 08:06:07 PM
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Bathroom door is completed.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 25, 2015, 08:13:24 PM
  :great :great :great
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 25, 2015, 08:27:12 PM
Thank you for the interest Damian.

I`m thinking you would all be bored by now.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 25, 2015, 08:43:29 PM
Never tire of other folks creations mate. :yeahbaby
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on March 25, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
Victor........many members are watching your :hammer creation.....Derek  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 31, 2015, 09:05:16 PM
Hello again , to everyone still following.

I have started framing in the  built in beds.

These are pictures of the bed base / mattress support for the forward cabin.

90 x 35 pine studs ripped in half.

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It can be seen that these are put together in just about the simplest way possible.

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Epoxy glue with one screw to hold the simple joint in place while the epoxy sets up.

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Hinging mattress base has been glued and screwed together on left .
Narrow frame is about to be assembled , it will be fixed to the wall .
4 inch ( 100 mm )  butt hinges will be placed between them allowing the mattress and base to be tilted up to gain access to the hatches in the floor.




 
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 02, 2015, 06:22:34 PM
Installing the hinged bed base.

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4 x 4 inch ( 100 mm ) door butt hinges hold the base very rigid.

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Bed base folded up.

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2 x 2 inch ( 50 x 50 mm )  struts stabilize the frame along the wall.

They can just be seen below the frame.

I stood on the frame along the wall and it all feels very rigid and strong.


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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 23, 2015, 07:30:10 PM
Hello again Duckers ,
Work has continued on fitting out the front cabin.


A plywood mattress support has been fitted to the bed base .

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These are some pre - painted panels to be fitted to the hanging space in the forward cabin.

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I have also made some small canister style drawers to store small items such as keys , USB sticks , batteries , phones ,  and chargers.

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Assembling the storage spaces .On the left is a hanging space for clothes , the smaller central locker with the circular vent will house the circuit breakers for the 240 volt mains power supply.On the right another hanging locker for clothes.In the centre are the small canister drawers for all those small items I often " loose "

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Small storage

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Things are slowing down a little as the cold weather is starting to make it`s presence felt.

The epoxy glue and paint is taking much longer to set .
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on April 24, 2015, 07:52:57 PM
Well all be waiting expectantly for any progress Ballarat is already under 15c most days & I haven't been in the shed much.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 25, 2015, 05:16:37 PM
Bed fitted .

Too cold for paint , the dark filler that can be seen is still soft after four hours !


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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 27, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
Slow progress on making small items

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Laminated hardwood top for the bedside drawer.


The water based enamel leaches out some of the hardwood tannins on the first coat or two.


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More pictures soon.


Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 30, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Making small items again....

The bedside drawer is completed ready to install.

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9mm Meranti marine plywood drawer held together with an epoxy fillet.
Very strong.

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Fillet is sanded , then paint , add some roller runners , and we have a drawer.

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Some minor touch ups required , then it`s ready to install.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 01, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
Bedside drawer is fitted in place.

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Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 21, 2015, 03:54:43 PM
Hello everyone.

Some pictures of  progress made to the rear cabin.

Bed base has been completed , and I have started the framing for the shelving to house some audio - visual equipment


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8740/17623918336_7a103384dd_c.jpg)

Bed base framing.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5321/17695770919_a00c3cdfff_c.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5337/17882029355_985a721b9d_c.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/17298569504_efcec823cf_c.jpg)

Framing the lower shelf.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8775/17895762536_80d71ab793_c.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5463/17893406876_8b23cb0711_c.jpg)

Wall panels have been installed.The small panel at bottom right is removable to gain access to the plumbing " tees " to the bathroom.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5463/17894748466_2f798b762c_c.jpg)

Upper shelving yet to be installed.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 21, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7680/17923224475_00098e31c7_c.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5343/17923813401_783a03419d_c.jpg)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8771/17896730936_49fc8e34f6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on May 21, 2015, 07:44:35 PM
Hey Victor....that cast iron pot belly stove will sure burn   :ranting  some Murray river red gum timber  Derek  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 22, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
Hi Derek ,

Yes , it should be quite  cosy and warm once its fired up ..... some of  that heat would have been nice with today`s cold southerlies blowing straight through that rear deck door way .... :).


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7526/15938294477_e961deae6a_b.jpg)

I was thinking maybe coal ......would be more compact to store .......if I could actually find some ???????
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 22, 2015, 11:19:40 AM
 Briquettes would store easily if stacked in a suitable container I hope there is a metal plate or fire bricks under the pot belly to safe guard against ooop's
I'm really enjoying this build many thank for sharing.

Damien.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 22, 2015, 01:52:40 PM
Briquettes would store easily if stacked in a suitable container I hope there is a metal plate or fire bricks under the pot belly to safe guard against ooop's
I'm really enjoying this build many thank for sharing.

Damien.

Hi Damian ,

Where does one go to buy Briquettes in Adelaide ( may seem a totally dumb question . so apologies in advance , but I have never really had the need to even think about such things .Were this a house proper , I would go with Derek`s idea , ( Red river gum ) .The fire would have to be started like that any way , but I was thinking with coal or briquettes I could keep it going slow over night ,as this stove is small ( firebox is at least ).

Under that little  stove I intend to put down some slate , and a metal heat shield around the adjacent walls , air spaced , also behind that flue .

Thanks for the interest , I`ll keep posting as much as i can.
It`s hard to keep enough momentum to get enough work done to show .

Sometimes I think it all gets too boring ...... :-\
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 22, 2015, 02:25:58 PM
You could try here, if not they should know where to get them.

Heatworks BBQ & Heating Centre
Barbecues & Barbecue Equipment - Norwood, SA

126 Magill Rd, Norwood SA 5067

Damien,.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 23, 2015, 08:02:15 PM
Thanks mate , I will check those guys out .

I got bored one day , about a decade ago now , and made this somewhat rustic looking side board .
It`s made entirely out of discarded pallets , and the top is salvaged Oregon ( Douglas Fir ).

(http://i.imgur.com/Qmw46JA.jpg)

Today I decided to cut it in half and make two smaller cabinets out of it , to keep my coffee supplies on board the river boat.

(http://i.imgur.com/emuugNY.jpg)

Chopping up the side board.


(http://i.imgur.com/6TnZUNK.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 23, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
I cut out the doors to insert glazing and rebated the back with my router.

(http://i.imgur.com/pZ8yLn0.jpg)

Two additional sides are required for the two cabinets , so the back panel was cut up and used.

Four additional legs cut from pine complete the " mods ".


Here is the first one , it still needs to be re - finished with paint and varnish , but this is its intended use .

The glazing is scrap perspex.

(http://i.imgur.com/BOZ2zYW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7uXl1Uj.jpg)

I like my real coffee
:)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Roderick Smith on May 25, 2015, 01:13:53 PM
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/AU/briquettes.html

I had thought that Victorian brown-coal ones were out production, following a fire in the Morwell plant (Yallourn had been closed and demolished years earlier).
Miniature live-steam operators use industrial char: more compact and less ash.

Roderick B Smith
retired editor
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 25, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
Thanks Roderick

Since I`m not about to import any coal via alibaba , it looks like I`m back to red gum......any one see the irony of not being able to buy coal for a little stove  in Australia ????
;)

Australia , the world`s largest coal exporter.

(http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2011.11.25/AustraliaCAB_CoalExports.png)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 25, 2015, 06:56:49 PM
That'd be why I couldn't find specific supplies on the net or yellow pages thanks for the heads up Roderick.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 02, 2015, 07:55:05 PM
Hello everyone .

I have started to fit the pieces together in the rear cabin.


This is the access panel to the plumbing under the bath.


(http://i.imgur.com/Tk9lYOA.jpg)

Lower shelf framed and closed in with construction plywood.First coat of paint.

(http://i.imgur.com/zbJEos3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/t1reSJj.jpg)

I`m trying hard to make sure there are no small gaps or spaces where the plumbing pierces the walls , to keep out rodents .
Rats have been known to chew up plastic plumbing on boats.



(http://i.imgur.com/TgphBlZ.jpg)

Small cabinet attached to lower shelf with screws. This little cabinet will have to be removed later to lay down the carpet.


(http://i.imgur.com/IrBVVIK.jpg)

Upper shelving for audio / visual equipment will be fixed in place next.

(http://i.imgur.com/7QkNFEK.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on June 10, 2015, 08:51:49 PM
 :no1b :no1b
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 12, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
This will be the last of the shelving inside the cabin space.

I was trying to get a look similar to the old train luggage racks .

I could not find cast iron brackets that I liked the look of , so I sketched out my own.


(http://i.imgur.com/lUhZdGG.jpg)

Rough free hand sketch of the intended wall brackets.

(http://i.imgur.com/DWzlchz.jpg)

I cut out the shapes with the jig saw from 9mm marine plywood.

(http://i.imgur.com/6Umqq0g.jpg)

I cleaned up the first plywood bracket and painted it to use as the pattern for the other three .

The top slats were assembled and the brackets epoxy filleted on.


(http://i.imgur.com/VDB1Nj7.jpg)

I then checked for over all scale by propping it on the wall between the port side windows.


(http://i.imgur.com/QInzz8B.jpg)

It looked ok to me , so I completed the assembly of the " luggage racks " and started painting them.



(http://i.imgur.com/ivk6Qmu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/imjSReq.jpg)

More to come , (hopefully soon ).

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on June 13, 2015, 07:34:27 AM
It looks great  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 13, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
There will be a light panel set into the shelf bracket , and a place to mount some hooks.

(http://i.imgur.com/AQWtZey.jpg)

Partially cut out light panel.

Same story again , there was a rough sketch and the panel is jig - sawed out of 9 mm ply .

(http://i.imgur.com/jniocaT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CFPILox.jpg)






A rough idea of panel placement and position of hooks.I intend to use 12 Volt  warm white  flexible Led lighting strip .This will be used as ambient lighting only.

A touch of the art deco style can be seen in the light panel.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 14, 2015, 01:56:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EYI3IO8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ARR3KRM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/iUS1Rmb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1XjrRNK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/W9yK2Ez.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TarM1SN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VXy4dqF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IdOWpmV.jpg)

Working on the light panel.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on August 29, 2015, 05:21:52 PM
Hello everyone ,

I had a two month break ,it`s been too cold down here to get much done ,  frost and ice .......

I have started work on the waste water tanks .

15.2 m of 300 mm Diameter  pipes and end caps make up the tanks .

( 50 ft of 12 inch water pipe )

(http://i.imgur.com/5HYkzOL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/izSkhD8.jpg)

50 ft of pipe and end caps. Expensive .


Total capacity is 1100 litres , or 290 US Gallons.



(http://i.imgur.com/1lLU8rg.jpg)

End caps are drilled with a 50 mm hole saw ( 2 inch ) , and threaded to receive the threaded DWV fittings

(http://i.imgur.com/atQCFLl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lylfoRV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bud8QJr.jpg)


The fittings are supported by generous fillets of 2 pack epoxy Plumber`s putty. Very strong!
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on August 29, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
The pipes will be strapped below the deck beams , as a pair .

They will be suspended from a pair of 150 mm ( six inch ) C- Channels.

(http://i.imgur.com/ch9MHgR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IULaW4b.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6fGTbDw.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on August 29, 2015, 05:40:07 PM
Coming along well.  :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on August 29, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
Hi Damian ,

Are things as cold in Adelaide ?....I`m over winter myself .... :)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on August 29, 2015, 09:19:12 PM
Well and truly over it our coldest night was -6.7c coldest in 20 odd years.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on August 31, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
Working out the pipe runs for the flush out.

(http://i.imgur.com/NxrTDn0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9e5GxGk.jpg)

50 mm ( Two Inch ) DWV  (Drainage , Waste , Vent )  Flush - out pipes.

(http://i.imgur.com/U0RllcA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TaDRzOe.jpg)

300 mm DIA ( 12 inches )  x 7.6 m  ( 25 ft ) long x 2 .

Mirror image pairs. 1.1 Metric ton of Waste Water.

(http://i.imgur.com/pm3aoqQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VVp3qkA.jpg)

Extending the steel channel.

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: wagnmkr on August 31, 2015, 09:11:49 PM
Just found this thread and I find it fascinating to say the least. That houseboat should last a very long time the way you have built it.

Cheers

Tom
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on August 31, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
Hi Tom.

I`m trying to do the best job I can , given my limited resources and budget.

I intend to put down my tools after this project , apart from any normally  required maintenance , so long lasting would be good.

Thank you for the interest , and for stopping by.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 04, 2015, 03:30:24 PM
Bending up the straps for the waste water tanks.

(http://i.imgur.com/m5mMcLF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rFVf3QR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/x9RLEW3.jpg)

Cold bent over a simple wooden former.

Final shaping done with a ball - pein hammer

(http://cdn.mscdirect.com/global/images/ProductImages/4097385-23.jpg)



Kill Rust primer on straps.

(http://i.imgur.com/qH4lO0v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RX1rJg5.jpg)

Mounting Bolts 12mm ( 1/2 Inch ) and washer .

(http://i.imgur.com/Q1Ov9LC.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 05, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
Checking straps for fit.

(http://i.imgur.com/VQEGgta.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FSDFSYi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SbMNPU6.jpg)

Good tight fit when the bolts are tightened up.

(http://i.imgur.com/jByZp28.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XbuTwVP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UjXukrm.jpg)

Straps will be spaced at 1200mm ctrs. or 4 ft.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 13, 2015, 04:04:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XcN8LLH.jpg)

Bridge deck tunnel planking above the tanks is now in place.

Left hand C- channel bolts are not yet tightened , so it looks like there is a gap above the channel.

(http://i.imgur.com/Tz8hIQs.jpg)

Bolting up the 150 mm ( 6 inch ) C - Channel.


(http://i.imgur.com/8KUdIkW.jpg)

Tunnel planking plywood edge.

Tunnel planking battens will run along this edge.


(http://i.imgur.com/WWU4r9B.jpg)

Tunnel planking joints are backed with a strip of marine plywood .

I will back out the coach bolts at this beam location , and apply a bead of sealer under the plywood.

(http://i.imgur.com/UF0HEij.jpg)

C Channel in place.

Definitely a two person job.

I worked alone .It was difficult ,  hard work.


(http://i.imgur.com/ogu42jB.jpg)

Hardwood tunnel battens fixed in place.

(http://i.imgur.com/guWOJae.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/unl3MZs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yJ9NVrj.jpg)

Port side tunnel structure is ready to fit plywood.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: herrmill on September 15, 2015, 09:58:26 PM
Very nice craftsmanship!  It wouldn't be too hard to hang a paddlewheel off that stern.  ;)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on September 15, 2015, 10:43:20 PM
Indeed
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 16, 2015, 07:11:56 AM
Very nice craftsmanship!  It wouldn't be too hard to hang a paddlewheel off that stern.  ;)

Thank you for the kind words herrmill .

As much as I would like to , I do not feel that I have the expertise , ability or resources to successfully  fabricate and fit a paddle wheel to this little boat.

Ideally , I would like to see twin hydraulic motors and a small diesel driving a paddle wheel , but presently ,  it seems beyond my means.

And thank you too for still watching , Damian !

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on September 16, 2015, 02:18:56 PM
I'm thoroughly enjoying this build mate great innovation involved.

 :bravo :clap :bravo :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 17, 2015, 01:47:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vgBcvPi.jpg)

Look honey , there is a hole in the floor!

This opening will give access to the top of the tanks to connect the 50 mm ( two inch ) vent pipes .
One vent to each tank.


(http://i.imgur.com/D7TOvCT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vJQkqmf.jpg)

Starboard side vent pipe coming up through the rear deck.


(http://i.imgur.com/5O5mmyi.jpg)

50mm hole cut with hole saw and slightly enlarged with pliers.

I am still waiting on the rubber boot / seal , it will be fitted at the base of the vent.

(http://i.imgur.com/49YwpAx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dzealDl.jpg)

Mandatory bug screen fitted to the vent stack.
Pipe is painted black to aid convection.

Back to work for me.......

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 18, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Vent stacks have been completed , ready to connect to the holding tanks.

(http://i.imgur.com/id1dLH0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hxek3LX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BzJEld3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lSdz3OD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/E9rQpL8.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 21, 2015, 03:13:44 AM
I have made some seals to keep bugs and crawlies out of the void between the deck beams.

(http://i.imgur.com/JAsRmd1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WdKOj14.jpg)

Epoxy coated marine plywood ring. 9 mm ( 3 /8 ) , rubber gasket and 18 mm ( 3/4 inch ) Plywood top ring make up the seal.

Rubber gasket was cut from from a truck inner tube.


(http://i.imgur.com/lU4iAUX.jpg)

Hole for the tank inlet.

(http://i.imgur.com/dpqRRPh.jpg)

First plywood ring is glued and screwed onto tunnel planking from below.


(http://i.imgur.com/rkW6XAj.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 21, 2015, 03:29:05 AM
There are many small things going on that will never be seen on these sorts of projects , such as making simple things like pipe clamps for example.

It took an hour of my time to make thirty of these , but they would have cost $ 90:00 to buy.

(http://i.imgur.com/zx9uFtb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QWymm6c.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sNq8fPC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/osEilE1.jpg)

One of the two 50 mm ( two inch ) waste water vent pipes coming up through the rear deck ,held in place with my home made  pipe clamps.
All of the under floor plumbing waste pipes are also  fixed to the floor with these . Not fancy , but they do the job.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on September 21, 2015, 10:24:04 AM
 :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 21, 2015, 06:14:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/h3DFUm7.jpg)

Tanks are bolted under the bridge deck.

(http://i.imgur.com/Fe4BpO9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cOE7y6y.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/O2GshOu.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 22, 2015, 08:24:55 AM
The tank can be seen inside the plywood seal ring.
That`s the top of the pipe.


(http://i.imgur.com/FMsA0DU.jpg)

An opening will be cut with the hole saw , then tapped and cemented in place.

It`s all a repeat of the way the end caps were done.

A Ferro - Pre plumber`s putty fillet will be applied , and then the seal will be screwed in place .

Some paint too , to clean up all that mess.


(http://i.imgur.com/RvEYFy2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZEpAZGN.jpg)

Left pipe runs to the bathroom hand basin , right to the bath P - trap.

The grey googe is silicone sealant .

I will cast a solid silicone plug around the elbow to form a 25 mm ( one inch ) thick rubber seal.


(http://i.imgur.com/gXvO5V9.jpg)

Almost ready for the end caps.

Back to work for me ....
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on September 22, 2015, 08:46:37 AM
Coming along well.  :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 22, 2015, 08:49:59 AM
Hi Damien .

Cold again here ......:( Southerlies are blowing.....

Don`t want to go out there but I have to......
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on September 22, 2015, 09:44:26 AM
Yeah  same here 6.1c at 9'30am feels like 1.9c springs gone to sleep lol
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 25, 2015, 06:20:47 AM
Joining up the pipe sections.
Primer fluid , solvent cement and plumber`s putty.


(http://i.imgur.com/ZESmUWA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jlQO19Y.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CBsTugn.jpg)

I fitted tension straps in the center of each pipe strap .
50 x 3 mm ( 1/8 x 2 inch ) flat bar again.
They are fixed to the deck beams with coach screws , same as the C - channel.

I was not paying attention , square washer should be below the strap not above.
I fixed it , it had been a long day.

Correctly fitted and tightened coach screws that have been backed out should be discarded.



(http://i.imgur.com/qZaLxUv.jpg)

Longer bolts and lock washers needed here.

(http://i.imgur.com/PXZHaDm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZncFQGg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3RJg0eK.jpg)

Bathroom drain threaded , glued , and puttied in place.

(http://i.imgur.com/GOBjmoK.jpg)

The seal is ready to screw down , and the end caps have been fitted .

(http://i.imgur.com/u52k8Aa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pSeSIKc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CSgCFFB.jpg)

Pump out outlets , bow end of the boat.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on September 30, 2015, 04:09:16 AM
Fitting a new larger sink.

(http://i.imgur.com/PnYOznv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GcLWDot.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kgfBMTh.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 01, 2015, 07:32:36 AM
I have coupled together the two waste tanks so that they fill up at the same rate ,
and to minimize pump outs.


I took a 100 mm DWV ( four Inch ) joiner and cut off one of the collars .

Then I sliced it in half.


(http://i.imgur.com/SNJEJJa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/H248mZj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s0cVKM2.jpg)

The rings are cemented onto some 100 mm ( four inch ) pipe to form a sort of socket.


(http://i.imgur.com/7BbjFLd.jpg)

This is then glued into the back of the end cap and an epoxy putty fillet secures it on the inside.

(http://i.imgur.com/pPOmk6j.jpg)

Once the elbow is glued into place the pipe is held secure and captive without fasteners , which would most likely corrode quickly on the inside of the tank.

(http://i.imgur.com/cLaJAIh.jpg)

A short piece of four inch pipe will connect the tanks together.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 03, 2015, 05:11:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8uOcUOm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e14u0tM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RsoZfPM.jpg)

Stainless steel nylock nuts.

(http://i.imgur.com/BgLEel0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/T1iliNX.jpg)

Plumbing in the two inch ( 50 mm ) vent  pipes.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on October 03, 2015, 10:26:19 AM
 :clap :bravo :clap :bravo  :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 05, 2015, 11:12:07 AM
Hey Damian... are you getting any of that sudden warmth in weather we are getting here in SA ?
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on October 05, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
Yes 31c today 30c tomorrow the it cools for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 11, 2015, 03:30:43 PM
The external door to the rear deck is almost complete.

Same construction as the windows , 3 laminations of 18 x 100 mm ( 3/4 x 4 inch ) hardwood epoxy glued together .

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2948/15308027140_9b7751b55b_z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ihAApSd.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/pGeDr4S.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mOK3SZb.jpg)

Marine plywood infill panel.

(http://i.imgur.com/VUAgT6W.jpg)

Hanging the recycled hardwood front door .

(http://i.imgur.com/Fmc5rIH.jpg)

The pump-out and flush pipes coming up through the front deck.

(http://i.imgur.com/LYMkn03.jpg)

2 x 6 treated pine screwed though 2 x 2 wall framing and hardwood decking with six and four inch batten screws ,and epoxy glued to keep pipes rigid and reduce stress to cemented pipe joints.Pipes were fitted in with a wooden block and hammer .There is a treated pine backing block screwed under the decking.



Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 19, 2015, 03:45:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/henhzoR.jpg)

Camlock pump out fitting.

(http://i.imgur.com/nLSpEEt.jpg)


Bottom to top :

50 mm DWV joiner.

50 > 40 mm reducer.

40mm threaded adaptor.

Camlock fitting.

Camlock fitting plug.

(http://i.imgur.com/k5GHRNb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/iSq2R9u.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on October 19, 2015, 05:04:17 PM
Coming together  :clap  :bravo: clap  :bravo
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on October 19, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
Hullo PD's.....& always watching on Victor  :kewlpics......and robust construction in all areas   :bravo

However I must ask why you are using Master Foods Brand TOMATO sauce as glue  :tongue1

Keep up the good work & images......... Derek  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 19, 2015, 06:12:12 PM
Hi everyone .

Derek ,about  those sauce bottles .....

(http://i.imgur.com/N0U0Rjt.jpg)

I just found it too tiring to squeeze that glue out of that 20 liter bucket. :weight
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on October 19, 2015, 06:44:07 PM
Well that's OK Victor  :whistle...

I understand that the Titebond III is a brilliant glue  :towel   .....however having worked professionally with Lloyds and Det Norske Veritas in marine survey work, best destroy the images of Tomato sauce glue bottles .... Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 19, 2015, 09:53:17 PM
Well that's OK Victor  :whistle...

I understand that the Titebond III is a brilliant glue  :towel   .....however having worked professionally with Lloyds and Det Norske Veritas in marine survey work, best destroy the images of Tomato sauce glue bottles .... Derek

Yes Derek , I`m very pleased with the Titebond`s  performance .
The entire outside walls are covered with canvas set in the Titebond glue .
All 40 liters of it !
Nothing seems to touch the surface at all , from below freezing cold through 40 C heatwaves , relentless sun and occasional rain.
It still looks like the day I first made the wall panels.

Your days at Lloyds and Veritas sound interesting , and working in survey , you have probably picked up numerous mistakes I have made , that I`m not even aware of .Still , I`m doing my best to do a reasonable job given my limited budget  , but if I really mess up with something , feel free to kick my butt ..... :nono
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 25, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/SiZKn1E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jziNZsI.jpg)

Modified front door .

A hardwood stile was inserted at window height , and a rebate cut to accept the lower canvas covered plywood infill panel and glazing above.

(http://i.imgur.com/XuEUogc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KSynNMq.jpg)

Inside view.

(http://i.imgur.com/deVBA8f.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8W99K4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 25, 2015, 08:18:20 AM
Lightweight metal covers for the pipework.


(http://i.imgur.com/s48rUU5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/n5tQGTQ.jpg)

Top plywood cover will hinge for access to camlock fittings.

(http://i.imgur.com/WPyB8iB.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on October 25, 2015, 10:42:04 AM
 :bravo :bravo :no1b :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 25, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
Thank you Damien .

(http://i.imgur.com/irRFLjg.jpg)

I`m hoping when all is painted that the covers will not look too awkward and bulky.
If all else fails I shall resort to the old " put a pot plant on top and soften the look " trick ........ ;)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 27, 2015, 07:58:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wqMr9Oq.jpg)

Insulating and fitting the eaves over the foredeck.

(http://i.imgur.com/OuqFsLQ.jpg)

Some weird angles on those trim pieces.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y3uHEpg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AipG2S5.jpg)

I`m pulling the gutters apart and sealing the joiners with gutter sealant.

Manufacturer claims that they are water tight when just pushed together .
I tapped them together with a wooden block and hammer , making sure that they were fully seated .......you can guess the rest ?
Anyway , this should fix it.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on October 29, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/snodKsH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BoXNbxh.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on November 08, 2015, 10:22:00 AM
Making the mandatory steel guards for the front of the waste water tank.

(http://i.imgur.com/QWVaNmy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/MTdD9fC.jpg)

Setting out.

50 x 50 x 5 mm ( 2 x 2 x 3/16 ) mild steel angle welded together.

(http://i.imgur.com/dew1b7g.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/749Kawi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nZoWfN2.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on November 08, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
 :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on November 17, 2015, 03:49:23 PM
I have started glazing the windows .
The photo shows seven panes fitted along the side of the cabin.

Because of it`s optical clarity , cast acrylic Plexiglass is said to be virtually " invisible " to UV rays .
I used the original german made Plexiglas , it comes with a 30 year non - yellowing guarantee .
Care will be required when cleaning these to prevent scratching.

Plexiglas will represent a 50% weight saving over float glass and will be more flexible .
If the pontoons are pushed onto an uneven bank flex could be an issue.
Plexiglas has 10 X the impact resistance of float glass at 4.5 mm thickness.

Glazing is set into the rebates with butyl mastic , a soft sealant that skins over and is paintable .
It is  used for sealing things on  caravans and mobile homes.


(http://i.imgur.com/MWKvOL9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bnrxaT6.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on December 09, 2015, 08:11:44 PM
Hello Everyone ,
I`m getting into hot water.

I have decided to use a 240 V hot water heater when connected to shore power to save lugging so many gas bottles aboard.This unit is very small and compact at 25 lts ( 6.6 US Gallons ).It will fit neatly under the kitchen bench and not take up much space.
25 lts is not really sufficient for showering for two people , so this little heater`s function is to boost the temperature of some pre heated solar hot water stored up on the shantyboat`s roof.
The pre heater will contain 100 lts ( 26.5 US Gallons ) of hot water that will be plumbed into the cold water inlet of the little water heater.
This is all experimental at this stage , but so far it looks promising.


In principal it`s all very simple , here is illustration of a similar pre heater .

(http://i.imgur.com/5TudGna.png)

These are batch heaters , meaning that the storage and solar collector are combined as one simple unit.
The main advantage is simplicity and some protection from frost ( batch heater volume ).


I anticipate having to provide an insulated cover to protect the pvc pipes from very cold nights frost ( rare here ) , but more importantly , since solar is
a " uncontrolled " energy source , to prevent the collector pipes from over heating on very hot days.


(http://i.imgur.com/OCgLVZk.jpg)

Small electric boost water heater .25 ltrs , ( 6.6 Us Gallons )

(http://i.imgur.com/Lse822k.jpg)

This is a photo of building the solar collector tray. 2 inch foam insulation sandwiched between 1/4 in plywood , reflective foil lining reflects sun`s radiation back towards the back of the black collector tubes..

(http://i.imgur.com/VmC3j28.jpg)

The collector on the left will drop into the box as a complete unit once the box is installed on the roof.

http://i.imgur.com/A9G5aya.jpg

(http://i.imgur.com/Ea53pis.jpg)

3/4 inch plywood pieces retain the collector tubes.

Paint is mat black high temp epoxy.

(http://i.imgur.com/8kd7qRG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/y800KeR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JjS29Hp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/euXxt6H.jpg)

For initial testing , I just filled one black pipe at 8 :30 am ( ambient temp 25 C or 77 F)

4 hours later the water in that four inch pipe was too hot to put your hand into.and would have required tempering down with cold water.

I will require some insulated covers to prevent overheating on really hot days , such as we have just experienced here earlier this week.

That will require some input from me on really hot days to close the covers after heating up the collector , but it`s not a big chore is it really ?

I will need to install some digital temp probes at the collector so that I have some idea of just how hot things are getting in there , but it will just become part of a daily routine of life aboard in summer .
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on December 09, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
 :clap :bravo :bravo :clap :bravo :clap :bravo
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on December 09, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Hullo Victor.......with each posting we continue to see 'good' technology being built in & utilised.......

This is opposed to 'useless' mod cons......... Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on December 10, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
Thank you for the kind words and interest , gentlemen.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on December 10, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
Victor.....with the amount of stored water at elevated temperatures you may wish to consider some low voltage [12 or 24V] ionic protection

I am pretty sure it is a variation on salt water chlorinators for swimming pools.............relies in the minerals [in the equivalent] of domestic tap water & thus the impressed current kills natural bacteria that would send tap water rancid at the elevated temperatures  :41

This would seem preferable over the chemical tablets :nono  that the 4x4 off road people use to maintain the quality of their stored water

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on December 11, 2015, 11:46:27 AM
Hello Derek

Thank you for the comments .

You are absolutely right of course.

I have a friend here that does exactly that and it is deceptively simple to set up.
He treats river water with a small 12 volt charge  and it transforms his murky brown river water to sparkling clear in 24 hours.
It kills virtually all  bacteria and pathogens .He actually drinks that water , and has done so for years .
Personally, I would not , but would not hesitate to use it for ablutions.

I`m having some real bandwidth issues here at the moment , ( school holidays )  so I may not reply promptly at times ,I can only get  wi-fi  where i am , and it`s very prone to drop outs and
at times I cannot even get a connection.

Thanks again for the advice ,you are  spot on !
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on December 16, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
I was hoping to complete my solar collector in the next day or two ......

(http://i.imgur.com/wocP1YM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sYVxYhQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DPN9bEd.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xrchNYB.jpg)

The weather forecast says otherwise :

Today :            40.0 C  ( 104.0  F )
Tomorrow:       42.5 C  ( 108.0  F )
Friday :            41.0 C  (  105.8 F )
Saturday :       43.3 C   (109.4 F )

(http://i.imgur.com/mdUmhGo.png)

Too much for me ......... :(

I did manage to complete some work on the rear deck access door before the heat hit .

(http://i.imgur.com/aIrZ6RG.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Roderick Smith on December 20, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
I whisked through Mannum earlier in the week, collecting my boat from Greenings and heading to the Glenelg.  I knew that I wouldn't have time for a personal inspection, and so didn't ask for a location.  The coming year is a bit quiet for planned downriver events, but there will be ones in Echuca for PS Adelaide's 150th, plus Wentworth Junction Rally (July) plus possibly a rally with the club based at Renmark.
Roderick
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on December 20, 2015, 09:08:23 PM
Merry Christmas to all ,
Thank you for your interest , ( or boredom ) this year.

 See you next year , best wishes

Victor V
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on January 06, 2016, 09:56:43 AM
Happy new year everyone !

I have started work on the water tank that will store river water to supply the shower and hand basin in the bathroom.

My water tank for stored river water is a cut down 200 liter pickle barrel.

(http://i.imgur.com/fceQZyj.jpg)

A 18 mm ( 3/4 inch ) marine plywood ring is placed inside the top of the barrel to restore rigidity .

It will be epoxy coated to render it water proof , then painted.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z8hTKgd.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KhYW4wN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/m9dCXp5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dBvk7SE.jpg)

Top inlet.

(http://i.imgur.com/deRK6rL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ejjhgOD.jpg)

Manual fill pump fixed to the wall.

(http://i.imgur.com/2vhPtyR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/k3ci8cC.jpg)

This is untreated river water .It contains a lot of colloidal clay.

(http://i.imgur.com/IAOeZvw.jpg)

The easiest way to separate the clay deposits is to add a tea spoon of alum.

(http://i.imgur.com/Buh0weO.jpg)

The staff inside the barrel has markings spaced at 150 mm ( six inch ) intervals.

This is the water after four hours .

(http://i.imgur.com/r6ng9de.jpg)

Eight hours after adding the teaspoon of alum the water is clear.

The silt deposit seen at the bottom is drained off after each use.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on January 06, 2016, 11:29:52 AM
10 / 10 for ingenuity Victor.   :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on January 11, 2016, 12:10:36 PM
Wood stove heat shield is fitted.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hg3XXPO.jpg)

I cut the brackets from scrap metal roofing.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZtdtHV2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2TJUR34.jpg)

Flat sheet metal gussets fixed to the back of the panel.

Alum. channel fitted to edges.

(http://i.imgur.com/TNgC2Wk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mHr4rOh.jpg)

Paint still required.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on January 11, 2016, 12:45:15 PM
A question for someone who may know .......

How do you people think I would go painting this with normal acrylic paint ?

The four inch flue has just over 100 mm ( four inch ) clearance to the panel .
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on January 11, 2016, 10:19:48 PM
Acrylic would turn brown very quickly you'd be better using a muffler paint for this area with zero chance of the paint catching fire.

Damien.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 09, 2016, 01:25:01 PM
Work has started on the engine mount that will be bolted to the underside of the bridge deck.

The side panels are 2 layers 3/8 Meranti marine plywood epoxy glued together to finish at 18 mm or 3/4 inch .

Internal cleats are two layers of hardwood to finish at 42 x 42 or 1 1/2 + inches square.

There is also a triple laminated hardwood cleat that forms a sturdy bolting flange to bolt the whole thing onto the deck beams from below.
Epoxy glued , fillet and heavy biaxial tape , wet on wet.

(http://i.imgur.com/30Gx2ng.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KTZUjLQ.jpg)

The laminating of the panels was tedious because I had no bronze ring shank nails left and did not want to wait a week to get them sent.
They would have made things much easier and quick.

(http://i.imgur.com/EP7N35I.jpg)

I pulled down the plywood with temp screws that needed to be filled after the epoxy had set .
Tedious.

Laminated rear panel .The motor board will be attached to this.

48 mm thick , or 1.9 inches approx.

(http://i.imgur.com/57g9BQo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tZgRobL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bPvt7jo.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 09, 2016, 09:15:30 PM
I drilled some steel angle and cut slots to make a steel jack plate for the engine mount.

(http://i.imgur.com/hGOcaRO.jpg)

This is for fresh water use only so two coats of kill rust primer and two top coats of paint should be good.

(http://i.imgur.com/p3Vk33l.jpg)

Fixed part of the jack plate.
Engine board is five layers 9 mm ( 3/8 inch ) marine ply , 50 mm 2 inches thick .
35 ply . Strong.

(http://i.imgur.com/9qMsRcE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fLyfgLv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ubPgdOa.jpg)

Sliding ( slotted ) part will be attached with 12.5 mm ( half inch ) high tensile bolts .

Motor pod ( upside down here ) with jack plate attached.

(http://i.imgur.com/FbFLlat.jpg)

I`ll post some pictures when the pod looks a bit more finished and presentable.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 10, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
I had some visitors today so not much work got done to the engine pod , but it is slowly taking shape.

Biax tape to all external edges.

(http://i.imgur.com/cs1Ec91.jpg)

Sturdy bolt on flange at the forward end of the engine pod.

It all feels very solid and rigid.

(http://i.imgur.com/31oZEWn.jpg)

A bulkhead is fitted inside the pod ,to resist the torsional stresses exerted by the motor , particularly when turning .

I glued and screwed , and  tabbed it in place with three layers of overlapping 100 mm ( four inch ) biaxial tape , again wet on wet.

(http://i.imgur.com/Kh1fLAF.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/q4wR9uB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPC6M2U.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8XnxkV5.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 16, 2016, 02:00:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NRzQ7U8.jpg)

Bulkhead tabbed in place with three layers bi-axial glass tape.
Limber holes can be seen at the bottom.

I was hoping to glass the pod exterior today , but the epoxy is still a little soft and smears the sanding belt.
Looks like that will happen tomorrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/wTakfQL.jpg)

Position of the deck beams ( horizontal line at top ) marked out with chalk line.

The vertical lines mark the position of the blocking that will be fixed between.

3/4 inch flooring makes for handy bracing of the under floor structure and engine pod.

(http://i.imgur.com/6TXF0ae.jpg)

Epoxy sealed holes for fasteners.

(http://i.imgur.com/h1ntpXr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vRFe8gL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TcmeOKf.jpg)

Cleats are fixed to blocking and deck beams .

(http://i.imgur.com/ppvzq4j.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 16, 2016, 05:20:54 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 17, 2016, 08:20:55 AM
Still looking Damian ? :o

(http://i.imgur.com/Ms1wM61.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pG5YbPe.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ACI1Pys.jpg)

These engine pods are a lot of work , ( many steps ) .

I did get a quote to have one made in lighter weight foam core / composites , the cost was scary.

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 17, 2016, 12:10:36 PM
Engine pod is covered with 6 oz glass cloth.

(http://i.imgur.com/VqLOTUT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/L3oBXDT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QEsyGyh.jpg)

Paint and bolt up next.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 17, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Yes mate I'm looking and enjoying your build.
Damien
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 19, 2016, 05:09:46 PM
The blocking between the deck beams is in place ready to bolt up the engine pod .

(http://i.imgur.com/cDPycdc.jpg)

Cleats fix the blocking in place .
Three inch batten screws are driven into the 2x6 blocking through the 3/4 inch Form-ply flooring from above.
The pod spans three deck beams.

I am currently detailing the smaller parts and painting them prior to the bolt up.

(http://i.imgur.com/LxoVe0N.jpg)

Final touches with a file and emery paper.

(http://i.imgur.com/0UECcdf.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 20, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OStsmm6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/21YzT82.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aerKeN0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tCJ4zRL.jpg)

I may need this cut down section for motor tilt.....?

(http://i.imgur.com/YjuNKZg.jpg)

Drains 12 mm or half inch.

(http://i.imgur.com/ftoFwUC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2yarf1x.jpg)

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 20, 2016, 11:13:05 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap I'm really enjoying the innovation in your build.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 20, 2016, 11:42:38 PM
Hi Damian ,

Your comments are appreciated.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 23, 2016, 08:23:18 PM
Drilling the holes for the mounting bolts ( galv coach screws actually ).
1/4 inch pilot holes to make sure the coach screws drive square , central , and along the deck beams axis.

(http://i.imgur.com/2KVqneB.jpg)

Followed by 1/2 inch.

(http://i.imgur.com/CcrYj52.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/u82IuZs.jpg)

Driving screws into the deck beam.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZRl9qRM.jpg)

The blocking lines up with the bolt up flange.

Two coach- screws in ....12 more to go.

(http://i.imgur.com/5mjnWUZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/baF5N2q.jpg)

View from the rear deck.

It was 39.7 Degrees C ( 103.4 F ) by noon today , so I called it quits for the day.
Beer time.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 23, 2016, 09:00:02 PM
 :a102   Very wise
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 23, 2016, 09:17:38 PM
Too much for me Damien ....getting older and all that....I really feel it these days. :-[

A ( bit crappy )  shot of the engine pod from the back.

(http://i.imgur.com/OJIaj2i.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 24, 2016, 09:11:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zWVZIiX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TimC3dO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2AwWyMh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sI4ExwK.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on February 24, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
Morning Victor......have been following on...

I am sure the bolted elements  :hammer will be of adequate strength, however will you ever need to have the facility to drain the pod?

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 24, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
Hi Derek.

I have placed  two half inch drains at the lowest point in the pod.

There are limber holes to drain condensation down to the drains.
You can see them in the corners here :

(http://i.imgur.com/NRzQ7U8.jpg)

The holes are epoxy lined so that no water can wick into the end grain of the plywood and rot it out.

(http://i.imgur.com/2yarf1x.jpg)

Epoxy lined drains.

(http://i.imgur.com/qtyoiQm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/papPO0J.jpg)

The lid in the last two photos can leak rain water , but is drained the same way.

Thank you for the comment , and following along.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on February 24, 2016, 11:38:23 AM
 :sorry Victor...I missed them from the posting on the 21st........ Derek  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 24, 2016, 12:47:25 PM
The beast is bolted up.

(http://i.imgur.com/8PHySem.jpg)

14 x 120 x 12 mm ( 5 x 1/2 inch  )  galv coach screws keep the whole mess attached.

(http://i.imgur.com/1a1vkT5.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/AEN1jLw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/unddgxO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e8yJBYh.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 25, 2016, 10:33:38 PM
Fitting the jack plate.

(http://i.imgur.com/HplqLKT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/g57fTws.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jOVAGhq.jpg)

Lining the bolt holes with epoxy.

Waiting for the epoxy to harden up so it can be drilled out makes this step slow.

(http://i.imgur.com/YWDxapU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EQP9mNH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FGR89eE.jpg)

I`m having wi-fi bandwidth problems , will try again in a day or two.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on February 26, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
It`s lunch time here , so I`m hunting for some " dodgy " bandwidth.
Only three drop-outs so far .


(http://i.imgur.com/VbSlySe.jpg)

I have trial fitted the jack plate , it looks like it should work ok...

(http://i.imgur.com/yGpGl2N.jpg)

I ground a sharp bevel on a piece of scrap steel tubing ( 1/2 inch ) and punched out some rubber seals / gaskets from an old
truck inner tube.These seal holes really well , reduce engine vibration and are also just as effective locking down tightened nuts on bolts as spring washers or Nylocs.

(http://i.imgur.com/4eiOeic.jpg)

Gasket under square washer.

(http://i.imgur.com/9YTZZH9.jpg)

Jack plate and motor board trial fitted.

(http://i.imgur.com/IK8gjtD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5YOHCMX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8x1H0vB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zSxsnN1.jpg)

I need to cut some bolts to length , and dis-assemble the whole circus now and paint it all for the last time.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on February 26, 2016, 09:44:28 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 01, 2016, 12:33:33 PM
Hello everyone.

I have completed some more work on my pickle barrel water tank.

One inch steel flat bar was shaped with a hammer and drilled .

(http://i.imgur.com/PYEqtP2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NJCBjjP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JThwnCe.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/auszHEX.jpg)

Painted with two coats of heavy duty metal primer.

(http://i.imgur.com/iZI7FUn.jpg)

The fill hose just pushes through the plywood top.

(http://i.imgur.com/pn8Ariz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kKbIj5S.jpg)

I added some light weight steel cladding to take away the ugly industrial look of a black poly barrel.

(http://i.imgur.com/28lqFaK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/K1HXHMl.jpg)

The barrel holds about 200 liters or 55 US gallons. The one inch flat bar secures it to the wall.

(http://i.imgur.com/UAJzj1n.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WEKOBTG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bVB2Pt8.jpg)

I have some more work to do like installing a silt drain and plug like this , and to connect a line to the 12 volt water pump feeding the shower and hand basin in the bathroom.

(http://i.imgur.com/7xs9gtV.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 01, 2016, 08:14:37 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 05, 2016, 11:04:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EvKHzRw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5X7oRsK.jpg)

I bent up some brackets to anchor the posts supporting the main roof beam  over the rear deck.

45 mm x 6 mm ( 1 3/4  x 1/4  inch ) steel flat bar.

(http://i.imgur.com/LYuOsmS.jpg)

Brackets set in sealant and screwed down with 50 mm ( 2 inch ) bugle headed batten screws .

(http://i.imgur.com/PRUwkCK.jpg)

90 x 45 corner posts are notched into the toe rail .

Rear beam is made from three laminations of 2x2 s

(http://i.imgur.com/gg6hwTw.jpg)



Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 09, 2016, 03:25:37 PM
Normally it would be a little odd to laminate the rear roof beam , as there is no real load on it at all , but I had no more 2 x 6 by 12 ft long .
I did have some odd bits of shorter 2 x 4 , so I just ripped it into 2 x 2 and glued it all together to get a 12 footer.

(http://i.imgur.com/H6DMFU5.jpg)

The top has a three inch camber cut into it to match the curve of the roof panels.

The bottom has a 3 / 4 inch concave curve cut into it so that it does not appear to sag .

The roof sheets are cranked down to prevent water from blowing under the edge of the sheet and onto the ceiling panels.

(http://i.imgur.com/5mr08t1.png)

This is the tool roofers use to make the folds. $ 50 - $ 100.00

Or you can get a vice grip and just weld some steel angle onto the jaws .

(http://i.imgur.com/768cg8Z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0DnfO8B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZCGwpVm.jpg)

This little tool makes perfect folds every time.

Cambered beams usually require cambered flashing to be made to order , but as I only needed one 12 ft piece I just cut darts into the roof sheeting and bent them down using the vice grip tool.

(http://i.imgur.com/mhzp5ZK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Iai2T7y.jpg)

The last roofing panel is fixed in place with sealant.

(http://i.imgur.com/3dXz3zT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AGLHF8v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Fj0YAJz.jpg)

A hardwood cover batten is fixed over the darts and completes the fixing.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 11, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
A question about LED Can lights , ladies and gentlemen :

Some of you following this saga may remember that I am lining the ceiling with four inch foam ceiling panels.

I am hoping to make use some of the LED downlights under the rear deck, like this :

(http://i.imgur.com/5dcRf79.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Hwwqyk5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/d0FYfIY.jpg)

The roof structure consists of 2 x 4s on the outside ( gutter line ) , and 2 x 6s for the longitudinal s running parallel to the center line of the boat.

So ....those heat sinks are obviously there for a reason , and given that I have four inches of foam all around the cut out and foil over the top , where will the heat dissipate to ?

This is the cut out for one of the waste water vents , but it illustrates the issue I think :

(http://i.imgur.com/gnmcP9L.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mfAJMxR.jpg)

Will this literally end up burning the house down ?

I usually do research before asking questions like this , but have had little time lately .

Thanks in advance people , as always.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 11, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
Might be worth chatting to an electrician or at least staff of a dedicated lighting shop such as Beacon lighting they seem to have shops all over the place.
Damien.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 11, 2016, 03:04:22 PM
I think your`e right Damien , its all  a little risky I think......
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 11, 2016, 09:41:03 PM
How many are you using? and what about a dome topped vent above each to get air flow and thus cooling.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 11, 2016, 11:29:28 PM
Good question Damien ....to be honest , I don`t know how many ?

I had thought of mushroom vents , over each light fitting perhaps .....just like you suggest.

Maybe its just safer to use strip led side lighting ?
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 12, 2016, 10:50:06 PM
It may be self defeating with all that foam for heat protection to have heat producers in the ceiling.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 13, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
Can lights  idea scrapped I think , :nono

Thanks Damien.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 14, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3HX3WFT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/iRGumLi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7pMH0B9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/E4BSDO3.jpg)

Fitting ceiling panels .

Each panel is approx 4 x 4 ft .

96 square ft. Some fiddly trim work to do now.

(http://i.imgur.com/9plsbMV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5sGlzk9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kGEYMGm.jpg)

Up and down the ladder ...measure ....cut .....trial fit .......adjust if necessary ....slow and a little tedious .
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 27, 2016, 11:17:19 AM
I have completed  my rear deck railing .

50 x 50 mm ( 2 x 2 inch )  treated pine.

The top rail has a 19 x 90 mm (3/4 x 4 inch) hardwood cap epoxy glued on top.

The top rail is  seated in a shallow notch cut into the rear post.

(http://i.imgur.com/V1b84S1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gmzYEi6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wpuDtk0.jpg)

Post anchored with strong steel brackets.

(http://i.imgur.com/GeODlxC.jpg)

A single 100 mm stainless screw holds the upright in place while the epoxy glue sets.

(http://i.imgur.com/kCBcywW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Vd51wCI.jpg)

The entire structure feels sturdy and safe , but heavy steel brackets will be added .

As seen from the rear deck.

(http://i.imgur.com/5bhIK0R.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8BRvNZc.jpg)

Canvas was glued around timber battens and fixed in place with stainless steel cup washers over another larger washer. All screwed down with heavy gauge stainless steel screws.

(http://i.imgur.com/jmxbGWe.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s1H2rXU.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on March 27, 2016, 02:10:51 PM
Really coming together now :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

I bought a pair of these for above dark spots  perhaps may suit your needs the ones I have now not quite bright enough have no heat output.
Lots to choose from on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281449817892?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on March 27, 2016, 04:45:10 PM
Thanks Damien ,
They look like they may well do the job .
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 03, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
The time is approaching when I need to run some electrical cable .

I was considering running some cable over my ceiling panels ( polystyrene ).

Has anyone here any experience with this phenomena or even heard of this before ?

Its a new one to me ?


PVC cable insulation and polystyrene insulation


(http://www.esfrs.org/_resources/assets/inline/custom/3/3281.JPG)

The remains of electrical cables lying on polystyrene insulation board

(http://www.esfrs.org/_resources/assets/inline/custom/3/3282.JPG)

Damage caused by the innocuous positioning of electrical cables upon polystyrene

http://www.esfrs.org/black-museum/all-the-black-museum-cases/pvc-cable-insulation-and-polystyrene-insulation/ (http://www.esfrs.org/black-museum/all-the-black-museum-cases/pvc-cable-insulation-and-polystyrene-insulation/)

http://www.generalcable.co.nz/getattachment/0ebda90b-b4f8-43ae-b622-c9280295116b/PVC-Cables-in-Contact-with-Polystyrene-or-Bitumen.aspx (http://www.generalcable.co.nz/getattachment/0ebda90b-b4f8-43ae-b622-c9280295116b/PVC-Cables-in-Contact-with-Polystyrene-or-Bitumen.aspx)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 06, 2016, 10:54:23 AM
It`s actually raining here today !

So , I moved inside and started on some finish trim work in the front cabin.

(http://i.imgur.com/E260bSs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jCTxw9Z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/E2iN4HM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/huCIGxl.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 18, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
Hello all ,
 
I did some more recycling today.
 
Found these in my travels to town today and could not pass them by.
 
Dirt cheap and the lead light glass was in perfect condition.

(http://i.imgur.com/oKcq7AT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BoKeVf6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xg42ugp.jpg)

The only down side to this was the " ugly eighties " router work.

I took out the glass and cut away the entire ugliness with a straight cut router bit.
 
The new cut became the new rebate for the glazing bead , so the inside face of the door was turned around to become the outside of the door.

(http://i.imgur.com/vIMXIOh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OVZCluO.jpg)

The back showing the rebate I cut for the glazing bead.
 
And here two before and after pictures.

(http://i.imgur.com/zlb4rKn.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AA07uoF.jpg)

These measure 860 mm high x 480 mm wide and will be a good size for some internal cabin cabinets.
 
I like giving old ,  no longer wanted things a new life.

 
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on April 18, 2016, 01:19:20 PM
 :a102 Your boat but I liked the original routed look each to their own ideas.  :whistle

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 18, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
But .......

It dates that door Damian ......sooooo ....1980s ?   :P

This is the original federation look ....plain square edges.

(http://i.imgur.com/hZGy59R.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/09dHb8Y.png)








Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on April 18, 2016, 03:35:08 PM
Fair enough.

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on April 18, 2016, 05:15:57 PM
Well Victor :whistle

Considering your vessel will not suffer the storms & waves of the North Sea.....I believe your installation of the recycled stained glass ''lead lights'' will be a beautiful addition :kiss1 with the afternoon sunlight streaming in to the living spaces .........in the calm of the Murray

Looking forward to seeing more images as you progress the build  :beer

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 18, 2016, 10:08:37 PM
Well Victor :whistle

Considering your vessel will not suffer the storms & waves of the North Sea.....I believe your installation of the recycled stained glass ''lead lights'' will be a beautiful addition ,  with the afternoon sunlight streaming in to the living spaces .........in the calm of the Murray

Looking forward to seeing more images as you progress the build .

Derek

The joys of flat water boating Derek. ;)

Thanks for the comment and for still following along.

I`m looking forward to finishing this thing so I actually have time to read all of the excellent threads here , at the moment I feel I`m missing a lot.
No time !
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Delaunay on April 19, 2016, 01:31:03 AM
 :)Although the good evening;

With beautiful doors and windows like this, a real floating mansion!  ;)

cordially
François
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 19, 2016, 01:32:19 AM
Thank you for the nice comments Francois.



(http://i.imgur.com/oB3moWH.jpg)

Finished windows.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on April 19, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
Just a few questions Victor :whistle.......without me going back to post #1 of the build

1. was the vessel base frame supported as built on a measurably flat level surface?...ie., equal to the flatness of water

2. will the vessel have adequate structural rigidity to enable the lifting and transportation without any damage to the glass windows?

Seem to remember viewing images of motor vessels being lifted via mobile cranes with all of the vessels windows :hammer secured in the opened positions

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 19, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
Hi Derek.

Thank you for the question.

First off , all these pontoon based houseboats built here do in fact flex.
This is most evident when the boats are moored with the bows pushed against any uneven river bank.

In that respect you are quite right .

Most of the steel framed ones built here are lined with Gyprock ( US drywall ) to the walls and ceiling.
These boats have displayed sufficient flex to show cracks at  the cornice or corner moldings.

What I did is epoxy glue and bolt the hull sections together using a string line to get them straight and true.
I was pleased with the result , they did in fact turn out to be quite straight and true.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/15203656140_e1d0ce8ef6_z.jpg)

Each hull is , in effect , a rigid box beam / girder .
So , longitudinally they are good to go for transport.

After the hulls were assembled they were chocked level with large timber blocks using a water level.
I did get them very close to level , that is to say the level did not show any discrepancies at all over the forty foot length.
That is good enough for me.

The 150 x 50 ( 2 x 6 ) timber  beams ( there are 22 of them ) are stress graded ( visually inspected and selected by a professional timber grader ).

They were checked for wind shakes , checking , and allowable knot size and location , as well as moisture content and bowing and twist.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15405224881_8f91703e3f_z.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/12955949065_4ffc9f6b33_z.jpg)

Stress graded deck beams.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7355/14039967251_76464deea1_z.jpg)

The hulls turned out straight and true.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14230286139_aeff345270_z.jpg)

The deck ( floor ) aligns parallel with the water plane.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/15330096166_5409e12d79_z.jpg)

There is enough flex in the Whitco casement stays to allow movement inside the frame , and there is additional clearance from the opening frame to the casement proper.

There will be flex Derek , to be sure.I anticipate it will be ok for transport.

Windows slightly ajar during transport is a prudent precaution I think.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on April 19, 2016, 12:45:26 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on April 19, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
Well Victor...

I sort of understood that you had the necessary structural/design requirements considered & well in hand :goodnews   ....but just had to ask

Wouldn't want to see any of those leadlights cracked.. :crash

Have you considered air bag rollers for elevation lifting prior to a low loader ...as opposed to a mobile crane lift?

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 19, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
I know a guy ........... ;)..................

..............who happens to have a trailer that will easily carry this pontoon boat , as well as larger ones.

That trailer is quite a thing ....it`s adjustable in width so will accommodate narrower or much wider boats than mine.

This little craft is small at 3.6 m or 12 ft wide.

AS things stand at present , the plan is to jack the boat another 200mm or eight inches on two steel RSJs and lower it down on the trailer.

It can then be literally launched backwards into the river like a rather large trailer boat.

Don`t ask the cost Derek ....SCARY EXPENSIVE.

The boat will not likely need to be craned at all.

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: PeteH on April 22, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
Just joined the forum and had to look at ALL the pages of this build - great work!
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 22, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
Hi Peter ,

Thank you for the kind words and interest.

I see on your profile that you are a machinist .
I so often often wished I had skills like that.

One of my goals has always been to build a model steam engine and boiler , but have always lacked the tools and skills needed to make that a reality .I don`t know if it is something I could teach myself ?

I think I could perhaps fabricate a simple oscillating engine .
Maybe one day.

Welcome to the forum.

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on April 23, 2016, 11:16:03 PM
Victor these may work for your lighting.

https://store.voltimum.com.au/products/lighting/lamps-and-tubes/led-lamps-and-tubes/hpm-legrand-sale-69-nelson-3w-led-12v-mr16-3000k-warm-white-lamp.html
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Robert Hornby on April 25, 2016, 10:58:20 AM
Victor,
I also have just joined this superb forum and read through your build. I am in total awe of your craftsmanship, skills and ingenuity. You will have a masterpiece of creation when finished and something to be very proud of.
Great work Victor.

Robert
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 25, 2016, 03:50:20 PM
Victor these may work for your lighting.

https://store.voltimum.com.au/products/lighting/lamps-and-tubes/led-lamps-and-tubes/hpm-legrand-sale-69-nelson-3w-led-12v-mr16-3000k-warm-white-lamp.html

I finally have some bandwidth to reply  ::).....So better late than never .....

Those look like good halogen replacement bulbs Damien.

I have not seen quality ones like those at such a good price.

I don`t have the Halogen fittings for them , so I`m still looking at all options.

Thanks for the heads up mate.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on April 25, 2016, 03:59:07 PM
Victor,
I also have just joined this superb forum and read through your build. I am in total awe of your craftsmanship, skills and ingenuity. You will have a masterpiece of creation when finished and something to be very proud of.
Great work Victor.

Robert


This is really quite  a simple little boat Robert , no high tech stuff , or even anything out of the ordinary.
Even though I am on a very tight budget , its costing far more than I had hoped. I mostly make do with what I can scrounge and adapt for the task at hand , hoping its all going to work out in the end.

Far from any masterpiece Robert , but I think you can budget and still have something pleasing to the eye.
Aesthetics are highly subjective too , what one person finds attractive may not please another , so one makes his or her choices ......

Thanks for the kind comments , much appreciated.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 27, 2016, 07:11:48 PM
I will have some updates for you soon , life got in the way , but I will soon show some more progress.

So little time at the moment.

(http://i.imgur.com/yYqsbWW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dgZqHnD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Yh7tPnK.jpg)

Working on the rear cabin . This is the small cabinet with a trial fit of the doors.

Not a lot to show , but , hopefully  there will be soon.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 27, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
The other thing I am working on is the fireplace flue , and its associated flashing on the roof.

(http://i.imgur.com/BKCPpJg.jpg)

Spare piece of roofing will be fashioned to make a waterproof flashing for the flue.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZP3UwGZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3OjLTcs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DM9bD32.jpg)

Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on May 27, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Yes we are still watching Victor :beer.....but suggest that when God asked Noah to waterproof the roof of the Ark, he taught him to use tar & hemp

I am not a fan of any Silistic elastic ilestic goop............. :41....as the interface bond will fail & leak eventually :sorry

Derek 
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PM
I'm still eagerly watching as well  Victor. :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 27, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
Yes we are still watching Victor :beer.....but suggest that when God asked Noah to waterproof the roof of the Ark, he taught him to use tar & hemp

I am not a fan of any Silistic elastic ilestic goop............. :41....as the interface bond will fail & leak eventually :sorry

Derek


You may be right Derek , I was hoping that the rivets I will add will help keep things together.

The silicone is purpose specific roof and gutter sealant.

" Plan B "  so to speak , is Sikaflex or 3M 5200 .

(http://images.jamestowndistributors.com/woeimages/adhesives/large/3m5200.jpg)

3M 5200 is a single part sealant that cures to form a firm, rubbery waterproof seal. When fully cured, this high strength marine adhesive remains flexible and suitable for use where shock, vibration, shrinking or swelling are concerns.


3M™ Marine Adhesive Sealant 5200 is extremely strong and retains its strength above or below water line. Stays flexible too - allows for structural movement. Has excellent resistance to weathering and salt water.
Very high strength
Watertight bonds
Above/Below waterline use



That stuff never comes away from anything !

Thank you Derek , and Damien for looking.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 27, 2016, 10:21:34 PM
Your welcome mate.  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on May 30, 2016, 12:13:18 PM
I " found " some time today to work on the river boat.

Not a lot to show , but its all progress I guess.

To install the wood burner stove ,  I need to insulate the 100 mm ( four inch ) flue from the surrounding combustible ceiling panels and roof framing.

As I am waiting for the stainless flue order to arrive , in the mean time , this is a start at making the drop box that will penetrate the ceiling and hopefully prevent the house from burning down.

This is the first skin liner that will surround the flue as it passes through the ceiling.

It is recycled sheet metal from an old washing machine casing.Its nice thick sheet metal that can take some hammering .
The bends and folds were just shaped over some scrap 50 mm steel angle , and the two halves riveted together with pop rivets and sealer.

(http://i.imgur.com/alIqRaX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NqAoynO.jpg)

There is another second skin that is spaced about 25mm away from the inner liner .

The four inch flue will be placed inside these.

(http://i.imgur.com/zCm5RQp.jpg)

I fashioned a cone shaped piece that fits over the outer shield ( left ).

Holes will be cut or drilled along the very top edge to allow the hot air to vent out.

(http://i.imgur.com/6pAylIx.jpg)

The piece on the right is where the flue will exit in the centre.

The narrow skirt that can be seen around the outside is a shield to prevent rain water from entering the vent holes.

I will cut and seal the circular hole for a watertight fit when I have the flue.

(http://i.imgur.com/CRoGrfp.jpg)

Next is making the ceiling plate and witches or chinaman`s hat ( cowl ).

Circular galv. sheet is formed into a cone.

(http://i.imgur.com/KemogIL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NBw2Vsh.jpg)

The cowl surround is a recycled aluminium cooking pot that was just the correct diameter.

(http://i.imgur.com/uGc0ZFX.jpg)

I cut the bottom out with a four inch cutting disc.

(http://i.imgur.com/1kk8GMN.jpg)

The cowl will look something like this.

These are ADD or Anti  Down  Draft cowls , they are really simple in design , but they do work well.

The wind / air moves over the circular cowling which creates a slight  pressure difference inside  ( low pressure ) which causes additional draft to clear any hot exhausts or smoke  away.

There are more small items to add to get the thing assembled , but this gives an idea of what this will look like.

The ceiling plate was fashioned from a recycled stainless steel BBQ drip tray.

(http://i.imgur.com/rUUtnwT.jpg)

To reduce buckling the edge of the flue hole was reinforced with a piece of split ( slotted ) 3/8 inch copper pipe.
 
Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on May 30, 2016, 04:18:59 PM
 :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on June 10, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
Victor these LED strips 7.2 watt 12v 36 LED's  quite bright day white may be worth looking at I bought 2 for my work area as the fluoro lights are on my right leaving  a shadow when doing fiddly jobs.

At $3.62 and free post they're a great price.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221653744015?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 12, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
Victor these LED strips 7.2 watt 12v 36 LED's  quite bright day white may be worth looking at I bought 2 for my work area as the fluoro lights are on my right leaving  a shadow when doing fiddly jobs.

At $3.62 and free post they're a great price.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221653744015?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Very interesting Damien , I think I can use those , thank you for the heads up !

I made the bottom heat shield for the wood burner today.

Work on this thing ( the heater ) seems to go on and on .......

I made the heat shield below the ash box from left over C- Channel sections bolted together.

(http://i.imgur.com/o3FFSuJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dgWYo6P.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vCkxr0t.jpg)

The ash box bottom piece is cast iron , I inserted  50mm ( two inch ) steel angle spacers to cool the bottom.

(http://i.imgur.com/qla9ja9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2vLypMt.jpg)

Front view.

(http://i.imgur.com/u3MdH6r.jpg)

There is another heat shield that will be riveted under the primary heat shield.

(http://i.imgur.com/iFFzGDm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Xyd98ks.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bu312hU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/B9e83fR.jpg)

No further shielding is required below , and the heater is ready to be  mounted .

Paint is next.

Thanks for watching.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Robert Hornby on June 17, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
Very ingenious Victor, love your work.

Robert
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 20, 2016, 12:46:13 PM
Hi Robert , and thanks for the encouragement....

The good news is that my flue was delivered on Friday.

So I heat set the paint today.

(http://i.imgur.com/JbYg78e.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z9I2I0P.jpg)

This little stove draws almost as good as rocket stove !

(http://i.imgur.com/yPlIchw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/k2iGYVj.jpg)

The lower heat shield barely got warm.

(http://i.imgur.com/NJG7Dxv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/trUZX5m.jpg)

I`ll post some more progress when I find some time to work on this barge.

(http://i.imgur.com/RfZOYNb.jpg)


Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on June 20, 2016, 01:30:39 PM
Very nice flue there Victor....will keep the Brasso people in business for years ...... :goodluck .... Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Delaunay on June 20, 2016, 05:00:36 PM
:) Bien l'bonjour ;
Chouette le poêle  à bois et installation très ingénieuse .
François


:) Although the hello;
Owl wood stove and ingenious installation.
François
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 20, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Merci Francois , and thank you Derek.

(http://i.imgur.com/rEaNrHu.jpg)

I fitted a tri - stay to my cooking pot cowling today.

(http://i.imgur.com/GJeFBGz.jpg)

To make cleaning the flue a little easier , the cowling is just a tight push - on fit.

Not much to show for a weekend of messing about really , but its another step in the right direction I guess.
Next weekend , weather permitting , I will attempt to cut a hole in the roof to fit the drop box to the boat.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on June 21, 2016, 11:41:13 AM
Looking good mate.  :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on June 21, 2016, 03:22:26 PM
I will be interested to see where/how this Pot Belly is located in the vessel Victor......if fuel is not a cost issue, they produce a great heat output

You have a horizontal spade type flue throttle, the unit I had experience with used a rotary disk type throttle [you will need some asbestos type gloves to save the :ranting]

Having a brass flue chimney, this material in itself is a superb radiator [by convection] of heat if you can contain the heat in the chimney :whistle

Either way absolutely great for warming a semi insulated semi enclosed area......ideal for the coffee pot...with a little experience with the outer filigree belly ring...also great for cooking toast & anything you can fit in a small pan...... :06

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 25, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
Hello everyone.

I got a lucky break in the weather this morning , so I installed the chimney drop box.

(http://i.imgur.com/94nodIM.jpg)

There`s a big hole in the roof !

(http://i.imgur.com/AfliJVk.jpg)

It fits ok .........

(http://i.imgur.com/JpwNcn9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aARzjRY.jpg)

Double skin going through the ceiling .

(http://i.imgur.com/54tLJvA.jpg)

I covered the air vent slots with fine metal mesh.

(http://i.imgur.com/D0tm7CH.jpg)

Inside the chimney liner.

Framing around the drop box is in place.

(http://i.imgur.com/YEZP4Il.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5dRGuRY.jpg)

Checking ceiling plate for fit.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ojw0dIl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jG6VTHL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tPIkOOJ.jpg)

Bottom of the drop box is flush with the ceiling.

The rain stopped any more work ( on the roof) today , so thats it until next weekend.



Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on June 29, 2016, 07:16:30 PM
I wasn`t going to do any more work until Saturday , but I went into the shed tonight , and did some more work on the ceiling plate .
 
I made a shallow surround for the ceiling plate and put some brass channel around the edges to make the plate a little more rigid.
It was bowing under its own weight !
 
The shallow sides are cut from a length of recycled galv. stormwater downpipe , and the brass channel came from an old trashed fire screen.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/aDV6dJt.jpg)

Cutting slots into the sides of the surround.

Folding the corners.

(http://i.imgur.com/cGLFBcR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sgBJcaC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3t37OQS.jpg[img])

(http://i.imgur.com/veFDKLi.jpg)[/img]

Ceiling plate with brass channel fixed on.

(http://i.imgur.com/8d4JHwW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IN8TBwp.jpg)

External corner.

(http://i.imgur.com/g0qcM4x.jpg)

Upside down picture of what this will look like when put in place.
 
That was another two hours work believe it or not ......maybe I`m just slow  ::)


Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on June 30, 2016, 09:49:40 PM
 :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on July 06, 2016, 02:45:53 PM
8.2 Degrees C ( 46.7 F) outside , but toasty warm inside the cabin space.

 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/VfX9bNH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0soWCef.jpg)

Fitting the ceiling panels into the frame.

(http://i.imgur.com/LLJNHeN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GzmQDrd.jpg)



Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on July 06, 2016, 08:30:00 PM
 :clap  :great :clap  :terrific :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on July 06, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
Very good Victor...we see plenty of Australian RED wood heater feed  :clap...but where is the  :coffee pot or the mmmmmmmmarsh mellows for toasting?  :hehe

Derek
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on July 07, 2016, 04:18:37 AM
My stove top kettle is broken Derek  :(

Must get a new one.
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on July 07, 2016, 11:37:22 AM
Great way to recycle scrap build timber mate.  :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: victor vector on July 09, 2016, 12:13:41 AM
It also helps with the clean up , burn it , and keep warm , rather than dump it .....  ;)

I must say , all that foam insulation is doing its job Damien , that little heater is almost overkill for the cabin , and it stays warm !

I`m very pleased  :beer
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: DamienG on July 09, 2016, 12:46:12 PM
 :great
Title: Re: Building a river boat
Post by: Roderick Smith on December 29, 2016, 11:40:51 PM
Will this be finished for April?  RMBOA is running a ramble from Greenings to Moorook over 10 days, plus an express return for the large boats which aren't trailable.
Roderick.