Paddleducks
Paddler Modelling => Construction => Topic started by: DamienG on October 17, 2017, 05:27:05 PM
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Now I have some new photos I'll start this build again the original whilst it was long with many appreciate comments from fellow duckers was pretty much garbled without the lost pictures.
All photos will be stored on their own hard drive after losing 1200+ as well as placed on a free site recommended by the admin of another model boat forum.
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Since I took those pic's yesterday 56 x 1mm holes for the hand rail stanchions have been drilled.
When I counted the 4mm x 2.5mm ply feet for the stanchion bases and darn it I'm one short
I made another 6 as some have the 1mm hole off centre, tomorrow I'll super glue the edges to stop the ply delamination.
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looks very much promising. Did you already made a water test? How is the stability?
Thomas
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I haven't done a water test yet Thomas hadn't even thought of it I'll get her bum wet tomorrow afternoon after weekly shopping.
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Well the water test didn't happen wife decided she wanted to mow the lawn by the time I lugged out the 50 metre electric cable and the electric mower and put them away when she'd finished I was beyond anything other than sitting so I finished the new stanchion feet Then started installing the stanchions around the beam opening in the roof with super glue when dry the little ply feet were glued in place with balsa glue.
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Looking really nice Damien.
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Seriously wishing I'd used thick card or styrene for the stanchion feet after another eight delaminated while preparing them today.
The dark ones at the rear i've coloured with Jacobean stain for use on the lower planked stern deck.
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Found I had some .8mm from the back of a book of art paper I laminated 3 pieces with some sticky glue my wife Jo uses for her craft endeavours should be able to punch out a bunch of them tomorrow.
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Grrrrrr the card also delaminated, searched my styrene bits draw and found some 1.64mm scrap as I need 46 I punched out 60 and marked centre with a fine point marker hopefully to find centre easier while drilling 1mm holes for the stanchions.
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Wow gluing the styrene stanchion bases in place was trickier than I expected styrene glue didn't work nor did balsa glue.
I ended up holding them in place with 1mm brass rod and trying to use as little super glue as possible.
I was about 70% successful 2 didn't stick and several glued the brass rod as well. :darn I have other things to do before fitting the stanchions ie. some filling and a coat of undercoat.
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All stanchions accept the lower deck ones super glued in place first pic shows balsa blocks that will ensure the rails will all be in correct height/position, the plan calls for 3 rails I'll only use 2 as 3 in a 1/2" or 12mm would make soldering with shaky hands difficult.
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All the uneeded 1mm holes plus a few hollows filled with polyfiller.
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The stanchions are exact and vertical straightened in the right manner. I know, that`s important and difficult to do - the impression of the whole model depends from this details.
With the light superstructure made of balsa you will also get a good stability when the boat is in water. Will be the next job painting?
Thomas
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Still a few things to do Thomas.
Some deck doors etc.
The wheel house and the oval shaped skylight thingy on stern end of the upper deck.
And I'm not sure how to tackle the wheel boxes, If I mask off where they sit I can paint the deck and cabin behind them prior to starting them as well as painting the rear of the paddle boxes will make it easier in the long run.
Our weather man has predicted a wet and humid summer I may not get it painted this year I've chosen Ivory for above waterline I'm not having much luck finding zinc chromate paint in small quantities for below waterline I might have to mix it the best i can.
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I have some scrap computer connection wire when I striped the outer shield off found approximately 5 strands twisted and tinned the entire length approximately 1mm dia perfect for the railings as it's a freelance model I'm not going with the wooden one on the plan
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The forward mid deck rails done clean up after the stern rails are completed they're showing the ravages of wild drunken parties on board.
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Goodness.... :beer wild drunken :06 goings on board. .....
:nono .....does the management not have any rules about sobriety when guests are on board?
Derek :whistle
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:tongue1 Management doesn't drink but gets a kick out of others making fools of themselves. :yeahbaby
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Stern mid deck railings done a bit neater than forward ones.
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Looking at the plan measuring window sizes it struck me I'd missed detail on the engine bellows 2 brass supports each side.
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Wheel house and the other roof top fitting now glued in place, a litter filler needed under both of them.
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:) Hello;
not easy railings in such small size, could you not find brass wire in 5/10 mm.
The balsa superstructure will not be too fragile?
Beautiful work that I look with admiration.
François
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I missed those engine cylinder supports too...I'll put them on when I go back to mine to rebuild/improve the paddles!
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:oops
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Thought about undercoat and retrieved my grey primer from back shed to stir and thin to correct consistency to find the last 40mm in the 4litre tin a really thick jelly :c002 into the garbage it went have to see my doctor tomorrow I'll buy some on way home, can't believe the price difference what I paid for the 4 litre tin 10 plus years ago when I built my Renault 10 Hillclimb car will now only buy 1 litre.
Whilst waiting for paint started on the windows my wife had given me an 8mm square punch and some thin acrylic mirror tiles which I punched approx 60 x 8mm sq's of mirror, and I bought 2 A3 sheets of black 1mm card from newsagents and cut 5 x 30mm strips
Then punched 12 - 8mm squares from each strip, placed 25mm double sided tape on the back and then placed the mirror squares where I cut the black squares from.
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A tricky bit of bending in the wheelhouse stair rail.
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The soldering on the handrails was trimmed wit dental burrs in my dremel (Tip Whenever you get dental work done ask dentist for the burrs they throw them away after every patient.)
Where the the wheel covers sit are masked ready for primer Friday through Monday are listed for 24c to 27c degrees great for spraying, the paint will dry quickly.
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Got most of primer on today the can ran out with one pass to go grrrrrr I'll dig out the airbrush and compressor tomorrow.
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The things you don't notice until primer goes on the rear deck level cabin balsa walls are very grainy, tomorrow I'll mix some talc with primer and fill the grain.
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Hi Damian,
looks very good, it`s a fine built. But may I express a little glimpse of criticism this time? From my opinion it would be better to use thin brass wire (1 mm) for the railing. I suppose, this relative little altering would arrange a really pefect model!
Greetings by Thomas
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:azn: Hello;
With this gray color, it looks like a unit of the National Marine of frogs
More and more friendly this boat
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Thomas I had ordered 1mm wire on ebay but after 2 1/2 months waiting went for what I had on hand today a week short of 3 months I received a refund.
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Best source of brass wire in a wide range of thicknesses is a harpsichord string supplier....
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:c017
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The talc in the primer worked well and being a very warm 26c day I had to keep adding thinners as it was drying on the applicator brush.
I went out after dinner and sanded it smooth.
29c tomorrow I will finish the primer and re-mask the rear deck.
While waiting for the primer to dry I started looking at the wheel cover positioning and found I should have cut cut the outer pair across the grain as the first pair with the grain wouldn't bend sufficiently, so used the originals as a pattern for the new ones.
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30c tuesday with a bit of luck I will start the hull painting.
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Looks precise and exact! Wheather here in south Germany: Raining and windy, temperatur 1° c - but a good day for building at the model in the working area...
Thomas
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Thanks Thomas, The heat has arrived unusually early unfortunately they're forecasting an unusually wet summer this combination will be bad for sinuses and allergies with lots of mould around.
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Damien....
Have you built/assembled your Clyde Models wheel sets yet?.....if so...would like to see some images please, and any assembly comments you wish to make
Derek
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Nothing more than a cursory glance Derek, want to finish Josie first don't have room for two at a time.
Got the masking done used the blue tape for the first time had it for quite some time & never remembered it was in the drawer lol
Outstanding for curves wish I'd used it when I bought it.
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A bit more filler was needed had dinner and went back out did the final sanding followed by more primer and tomorrow I'll make a means of marking the water line when done I'll sand with with 600grit paper followed by a tack rag, and she'll be ready for paint.
Pic's of today's efforts.
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Another coat of primer on the hull, and the manufacture of a waterline marking tool one carpenters pencil sacrificed and some scrap balsa.
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Got the bottom masked off ready for paint unfortunately rain is forecast for the next week with temp's in the mid 20's C and humidity 70% to 90% I won't risk paint bloom.
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Mixed the red/dark brown enamel for the bottom and when cleaning up discovered I'd thinned it with acetone not general purpose thinners :41 :c002 :ranting :sobbing and had to throw away 2 airbrush bottles full 1/2hour wasted.
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Have both colours mixed and in airbrush bottles.
Darn bother drat it's annoying the faults that show up whilst dry rubbing with 600 wet & dry paper lots more filling needed talc added to grey primer will alleviate spraying primer again.
No pic's when i took pic's they showed more faults than I'd noticed.
Gave up for today feeling off my other half is just over a few off days looks like she passed it to me.
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Looking very nice there Damien, A lot of prep work will be rewarded with a class model. :)
Robert
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Thanks Robert. :) :)
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Painting on hold for a few days temps for next few days with 29c today and medical stuff thursday 30c and friday 28c, saturday's a free day 25c then 22c for sunday.
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Drat saturday had lunch 17.9 degrees ready to paint and a thunder storm rolls in and dumps a big load of water radar shows 4 more storms heading our way no paint today.
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Massive thunder storm this morning lasted 40mins sun came out every thing was dry an hour later so I got stuck into the superstructure and hull bottom painting, darn even more filling needed, I'll mix the paint with talc for filler so I'll be able to sand it and spray the top coat without re-priming.
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really an impressive and fascinating model! Damian, when do you think, it will be finished?
Thomas
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Not sure Thomas it depends a lot on my health frequent medical visits chew into my shed time. Hopefully before the new year.
Grrrrrrrr 24 hours after airbrushing the superstructure is dry but the hull bottom is still really tacky whilst spraying it it seemed a tad thick I assume it went on thicker than the ivory superstructure both colours were new tins of enamel.
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48hrs and still as tacky as yesterday I removed all the masking, out with the thinners and rags and took it back to primer left it an hour and took to it with 400 W&D paper dry when done a tack rag removed the dust and re primed her.
32c tomorrow I'll mix another batch of paint a lot thinner this time and see what happens.
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Maybe a good idea to test it on a piece of scrap before applying to the boat??
She's certainly looking good so well done!
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Thanks I've done a test piece with the original mix of red-dark brown they were new tins bought for the job I also did one with
A dark buckboard brown of a different brand if that dries quickly I'll just use it instead and throw away the dud tins.
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19hrs and the red is tacky and the brown is almost dry just slightly tacky you'd think 32c temp would help it dry.
Ooops found this crack where the upper cabin has separated from the deck this will be tricky getting filler into it I just knew they'd be needed when I bought the long cotton buds.
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Maybe the air humidity is having an effect?
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Humidity has been around 40% for the last few days.
I did a test piece with the original mix of red-dark brown they were new tins bought for the job I also did one with
A dark buckboard brown of a different brand if that dries quickly I'll just use it instead and throw away the dud tins.
After 24hrs the dark brown was almost dry whereas the red-dark brown was really tacky,
only thing I can think of is perhaps these tins are a different composition and don't like general purpose thinners, I'll get some turps tomorrow and give it another try but expect it to take longer to dry as in this weather the GP thinners would evaporate from the paint in minutes.
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Another day goes by the red/black test piece is still very tacky where as the brown is dry a trip to garbage land fill for the 2 dud tins.
Nothing else happening here 32c feels like 39c in the little tin shed back inside. Weather mob predicts a week of low 20c's with up to 300mm of rain will be stuck inside if we don't float away.
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Most of the rain avoided us as did the heat just enough rain for high humidity, so set to work changing the shed around so I can fit Volcanos hull on the bench.
No pic's at pres it's a pig stye.
The red/black paint mix is still tacky.
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Sprayed the mission brown on hull bottom very warm day not long until sun reaches model head inside for dinner afterwards discover wind had sprung up and deposited rubbish from neighbours trees all over it Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Have sanded it with 1200 wet & dry and started masking it again.
The talc in the ivory paint worked well as a filler then found a problem reaching the filler to sand it smooth coffee stirrers some PVA glue and some 120 grit powder did the job.
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Resanded the bottom with 2000 wet & dry wet resprayed when dry I'm happy with it now left it a few days and masked the bottom ready for above waterline paint.
The pop stick sanders were a flop wouldn't fit between the hand railings so shaved down some 1/4sq and put the grit on it next day it worked well. also fitted a dowel pin in the base of the funnel and marked and drilled it's position on the roof along with the other fittings shown on plan.
Today I started cutting out the wheel covers.
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Also finished sanding the upper superstructure ready for paint tomorrow as it'll be a nice warm day.
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good and precise work, Damian!
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Thanks Thomas.
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The ivory paint went on ok until I was almost ready to turn her over to spray the lower deck cabin wall then CRAAAAACK and a piece of said wall fell on floor.
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Really regretting using balsa for this and of course holding weight of hull in one hand at the stern Grrrrrr should have learned when it happened spraying the primer.
Lovely frame of mind it's left me in for the festive season.
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Well went out after dinner and patched her up.
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Super glued the piece in place some filler tomorrow. The inside will get some polyester resin and some 25mm glass tape as a precaution against further oooop's
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I rather like the ivory colour.
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Polyfiller mixed with a little ivory paint (tried to buy more at local supercheap auto store as I only have 1 airbrush bottle full left, but they no longer sell the smaller tins and no way I'm buying any more of the bigger tins that don't dry)
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1" or 25mm glass fibre tape laid inside with polyester resin.
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After a big lunch sitting at pooter trying hard to stay awake I decided to head for the w/shop
Sanded and remasked
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:)Hello;
With balsa construction, breaks are common during movement.
Nice recovery and repair "concrete".
Happy end of the year
:beer
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Thanks mate cheers to you :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer
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Not a happy chappy Set Josie up ready for final olive spraying last time I filled the airbrush bottle I obviously hadn't put the lid on properly when I vigorously shook it to mix ready said lid flew off & my black T Shirt and shorts my arms , legs and chest through said T shirt & singlet.
T shirt, singlet and shorts went straight in the workshop rubbish bin.
Said bottle ended up upright unter bench with 5ml of paint left nowhere near enough to finish the job.
The clean up of me the bench and storage containers under the bench used 200Ml of thinners a a draw full of rags and lots of colourful language I'll just blame it on the HOT weather.
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:) Hello, what?
The weather is always guilty (you need one)
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More convenient than admitting my own forgetfulness :shoot :shoot lol
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Bought 2 spray cans of ivory on ebay cheaper than a small tin plus taxi to hardware store coming from Sydney should have them monday or tuesday. depending on how close they are in colour to that already sprayed may have to respray all the ivory a few days will tell.
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The price of hard learned lessons :) :)
T-shirt.
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Shorts.
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And all that's left of a once full bottle.
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The only way forward is to laugh at ones mistakes and move on.
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The base discs for the lower deck handrail stanchions will now be made on the lathe from 6mm/1/4" pre drilled 1mm then turned to 4mm dia then cut to 3mm thickness with a razor saw whilst still spinning leaving a little to be cut by hand so they don't disappear into the shavings dust.
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Can't win finally received the ivory spray paint a test shows a darker yellow than the previous ivory I airbrushed so I'll have to spray it all again not today currently 29.6c with a 20km wind across where I usually spray.
The 6mm dowel was put in chuck of lathe and using an extra long 1mm drill drilled the stanchion hole 50mm deep then turned it to 4 and a bit mm emery board took it to 4mm then moved it further out of the chuck to allow hand clearance from the chuck for the last bit, then with razor saw in right hand and left hand steadying the dowell & ready to catch the parted itsy bitsy bit of dowell I proceeded to cut the 15 req'd.
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No paint today warm weathers gone away and rain has come our way forecast said 28c currently 20.7c with 94% humidity
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Got the paint on yesterday the spray can Ivory is considerably more yellow than previous Ivory I airbrushed, checked on it today whilst surface dry it needs a few days to a week to harden.
On checking the rear deck level cabin walls I found some wrigley grey lines I've no idea why the grey primer rejects top coat paint in little lines.
Sprayed some ivory into a plastic cup and added talc to it and filled the imperfections.
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I'm pleased with the upper decks paint.
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as pic' shows I'm thinking on the wheel boxes build next.
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The funnel and associated fittings are ready to install, the bow & stern mast ect, are done and treated with brass blackening and look good.
The windows all 50 of them are ready to install my wife gave me a craft punch 10mm sq I used to cut window panes from 150mm self adhesive mirror tiles, then cut them from black card and trimmed to the outer shape of the window frames pics tomorrow.
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The bow & stern masts the curved one is close to bow mast no idea what it's for though.
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The stanchion bases although using a 1mm centre drill as pic shows it still drifted off centre not doing more though.
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Still some cleaning up to do.
I also sanded and sprayed the stern cabin wall and the grey crack lines appeared again lost for a cause as they were't showing prior to spraying perhaps I'll put life buoys over them.
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I reckon its to hang the anchor from. I never did one of those...another detail I missed on the plan!
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That stands to reason. :beer
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Yes the Anchor is on the deck close by.
Just to be fitted with block and tackle.
The boat coming along well. Have you thought how much it might weigh to sail it.
Mike.
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Thanks Mike hadn't considered weight however did consider wind and choppy water and added 1/2" or 12mm freeboard the lake is approx 2km x 1km or 1.2mile x .64mile and at times has a 100mm or 4" chop.
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Yesterdays paint ran slightly on port side where I was over enthusiastic trying to cover the primer breakthrough.
yesterdays coat almost covered the grey breakthrough, so far todays seems to have covered it I hope so I'm already worried the upper decks won't fit.
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I discovered a grey primer break through line approx 60mm long about 1.5mm in height 2 to 3mm above portside stern deck I bought some 4mm pinstripe tape to solve the problem around the outside of the entire stern deck level cabin.
Finally took a pic of the windows awaiting installation.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0745.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/96)
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I'm so over this model but it won't beat me, I removed the standard masking paper from the bottom of hull and all was good when I removed the blue polypropylene tape it left a flat finish and removed several match head sized pieces of the brown paint.
I'm hoping cutting compound will restore the gloss finish.
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After seeing the price of cutting gel decided it's not worth trying I'll just mask and spray again.
Thought I may have some left from my Hillclimb car build though was mistaken.
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The Cargo/equipment doors, the back is 1/16" or 1,5mm door frames from 2mm x 3mm balsa, cut strips for the cabin door fronts from .3mm x 4mm veneer.
This pic shows the the build sequence.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0746.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/97)
Glued some 6mm x 10mm balsa temporarily on the door backs to allow finger grips for sanding the door frames flat to veneer.
The pic also shows 3 of the cabin door back ready for the frame pieces one still needed.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0747.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/98)
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Started on the passenger doors had to dump 2 as the frame rails were held to tight and the rails ended up slanted inwards.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0748.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/99)
The 1.5mm brass rod will become door handles.
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Finished the narrower doors this morning and applied a coat of dope to seal the grain left it several hours and applied a coat of satin clear this is the result.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0810.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/100)
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ The clear didn't like the dope obviously by the cloudiness.
Another lesson learned as air in shed turned rainbow colours into the bin they went.
Start again tomorrow using 5mm x 3mm planks used on bow & stern decks.
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The timber is actually 4.1mm x 2.2mm brown and white 5.26mm x 2.2mm
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0811.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/101)
For the narrower door the white rails are edge on leaving considerable sanding to do.
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Trimmed and sanded smooth not an easy task pushing 2mm wood back & forth on 280 grit sand paper nails on 3 fingers are rather strangely manicured lol, rails for sliding cargo doors fitted not final sanded yet.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0813.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/103)
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The sliding doors morphed into hinged doors as they were to high. opp's
The cut and polish sort of worked it can stay as it is now.
I've hidden the worst of the primer bleed through with some woven 3mm dia cord liberally coated with dope and hung to dry with a weight on the end and left overnight to dry.
Next day a bead of balsa glue put around lower deck-cabin join.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0820.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/111)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0819.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/110)
Started on windows for the want of correct word the top the rear of the upper deck roof using 2 7mm strip of mirror tile and 3mm brown pinstripe tape, the lined strip of paper at the top of the pic had the correct spacing for the frame uprights i used it to mark the spacing on the wood for the position of the frame uprights.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0818.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/109)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0821.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/112)
Had to call it quits too dangerous to work with double vision it comes And goes a side effect of radiation treatment to the head.
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Trimmed and pleased it fitted perfectly.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0822.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/113)
Started fitting the pre-made windows.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0823.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/114)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0825.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/116)
The six doors with mirror tile windows and door handles cut from 50mm pins with double sided tape fitted to back.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0824.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/115)
The larger Cargo and passenger doors fitted to forward wall.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0826.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/117)
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Mid deck forward windows fitted. (note to self do all these fiddly bits before fitting the railings)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0827.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/118)
Got 3/4 of the mid deck rear done and what I thought was aligned well wasn't by a long shot more fun (not) removing the duds held not only with double sided tape but also super glue where they were on curves the mirror tile plastic was less inclined to bend and overcame the sticky backing. Equally hard to get things aligned well with double vision & with one eye shut. Gave up for the day.
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All windows fitted some slightly crooked but the best my eyes and shaky hand can do.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0829.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/120)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0828.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/119)
Found I was still 2 doors short they're ready to install thursday as tomorrow we're off to the big smoke for 3 specialist appt's that'll take most of the day
First time in 24yrs they're all on same day.
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All windows fitted some slightly crooked but the best my eyes and shaky hand can do.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0829.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/120)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0828.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/119)
Interesting tricks of light that makes Ivory yellow look pink.
Found I was still 2 doors short they're ready to install thursday as tomorrow we're off to the big smoke for 3 specialist appt's that'll take most of the day
First time in 24yrs they're all on same day.
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Fitted the stanchions for the lower deck railings .9mm holes, .9mm brass rod and super glue also fitted final two doors yesterday.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0830.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/122)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0831.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/123)
also prepared the railings using some low voltage cable approx 600mm long, I stripped off the outer coating formed a loop at one end, bent a hook on a piece of bike spoke and fitted it to drill which Jo operated at slowest speed whilst I applied finger pressure as it turned to produce a quality cable in next pic.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0832.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/124)
Todays effort trim stanchions and start soldering the railings.
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Railings added yet to trim the solder.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0834.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/126)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0833.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/125)
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Masking needed prior to painting stanchions and rails thought of masking with a hole to fit around the stanchion diameter then slit so it'd slide in place paper tape was too flimsy so i retrieved the blue plastic tape from bin.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0835.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/127)
The blue in place over the stanchion bases bready for the paper mask tape to fill the gaps & cover the deck.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0836.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/128)
Gaps filled.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0837.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/129)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0838.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/130)
The brushable yellow proved to be too yellow after a few days drying I'll use some white spray enamel to lighten it.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0839.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/131)
Meanwhile I'll do some more on the upper superstructure.
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Yesterday, It turned out I had some of the ivory yellow left so sprayed some into a small can and waited half an hour for some thinners to evaporate and brushed it over the darker yellow left it an hour and brushed a second coat looks good left it another hour and removed the masking bent the rails a bit removing the tape with tweezers they'll straighten up OK though.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0841.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/133)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0842.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/134)
Today, I drew up some forward deck gates as pic shows only got half of one gate internals cut when double vision put paid to safe shed time for today.
Looking good so far.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0843.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/135)
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Got some more done on the paddle boxes from 5mm balsa cut 4 half circles for inside the box walls they'll give extra glue surface to glue the top to out side was easy after rough cutting I used the disc sander on the outer edge scratched my head on best way to do the inside then remembered the Dremel & router bits Damien Jr had given me which I'd previously made a mounting fixture that's held in a workmate foldable bench/vice.
I fitted a 10mm / 3/8th sanding drum which made short work of the inner curve.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0845.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/137)
I started to mount the front & rear walls then it hit me I hadn't yet finished the fronts so mounted a 3mm router bit in the dremel.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0844.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/136)
and easily routed to the lines. Once I've glued the half circles on on & are dry I'll carve/sand the inside edge to 45deg.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0846.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/138)
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The gates have their last coat of paint,
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0847.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/139)
Balsa 1/2 circles sanded to 45deg after glue dried.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0849.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/141)
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you just have to laugh at yourself sometimes while putting fittings together to finish the upper superstructure spent 90 mins searching for A funnel fitting 20mm x 20mm x 3mm 90 deg bend eventually found it already attached to the funnel.
I'll glue the backs on monday too hot since 1-30 pm today and guests for lunch tomorrow.
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Got the backs on after dinner last night and the curved outer curved skins on this morning after everything was set up for the guests.
Tried to pin them in place without success so went with rubber bands never ending supply from postal deliveries.
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(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0852.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/144)
One pair of gates in place ready for a slight lift once epoxy is applied.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0851.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/143)
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Guests a nephew & his new bride arrived at 3-30pm for lunch and left around 5-30, I skipped the evening meal, helped Jo clean up the dishes and escaped to the shed to trim the wheel boxes only to discover super glue doesn't bond balsa to marine ply very well after scraping it off I reglued it with 5 min epoxy.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0854.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/146)
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Some filler in the pin holes tomorrow then a coat of polyester resin to the insides of the boxes.
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Paddle boxes look great sitting in place on superstructure, although not quite in their correct positions.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0857.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/149)
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The polyester resin applied to the insides cured and a coat of dope was applied to the outsides had dinner and went out and sanded it ready for primer tomorrow with a top of 20c or 68f it'll be ideal.
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Excellent work there Damien, Josie Olsen is coming along very nicely. I like the way you tackle the awkward jobs particularly the hand rails. Well done :)
Robert
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:beer Thanks Robert, all was going well until I sprayed the olive enamel over the grey primer filler over the paddle boxes it obviously reacts with enamel but is OK with acrylic paint I left them to dry and installed the rigging lines on the mast on top of the aft top deck fitting.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/151)
Then installed the Funnel.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0911.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/152)
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Looks like I'll getaway with the paint on the boxes a light coat seems to have coverd ok
Modify message
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Wrong again the corners of the curves still showed grey primer after 2 coats hopefully the third will cover it.
That's it for spray cans back to Airbrush where you control the paint to thinner consistency and the pressure of the airbrush..
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0913.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/154)
The Funnel stays anchored.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0912.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/153)
Bow mast and Anchor davit?
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0914.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/155)
Interesting omission on this plan/model although there's stairs and door into the wheel house there's no stairs or ladders to get up there.
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Not a lot I can do on the superstructure until the paint hardens on the wheel boxes.
Back to the engine with the 1.6mm pin for the piston to rocker arm loose in the slides there was a tendency to bind so instead of the 4mm square brass tube I'd originally prepared some time ago, and lack of 4mm square solid brass I cut a strip from some 2mm x 90mm Sq plate 4.15mm wide cut to 20mm lengths tinned with solder then joined joined to 2- 4mm x 4mm x 20mm pieces drilled 1.6mm hole counter sunk on back of one and soldered the pin to it then filed them to fit the channel.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0916.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/157)
A plastic washer to each side will stop the drift on right hand side.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0915.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/156)
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I too had problems with this assembly binding. Mine is made out of plastic components and I struggled to get the geometry precise enough!!!
Story of my life!
I must say Damien your version of this boat looks really good...congratulations!
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Thanks mate I'll be thrilled when it's finished though.
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Paddle boxes epoxied in in place.
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A little bit of filler where the connect to the deck I'll spray some ivory paint into a small plastic tub and add some plaster as the filler hopefully after sanding it'll only need one coat to finish them off.
Did some more on the piston slides 5 x 2mm washers hold it nicely and without oil it travels up and down very smoothly the pivot joints held with 2mm threaded rod with a nyloc nut on each end.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0918.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/170)
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The interior view above totally confused me until I looked at your other post pictures and saw the same image again?!
Sins of old age I guess?? lol!!!
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Now I saw it now I dont!!
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lol as you say old age lol
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I had made locking discs for the wheel drive to output shafts but after searching for an hour so I butchered another motor to shaft coupler to make another pair of lock rings as shown in the pic.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0921.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/173)
Both wheel box to deck joint gaps filler with Pollyfiller powder mixed in ivory paint, tomorrow I'll decant some more of the Ivory spray paint to an airbrush bottle and touch up the sanding marks and the few bits of paint removed when I took the small piece of trim tape off each side prior to installing the boxes.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0922.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/174)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0923.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/175)
Something else that's gone missing are the 2 drive axles as I was ready for this next pic.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0924.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/176)
Any ideas on what colour the wheel should be please?
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Any ideas on what colour the wheel should be please? .....automotive RED primer......or Rust-oleum Gloss Colonial Red ...[from Bunnings]....
This Rust-oleum is advertised as primer/gloss...[& I am usually sceptical with any advertisement] however I am rather impressed with 2 coats on sanded aluminium sheet :clap
Derek
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Thanks Derek. :beer :beer
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The engine and beam works beautifully nice and smooth, had to make minor change to the motor mounting plate with a bit of lock I'll get a video of it working tomorrow.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0925.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/177)
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The motor pulley needs a large size increase I hooked it up to 7.2v nicad pack and count the paddles as they passed a market point I imagine it would slow further if it was in water.
It's a 12v 2000 rpm geared motor I'll play with sizes until it's right.
Something I learned though is the weight of the motor is not enough to maintain good belt to pulley tension a light hand contact on the wheel caused the motor pulley to climb the belt I'll have to add a spring either tension or compression which ever is easiest to fit unseen.
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Just remember that full size walking beams moved slow. You don't want it to look like a sewing machine.
Gerald.
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Thanks Gerald,
I put the digital tachometer on it with 12v supply from my power supply built at Tech school way back in the seventies it gave 57.75 rpm at these rev's the beam was rather slow although it runs very smoothly.
My camera takes stills & video but I can't workout the video part :'( :'( :'( :'(
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New pulley turned a little under double the diameter of the original, still have to drill & tap for the grub screw the pic also shows the spring I'll somehow attach to apply light pressure the drive belt.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0926.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/178)
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The new pulley increases the wheel revs to 79 rpm so I removed the main pulley chucked it in lathe and reduced the diameter by about 5mm then cut the new pulley groove put it back together and the batteries ion the tacho were flat, tomorrow's another day.
That will be spent vacuuming the dust from machining the body filler main pulley it's everywhere.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0927.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/179)
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:) Hello;
It seems to me that your "strap" is very loose (not tight enough), no; and is it glued with cyanoacrylate glue.
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I know you were having problems with video Damien, but I'd love to see a video of it in action if you can manage it?
Regards
Eddy
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I was holding it tight While doing the tests, I still have to make the attachment points and the rod for the centre of the spring.
Eddy I've worked out how to take the videos I just have to learn how to put them on youtube now.
Can anyone give me an estimate of the expected paddle RPM please?
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I know you were having problems with video Damien, but I'd love to see a video of it in action if you can manage it?
Regards
Eddy
I've got it recording Just have to figure out how to post to youtube now. lol
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A piece of scrap 8mm plywood solved the belt tension hassle.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0929.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/181)
The pulley mod's produced 123 rpm
As requested Eddy Motor & beam in action.
https://youtu.be/Jhp-iL65hL0
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Looks really good in the video Damien - A job well done!
Regards
Eddy
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Thanks Eddy.
Some 3mm spiked nuts arrived today I'll put them in hull tags to hold the motor assembly in place tomorrow.
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:) Hello
Top :clap :no1b
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Thanks matey.
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Nuts fitted my guess of keel to motor clearance was a close call if the belt stretches even a little the motor tray will hit the keel.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0930.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/182)
with top 2 decks in place she looks good.
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(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0933.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/185)
A few more picks.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0935.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/187)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0932.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/184)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0934.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/186)
There's not much room inside for the radio and batteries I've ordered 10 x 6ooo mAH sub C batteries on ebay I'll build 2 packs of 5 cells and velcro them to hull walls then worry about the Rx & Rx battery then think on the speed controller placement.
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:) Hello ;
It's getting more and more fun, a big cheer Damien :clap
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:beer :beer :beer :beer
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All most finished Josie's body art, she's looking good still have her name to do.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0936.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/188)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/img_0937.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/189)
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She is looking very good indeed Damien :clap......... looking forward to her on the water..................Derek
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Thanks Derek,
I do plan to start sailing again it just struck me a few days ago that besides the weeds I'm worried about falling in the during launch and retrieve process I can't even pic up the dogs waste without leaning against something.
I bought one of these trolleys on ebay and will modify it lo launch models and if I have to I'll also extend the handle.
It folds flat and will hang on the back of my mobility scooter.
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/16/57/96/23/s-l16013.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/16579623/190)
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Hi Derek,
your model looks very good! Did you already made a water test? If yes, what`s about stability?
Thomas
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Sorry - of course Damian...
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No not yet Thomas but I did give her an extra 12mm depth of draught.
It wouldn't dare have anymore problems it knows I'll take a hammer to it :hammer :hammer :hammer :hammer
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Very impressive build Damien...Congratulations on an impressive end result!
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Thanks matey.
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Got a video of the piston slide in action.
https://youtu.be/n0nfTjZX2k0
and the drive end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPDewqEdZoo
Took a dremel with a 50mm saw blade followed by 10mm sanding wheel and removed excess deck and bulkhead material inside work area to make room for R/c gear and batteries.
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Thomas, I got the test tank out and found it hadn't weathered the extremes of weather well and the fibreglass had delaminated all around the top edges, I finished repairs the" I thought " filled it with water and it still leaks like a sieve where I added extra width for paddle boxes more work needed, however I got 4 pics of Josie, with the motor mounted port side of centre she leans considerably to port as the pics show.
This will be addressed by battery, Rx & speed controller placement.
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Looks good, Damian. Relative to nautic stability - from my experiences with paddlers three situations of nautic stability are possible when the model is sailing:
1. It`s quite as stabil like it is only floating - the ideal state.
2. There is a tendence of list, when it`s sailing fast (long and narrow hull, no toplast - tendence of my "Courier")
3. A tendence of list, when the model sails slow but sufficient stability when it sails fast (toplast through heavy superstructure - tendence of Mount Washington)
If the hulls breadth is enougt, then it should reach point 1.
Thomas
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Thanks Thomas. :beer :beer :beer :beer
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Ok course Damien....as Thomas suggests
You still have the top weight of the paddles, so trial again at home with the battery/s laid on the sides and as low as possible
The vessel looks very good ......and on water with the motion of the engine drive will add to the sloshing of water :great
Derek
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:beer :beer
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The 12 x 6000mAH Nicads should arrive from Hong Kong this week as should 2 x 1kg cans of polyester resin from Cardiff NSW.
Just finished helping Jo ( The love of my life ) mow the tiny bit of lawn we have and wiped me out for the day pooter & movies for next 12hrs.
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:) Hello ;
MAGNIFICENT ! :bravo :clap
For the stability of walking, a friend who built the stadium Zurich had to install a counterweight at the end of a piano wire he only came out at the launch, so invisible out of the water, it avoided the waddling in navigation ...
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:beer :beer
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Excellent work there Damien, A boat to be proud of. Sort out the list issue and give her the maiden voyage. :bravo :clap :beer
Robert
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A bit of balancing magic needed as besides the list she's stern heavy hopefully fixed with with the placement of batteries, Rx and speed controller.
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Started on the rudder fittings 4 - 6mm dia pulleys and the tiller arm. The shape of the stern cabin limits choices for activating the tiller at present the servo horn and tiller arm will be aligned with the the bow, I'll dig out a Tx, Rx and battery To determine if the servo horn needs to be reversed for correct Tx stick to rudder movement so I can select placement for the pulleys an their small towers.
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Cleaned and vacuumed the shed yesterday when finished the shed gremlins had made off with the tiller arm, the four pulleys were still there though.
Made another arm today after searching thru the vac bag and the rubbish bin without finding the missing arm.
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Drilled and tapped the tiller arm 3mm for the grub screw, started cutting scrap 10mm x 7mm pine for the pulley mounts and forgot how big my butt is and knocked the motor beam assembly to the concrete floor smashing the motor mount pivot assembly hinge points.
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Repairs went well.
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Servo to tiller pulleys and cord added and mounted a quick test showed it works well.
With a small spring on either side of the fitting on the servo arm maintaining tension on the braided cord the same cord used on funnel and mats stays.
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Couldn't get anymore done as we had a major catastrophe one ear on Jo's computer headphones died been expecting it as mine died a fortnight ago not a bad run from Sennheiser headphones salvaged 35 years ago from the waste bin at 3ccc then a local community radio where I was a technician and rewired not surprised really the stereo cord I rewired with was rather brittle after after so long.
I had an emergency run to Kmart for headphones lol
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Finally success with the test tank four tries and 400ml of resin later and no leaks. :great :great
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Red ochre primer on the wheels a few days to dry & I'll spray them with satin clear.
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I found a few spots on the wheels that were lite on primer coverage so touched them up today.
Then thinking on weight placement of batteries, ESC & Rx I removed most of bulkhead 2 to give more room closer to bow for weight placement a 20mm saw in dremel made easy work of the bulkhead & a 12mm sanding drum in dremel cleaned it up.
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Hmmm battery packs to be decided in float test as 10-3000 Ma AA pack weighs 173g where the 10-6000Ma sub C's weigh 398g
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4 rare earth magnets one to each corner to hold the the upper decks in place.
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Paddles ready for use.
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I've struck a problem worked at it for 2 1/2 hours without a fix The upper decks sit in place perfectly and the magnets hold well when I add the motor assembly with or without the wheels the upper decks no longer fit correctly and rock up & down with the approximate axle position as the pivot point it has me stumped nothing on the upper structure is in contact with the axle or motor assembly.
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Magnets gone, bolts it is I have some 3mm bolts and captive nuts chilly day tomorrow 3c overnight and only 8c top tomorrow with 80% chance of 10mm of rain may just sit near heater all day.
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Maybe the edge of a paddle wheel is eccentric and fouling the housing/cover??
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I've tried it with and without the wheels with the same result, didn't venture out to shed today our expected top of 8c was a tad high our top was 6.2c at 2pm Brrrrrrrrrrr mixed with 10mm of rain.
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So must be related to the beam oscillating mechanism?
Sorry about your weather!
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Weather front is straight off the antarctic coldest may weather in 20 years.
http://m.weatherzone.com.au/vic/central/ballarat
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Problem mostly solved with a length of wire I measured from the bow to the paddle shaft where it exits the hull both sides where they exit the hull and found a 5mm discrepancy meaning the shafts were not a 90deg to the centre line that's now been fixed.
Then another problem became apparent how the heck do I bolt down the bow upper deck section down through two decks best I can think of is 3mm Id brass or Aluminium tube between the decks
The 2 stern screws are easy enough to set up.
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Damien she looks really good despite all the little problems!
On my version the superstructure is all one piece from the deck-line up. It just sits down on the main deck with some balsa blocks to position/hold it. Takes a bit of skill/patience to get on and off lol!!!!!
Still havn't got round to building styrene paddle wheels to replace the existing warped balsa ones.....
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Thanks Bernie,
To disguise the bolts I think I'll disguise them as mushroom vents.
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First of four mushroom vents made, started with 10mm dowel chucked in lathe using a centre drill to start the centre hole then a 2.5mm drill 8mm deep or just below the mushroom head, the dimensions are 6mm stem dia 8mm long, the head 10mm dia & 2mm thick slightly under cut to look more like a vent the 2.5mm hole needed just a little relief to be a firm fit for the 3mm for a stainless threaded rod to make it's pwn thread in the wood.
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Any ideas of a colour welcome please.
This one had the whiskers removed after I took the the pic.
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Good job Damien, I would stick with the cream as on the prototype I imagine they would like the vents to be inconspicuous.
Robert
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:beer :beer Thanks Robert I was thinking that also.
Not much shed time for today & tomorrow we both have Doctor visits this arvo and a mate of 46yrs is visiting tomorrow were going to the Robin Hood pub for lunch.
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What....this one :06......... :beer
https://www.bermuda.com/robin-hood-pub/
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No the one in Ballarat Vic. Derek lol
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Steak, salad, chips & a beer....talk with old friends about ships & model ships...... enjoy....... :beer..... Derek
PS1....ask Maid Marion to throw a few of those Mushrooms on the steak
PS2....tell that Friar Tuck to keep out of the beer cellar......................
:whistle
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What an imagination you have, It'll probably be Seniors chicken parma for us & maybe a Bacardi & cola for me probably a cola for Jo probably no grog for my mate as he's recovering from a serious neck injury.
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4 mushroom vents turned and fitted to 3mm threaded rod, actually I turned 8 of them as I cut them from the dowel spinning in the lathe with a razor saw 4 vanished into the will blue yonder at the moment of separation the'll show up eventually. :oops :oops :oops
2 ready for dope sealer the other 2 will be chucked in cordless drill & with drill running will be sanded to the mushroom dome as the others were.
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;) Hello;
Oops as you say, but not lost forever ... one day maybe? Good idea to hide "locks" with aerators
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Damian, your model looks excellent. It`s also a good solution to disguise the bolts with the mushroom vents. But how about the nautical stability of the boat?
Thomas
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Thanks Thomas I've float tested her she's stern heavy and leans to port I think judicial placement of batteries and RC gear will overcome these problems at least I hope so.
The lean to port is because of the drive motor placement.
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Brackets to mount the hold down nuts to, dope applied I'll epoxy in place prior to drilling the pilot holes.
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The mushroom vents were doped as well but forgot to take pic.
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First of brackets for the captive nuts epoxied in place.
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Second,
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All 4,
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No need for worry about brass tube for hiding the mushroom vent screws between upper and mid decks.
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These extra long drills 1.5mm to 4mm very handy in situations like accurately drilling through 2 decks.
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Got the holes drilled bolts with mushroom vents in place.
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Decided they'd look better with a base to look like a seal where the vents come through the decks.
The knurled nuts are holding them in place as the glue dries.
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The same will be done for the top & bottom of the brass tubes for the Forward vents.
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Decided the next 4 would be more accurate if turned on the lathe mounted them on 4mm bolts with dual nuts to stop them undoing mid turning.
The centre hole was drilled 3.5mm and enlarged with a burr in dremel for an exact fit on the brass tube.
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Turned to 9.8mm finished to 9.69mm with a 180 grit sanding board.
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Painted the mushroom vents look good.
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The forward brackets with the rivnuts (rivet nuts) in place.
I decided on Rivnuts epoxied into brackets as there wasn't enough room for the captive nuts.
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and a view of the brass tubes with upper and lower glands in place
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Grrrrrrr finally got into the shed ready to apply decals only to discover I'd printed Josie's name on sticky back white paper by mistake instead of decal paper.
Have printed on decal paper will hit it with clear tomorrow.
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Grrrr even sprayed flat and left horizontal it somehow slid sideways :oops :oops :oops :oops :oops
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Sprayed some clear into a cup then put it in an airbrush bottle added thinners then sprayed the decal paper worked well with the thin coat of acrylic clear.
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I've been pondering how to stop water ingress at the slot the paddle shaft sits in the deck covers most of it on the inside with still enough room for considerable water ingress.
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Decided on 2mm pvc and asked missus very nicely if she had any thin felt in her craft stuff I scored some 1mm white felt made her a :coffee
The plan is to saturate the felt with oil or melted grease. Ideas welcome.
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Sitting in position when assembled and bolted in position I'll fit a collar or perhaps a spring between the wheels to the paddle shaft to hold the cover in place.
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The decal for Josie's name decal on one side had a fault so I applied a wet rag and soaked it off and made another today all being well I'll apply it tomorrow as well.