Paddleducks
Paddler Modelling => Construction => Topic started by: vk2dj on November 07, 2015, 05:58:34 PM
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G'day PDs just a couple of pic of my build of PS Adelaide started last weekend I cut the bulkheads out of hardwood ply not the best material to work with as it splinters Easley I then screwed them together then mounted them in the milling machine to cut the keel slot ,then screwed them to the building board .
After I finished mounting them I had a thought that if I put a base board on my band saw table & just cut a slot the width of the blade it might cut better with out splintering which it did, the band saw I have is not a wood cutting one but a slow speed metal cutting one but will have to do as I can't justify buying another saw
Gary
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G'day Gary,
That's not real bad for a weekend's work! Just wondering, what type of glue are you using? And what timber will you use to plank it with?
Hope you are able to keep progress pics coming - nice to see how a 'proper' build progresses (as opposed to my Mary Ann build).
I have used Gorilla glue, and reckon it's fantastic - certainly a very strong glue.
Jeff (1949)
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A great day's work. :clap :bravo :clap :bravo
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G'day Jeff the timber I am using some close grain Oregon that I have had lying around for ever waiting for a project, I tried Jelutong a very fine grain timber from Malaysia it machines well used a lot for pattern making for foundry work but does not bend around tight bends well with out cracking .
I had to make a small table saw with a 2 mm carbide blade to rip it up a the large table saw that I have is not suitable
for small work I have cut all the planking material that I will need to plank the hull
I am using a home steam cleaner to steam the Oregon because of the close grain it bends & twists great
As far as glues go I have tried several polly,epoxy,J &B epoxy,araldite epoxy & Titebond 3 after doing several test glues
have decided on Titebond 3 , the glue i would like to have used was an epoxy from America that I used to use about 35 years ago when I was into model power boats called K&B Hobby Poxy but doesn't seem to be around any more at least here in Australia I used to thin it down & completely coat the inside of the model which soaked into the timber & completely sealed the model against Nitro Methane fuels oil & water
Gary
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G'day Gary, Thanks for that info. I will be using thin strips of Oregon for my decking when I get to that stage. Local timber merchant had to trim some 1 inch planks a while ago, and had several dozen very long strips about 3 mm thick. I will still need to rip them to about 6mm wide, but I think my table saw should do it - has a fairly fine blade. Just love the smell of Oregon and Cedar, and they are great timbers to work with.
Not being at all familiar with plans for boats, especially the Adelaide, I was wondering what your motor/drive set up will be? I may well have to revise my own plans after I see how my two tiny - but powerful - worm drive motors go in powering my own build. Going to be a couple of weeks yet before I get her on the water for a test drive though.
Any more photo's?
Jeff
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G'day Jeff I will be fitting a live steam plant I have a couple of engines that might be suitable for the job if not I will build
one also the boiler I am waiting until the hull is of the building board
Ok on the Oregon strips its hard to get good wood these days, at the moment I am planking the hull no pic at the moment a slow process
Gary
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G'day All just one photo of the slow planking process , in between gluing planks I am making a small drum sander to save hand sanding the planks as there small saw marks on the planks which require a lot of elbow grease to remove it will also bring them all to size
Gary
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G'day all a couple of pic of the slow progress on the planking can only do 1 to 1 1/2 planks a day , I have just done my first test with my home brew [plank thickness sander which after a few little teething problems is finally working I wish I had made it before I had started with the planking the finish with the home made table saw is not up to scratch it leaves saw marks on the timber now the planks will all be uniform thickness & a smooth finish the hull is going to take quite some sanding to get the finish I want ,I don't want to sand it to much as the original planking on the Adelaide PS is quite rough.
The sander is made from bits scrounged from the junk box with the exception of the toothed drive for the sanding drum the motor is out of a redundant Kenwood Chef mix master the feed roller is out of an old commercial photo copy machine
Gary
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Forgot to add the sander still has the dust extractor pipe to be fitted & covers on the sides to cover up the belts & chain
Gary
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Hi Gary, Yeah, progress can be slow sometimes. But going by the photo's, slow and steady is producing great results. And that sander is a beauty!
Not done a thing on Mary Ann for a week - but will get back into it tomorrow evening I hope. Kepp upthe great work!
Jeff
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Very skillful use of recycled parts Gary.
Great work.
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I'm enjoying you build very much Gary. :clap :clap :clap :clap
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G'day Fellow PDs just a couple of pic of the slow progress of planking the hull
Gary
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Morning Gary......is this a new or second hull?.....if so is the scale increased?...& finally what did you choose with respect to the draft?......
I must pop down to Dapto one day and take a look see.......Derek :beer
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Happy new year to all, progress on the hull planking finished & removed from building board there a couple of gaps in the planking due to the clamps coming loose during gluing ,at the moment filling the gaps with epoxy from the inside
While the hull was still on the building board I clamped it to the mill table & drilled the rudder pivot pin hole to keep it square ,next job is to cut & fix the deck beams
Gary
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G'day fellow modellers not a lot of progress as also working on another project started on the deck beams
Gary
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Looking great Gary, the way I see the plan is 16 athwart hull sponson beams.......
Do you plan to set the hull up on the [metal] machine milling table & mill the 3.3 x 4.4 slots for the beams...& all in each single pass?....
Would be a super way of ensuring trueness, alignment & squareness & also between port & stdb sides....etc ... Derek
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G'day Gents a couple pic of the progress of fitting the deck timbers I have started fitting the deck sheeting onto which I am going to glue the planks to the ply is 1/16" & the planks will also be 1/16" Progress has been slow as I am also working on my 5" loco build
Gary
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G'day all fitted up the rudder today to check before starting the painting of the hull
Gary
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Great job of the rudder Gary this boat is is progressing beautifully. :great :clap :bravo
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G'day all its been a while since I have made any progress on the Adelaide been working on other projects the main reason I stopped work on the build was the steam plant I was going to install in it was going to be to big not enough room & way over powered it would be like putting a V8 motor into a Mini Minor I was going to scrap the build & start another build but decided I had put to much work into it so I am going to finish it & install twin electric motors which will be controlled buy a Sabertooth motor controller as used in robotics with a normal R/C remote transmitter I will try & post some picof progress
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:) Hello;
Nice, very nice carpentry work.
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G'day All progress on the Adelaide's super structure I have made the rear cover removable to allow access to the radio gear I plan to make the whole super structure removable by fitting 4mm dowels to all the support posts for easy access to the motors
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Looking really good Gary. :clap :clap :clap :clap
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G'day All Thanks Damien its coming along slowly making a few mistakes along the way but learning better ways of doing things when the Adelaide is finished I have a set of plans for the Osca W I will scale it up from 1/24 to 1/20 same scale as the Adelaide I have already started collecting materials when on a recent holiday to south Australia I called into Koondrook on the Victorian side of the Murray River it has the last remaining saw mill that has a licence to harvest Murray river red gum timber the same material that most of the paddle steamers were made off .I was able to scrounge a slab of red gum for the next build it is kiln dried & as hard as nails will have to get a new carbide saw blade before cutting
More progress on the Adelaide
Gary
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Hi All work on the paddle box detail before anybody comments about the paddle box access hatch is incorrect I only picked it up when I went to photograph it and the glue had already set as it will be hard to see once installed it will have to do
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Excellent and very precise built!
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G'day All PDs working on the upper deck today
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Happy New Year to all just finished the roof timbers ready to fit the roof ply then start on the wheel house
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Got the roof glued on today now on to the wheel house
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:D Hello;
Beautiful building
Bravos :clap
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This is a Fabulous build. Well done. :terrific :great
Mike.
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Thanks for the positive comments started on the wheel house today early stages a lot of detail not sure how to go about the roof as the tow pole stays go through the roof as I want to be able to remove the super structure I will have to devise a way of disconnecting the stays Easley
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Nice work Mate. I'm building my first paddle boat and it's a stern wheeler. not based on any ship, just built for fun. I like to wood work skills.
Myself I'm going fiberglass since I want this to be able to last a long time in the water. I have seen so many models ruined by water seeping in the wood.
Since this is my first paddle boat and I work at the local mens shed, I plan to build a few different ships on the one type of hull. When I get a but of work done I make my own post.
B.T.W. where did you get your plans?
Keep up the great work.
Mick
Tumut
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G’day Mick the plans are from Float A Boat in Melbourne just Google them the Adelaide I am building has been scaled up to 1 - 20 scale to try & fit a twin cylinder steam engine that I have butt when I built the Hull I realised it was to big so I am fitting 2 electric motors with an o/p of 200rpm then geared down to 150rpm driven with a Sabertooth dual o/p speed controller which accepts the PWM signal from the rc. control
As far as fiberglassing the hull it will make it more durable I just coated the hull with 2 coats of Z epoxy finishing product thinned the first coat down to penetrate & seal the wood I have done this before with execelent results
Post some pic of your build will be interested in seeing them
Gary
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G'day all been having a play with Adelaide today trying out another steam engine for fit, its out of one of my other boats smaller than the one I was originally going to fit i will have to make a new boiler 3" dia. instead of 4" to get it to fit ,I am thinking along the lines of making the engine plant removable in one piece so I can change it over to either steam or electric
here is some pic of the trial
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Progress on the wheelhouse I was able to get hold of some original Queensland maple out of an old book stand
which would have ended up at the tip it is far better timber than the imported Muranti not sure weather that is the correct spelling ,getting good timber is a problem ,As far as the wall panelling goes the bevel that I machined was a little to large & doesn't look wright I am hoping once it is painted it wont be as noticeable
Gary
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Excellent and precise built!
greetings from the Swabian Alb
Thomas
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Not a lot progress today wheelhouse doors fitted started on roof
Gary