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Paddler Modelling => Construction => Topic started by: DamienG on September 04, 2013, 10:35:18 PM

Title: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 04, 2013, 10:35:18 PM
Built from Model boats plan Wrigley 121 paddle tug by Glynn Guest.
turned in to a lake passenger ferry.

These pic's are gone forever  :sobbing :sobbing :sobbing
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: PeeWee on September 05, 2013, 12:52:49 AM
now that looks a great take on the plans   :bravo  :beer
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Tug--Kenny on September 05, 2013, 05:02:06 AM

That's lovely.  :beer


Ken
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 05, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
Anyone interested in the build.
Can view it at http://www.thercmodelboatforum.com/t595p100-wrigley-121 (http://www.thercmodelboatforum.com/t595p100-wrigley-121)
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 05, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Ian & Ken thanks for the comments.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on April 04, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Radio added Transport case made looks like ballasting this week.

Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on July 14, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
This Lady was much easier to ballast.
You can see how much lead was required

I thought being 12v hair dryer motors with pulley drive the paddles looked a tad slow so I bought some 10 cell battery boxes hahaha I think 5 cells will do as reverse completely flooded the engine bay and all ahead full she reacted like a fast electric.
I'll also try to make paddle shrouds to thwart at least some of the water as reverse is needed for steering.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on July 15, 2014, 05:01:44 AM
Hi Damien
This is a beauty! I like her from the first view :D
But You are right, 10 Cells will make her a racing boat! But one question: Will you build a smoke-generator in the ship??
Regards
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on July 15, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
Thanks Gerhard, would be hard to fit Smoke generator as I have the Rx antenna in the funnel to keep it above the waterline
and the bow lead ballast was placed through a 20mm hole and can't be removed.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on July 15, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
As a weigh saving measure I decided to try just 5 cells for each motor but it seems you can't buy 5 cell battery boxes so I chose appropriate sized Dowel cut just a little shorter than a battery and drilled a 2mm hole down the middle & used 1mm copper wire through the hole formed and filled with solder as seen in the pic.



I recently accidentally bought 20 1800ma AAA cells instead of AA cells so as a weight saving measure I'll use them for Rx batteries.

Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 22, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
Ever have one of those moments you get so wrapped up in what you're doing you have an OOOOOOOOOOOOH darn moment.
Just did finally got the controller for my lathe motor finished walked over to install it, sat down in my chair that had moved I landed on this model and from a cursory glance destroyed it or will need many months to repair/rebuild.


I'll get some pic's tomorrow when I've calmed down.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 22, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
Been out to have a look shes in a sorry state superstructure badly damaged hull has a ding in it the passengers and the seats are no longer attached and 50% of the hand rails are crushed.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on August 23, 2014, 03:42:52 AM
Oh SH:::::
I cannot even imagine that, what a mess!!
Feelin`with you
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: the bombus on August 23, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
SH*T   SH*T   SH*T
Sorry to hear that Damien, I would feel sick ( really sick ) when something like that happend to me
I feel for your loss ( looking at the list of damages i think it is )
But .............. keep on building
Greetings from The Bombus
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 23, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
Thanks Gerhard and the bombus a 2 finger rum & coke settled me down I must have bruised my butt as I could't lie in bed in any position without pain at 1-30am I took some heavy pain killers and watched a tv show for an hour while they kicked in and tried bed again crashed some time after 3-30am  managed 5hrs sleep


It's not a total right off the hull at bow has been compromised and it's a multi piece jigsaw.

The hull deck and bottom are clad with 2mm printers card it appears from this next pic that polyester resin does not penetrate the surface and has separated leaving bare spots.

Not sure how I'll tackle the deck at the bow with railings attached is bent down and the stiffness integrity of the card is now compromised perhaps removing the paint and saturating the affected area with super glue will stiffen it up again.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: derekwarner_decoy on August 23, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
A bit of minor storm damage there Damien  :crash.......we will be watching as you make the repairs

In real life...all ships need a bit of time in dock for a refit  :ranting

Just press on......the vessel & you will be fine   :beer ..... Derek
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: the bombus on August 23, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
iceberg !!! they always said ! now i know what hit the Titanic  :)
One thing is clear , the Damiendock will fix it ,i'm sure of it .
keep the spirit pal.
greetings from The Bombus
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 24, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
Thanks everyone have a bruised Bum my pride hurts more though. I've finished my lathe motor conversion rest of day for clean up will start the repairs monday or tuesday.
Stay tuned for more   ;)
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on August 24, 2014, 05:54:19 PM
I WILL!
And i think, it will all be repaired well, as I believe you can do it!
Greetings
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 25, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
The stanchions and railings are now straight all other damage treated to liberal amounts of super glue.
Not sure how to tackle the broke 1/4sq on the hull bottom rise at the bow it's been pushed in about 10mm I can't get at it from inside the hull I'm so thinking of a small screw eye into the 1/4 sq and trying to pull it out.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on August 27, 2014, 01:26:03 AM
Hi Damien
You could try to make yourself a tool like shown in the link http://www.dellenwerkzeug24.de/zebay/hebel/spitzen.jpg this is made for smart repairs on cars, why should this not work on model ships!
Regards Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 27, 2014, 10:09:24 AM
I tried tried the screw eye into the cracked 1/4sq with cord threw the eye I held the boat while my wife pulled on the cord, this is as far as the dent would pull out.

So I changed tack and removed the the broken strip wood and rough sanded the area ready to receive bog filler.

Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 27, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Filler applied and sanded ready for primer I think I'll have to mix new deep red for below the waterline as it was hand mixed I still have the grey above waterline paint and the railings are an off the shelf colour.

I used artists sketch pad paper wrapped around a berocca can as I did the original and cut balsa inserts to strengthen the tube.

It won't take as long as I first thought to make her ship shape.    :) :)
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on August 27, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
Hi Damien

Looks good, well repair! A little bit of paint, and there is a perfect hull again.
Greetings Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on August 28, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
Thanks Gerhard.

Rings added to the funnel 4mm strips of sketch paper attached with doll house wallpaper glue looked like really thinned PVA.

Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 02, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
This repair was much easier than I imagined during the stress of the fall that caused the damage.
The hull has repaired with a few minor imperfections.

The twisted wire rails are the best I can get them the touch up paint was close but not quite the same colour but what touch ups on any machinery is perfect?
 
The new funnel held in place with lead buttons while the epoxy dries.

 All that remains is to refit the paddles and the radio gear.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Harold H. Duncan on September 02, 2014, 05:32:33 PM
very nicely done that man. :)
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 02, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Thanks It a great relief to have it looking good again.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: the bombus on September 03, 2014, 07:16:01 AM
those are pictures from before the accident Damien  ;D
like i said the Damiendock will fix it
nicely done job
gr from The Bombus
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 03, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
Thanks mate In feel a lot better now it's back together.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Mike on September 03, 2014, 04:20:51 PM


 Hi Damien.

 Its looking very good again, well done.

   Prentice.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on September 03, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
Thanks Prentice  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on November 09, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
Finally finished the lathe and workshop up-grade as well as 2 airboats finally finished and skimming the water well.

So I was free to get stuck into  the Lady of the Lake and wired 2 x 5  AA flat battery trays to replace the original 10 cell packs and cut about 3/8" from the 2mm drive belts and re-heat weld them.
Paddle speed is a lot closer to the correct speed all done bar the ballasting which I'll do after I wire the new battery boxes for the Sea Road Lady I'll ballast them both together.

Damien.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on November 09, 2014, 11:16:04 PM
Hi Damioen
Good to hear that she will be sailing again! :bravo
Hope for some pics!
Regards
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on November 15, 2014, 07:25:45 PM
Time to ballast found her way to stern heavy and as this previous pic shows quite a bit of lead needed to ballast her.

Now that I can see better using the test tank this amount of lead would have put her below the water line so the ESC's and batteries must move forward before adding lead.
One battery pack will lay flat in the bow the other laid on edge against the forward bulkhead and the ESC's just far enough forward to allow the removal of battery packs for charging progress pic's shortly.

To reduce the weight of the stern I purchased on ebay some 4mm brass tube to replace the 4mm silver steel motor mount runners and the paddles spindle.

It'll take 3 weeks from Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Tug--Kenny on November 17, 2014, 01:57:44 AM


Is that King Kong's brother ?  8)

Seriously though, it's looking good Damien.  Quite a balancing act you've got on your hands.  It looks fun relocating things to level her out, but it's the way to go.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on November 18, 2014, 12:44:41 AM
The Lady is taking a bath, very nice!
To be serius, well done, good work! :bravo
Regards
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on November 18, 2014, 10:58:29 AM
 :c017  for the encouragement fellas.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 07, 2014, 08:36:38 PM
The brass tube has arrived motor slides replaced as is the the paddle spindle shaft, it looks good and cut the weight considerably I'm also considering  taking drill and dremel to the paddles to further reduce stern weight.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: the bombus on December 08, 2014, 12:54:41 AM
mentioning drill and dremmel , could that maybe be the answer to the to heavy peugeot's on the ferry ??
i think dat taking the bottom out of them would reduce the weight considerably
gr from The Bombus
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 08, 2014, 01:59:24 PM


Most of the cars have plastic bottoms so not much weight saving to be gained I might remove the ones under the bridge deck as they aren't readily seen and shuffle the cars around on the deck keeping the lightest ones forward.

The rest I'll sell to Renault car club members to retrieve some of $300+ /i spent buying them on ebay.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: NoNuFink on December 09, 2014, 01:19:03 AM

and shuffle the cars around on the deck keeping the lightest ones forward.


Er... Presumably you meant the heaviest ones forward?  - or more likely the lightest ones back?

NNF
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Brian Gates on December 09, 2014, 05:26:13 AM
Unless with the cars under the bridge deck removed, the vessel would be bow-heavy?

Brian
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 09, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Sorry I was not clear enough.
I'll not have any under the bridge deck as she's top heavy i'll only use the the light weight ones I'll have to leave 5 of the 10 cars off the model.
A lesson learned  be aware of weight distribution when converting a conventional ship to paddle drive.
 
Any further discussion on Sea Road Lady can be made on her build blog please.

Damien.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 29, 2014, 09:43:39 AM
Back to Lady of the Lake more repairs needed after my adorable 2 1/2yo grandson thought it'd be good to play with and tried to drag it of the shelf with the hand rails.
I can live with it hadn't seen them for 2yrs it was a fabulous 5 days.
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: Gerhardvienna on December 29, 2014, 10:36:13 PM
That`s what happens, when kids are playing ;D
Smaller damages must be planned in, for such a reason!
The best to you & family
Gerhard
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 29, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
Thanks mate  :sunglasses
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: greateastern on December 30, 2014, 12:59:05 PM
Damien, here's hoping that 2015 will be kinder all the way around. Have a great new year.
dave
Title: Re: Lady of the lake.
Post by: DamienG on December 30, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
Same to you Dave. Lesson learned nothing is now stored on the workshop floor the spare bandsaw was collected by my son a few days ago and storage boxes now stored under the bench.