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General => Chat & Off Topic Stuff => Topic started by: LARRY W on November 03, 2011, 04:06:47 AM
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HI LARRY W HERE
pick up old model boats magazine today with a plan of Zulu river boat .
is this plan out there some ware ?., would like to have crack at it ........LARRY...
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HI Larry,
Glad you have found something that sparked some enthusiasm for building a paddler.
Are you saying the plan is missing form your magazine? If so i'm sure a search of the Model Boats Magazine plans section will get you the info you need.
It's difficult making any recomendation on what paddler to build as it depends on your skill level , what you find attractive and what you expect from the boat .....
I'm sure once you have the first paddler behind you, you will develop a taste for them .... and remember to share the knoweledge.
Regards,
Kim
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Hello again,
I have searched the model boats magazine website for the Zulu plan - hope i'm getting it right for you -
Zulu Plan MM1329
http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/16789/zulu-plan-mm1329
Might be worth a message to Barry or Waverley models for suitable wheels ... or ... show off and build them yourself ...
Look forward to hearing more...
Regards,
Kim
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HI I AM BACK AGAIN,
had a look at plan at model boats , great plan BUT a great price, .. :o
i only have a model budget of £30 a month , pension don't go far.
so change of plans now picked up free copy plan of PT LULONG.A a bit more of build to suit my budget :)
but now looking a model boats 1994 copy of build can any body help ? or as
any body built this model . i have built a DAVID METCALF model of is HDML . so i no it will be well scripted.
so can you help.........LARRY
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The magazine article about the Lulonga build is in our downloads section Larry - You can grab it via the following link: http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=43
Regards
Eddy
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THANK YOU EDDY,
just tried to down load , but wont let me , say i had my limit of 2 , i dont no why its the first time today......LARRY... :(
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HI,
made up mind to build LULGONGA. have plan and write up,
started with the paddles i have deiced to scratch build , using the ones on plan,
as cost of commercial ones are above my bugget ... so i am glad of the info on this site :c017...LARRY...
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HI ,
only picture of first paddle , staring lay down hull soon , when i get abit more info.....larry
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Nice one Larry!!...can I commission you to do mine lol??!!
Cheers....Bernie
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HI BERNIE ,
THANK YOU FOR NICE REPLY, looks better now i spray it ,
half way through the other one , BUT run out of 6MM square .
so trip to the shop tomorrow , 6mls away . :( so will cut out templates for hull ,
and deck house, will post some pics, when i resize them , cheers LARRY .
can a moderator change heading ..... thank you ...
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HI
a sprayed paddle dont look to bad
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HI , a CLOSE UP
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They look absolutely brilliant!!!! Great Work.
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Hi Larry,
Some pictures of my Lulonga are at
http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=gallery;sa=myimages;u=1537
I bought mine as a completed model but at present am rebuilding it, she was much too low in the water, as the photographs show. So trying to cut down the weight by changing the motors and battery. she is now nearly 10mm higher in the water. Also the paddles on mine are the Graupner ones used on the Glasgow, the feathering type.
I will watch with interest your build log.
Regards and good luck with your build Graham (jelley_baby)
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HI GRAHAM,
thank you for interest, your LUNONGA looks great ,
paddle wheels , are to dear for me to buy , so will have to see what mine
will perform , had a eary xmas present , my lad as bought me a hull , in plastic from a modeler,
a bit rough but usable ........what is your moter / paddle / and rc set up ?,......CHEERS LARRY......
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Hi Larry,
She was running on Como Drill 919D motors with a 50:1 reduction and from them a 2:1 chain drive using Meccano sprockets and chain, and running on 12 Volts the paddle rotation was about 100rpm but the weight of two motors (she steered with independent motor control) no rudder, and will turn in her own length, which is a spectacle. I have fitted 2 Como drill 280's which do not have the same power but seem OK I will know more when she sails after refit.
Mine is built on an injection moulded hull and in some ways that is better as long as you make very good seal between it and the deck.
Regards Graham
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THANK YOU FOR INFO......LARRY....
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Hi PD's :whistle........you have made a grand start here Larry...in such a short time ...carry on....& keep posting the :kewlpics ......
You can now see there is an alternate to life [here] other than on MAYHEM .......Derek :beer
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HI ALL,
moving on a bit more, hull and paddles , can body help with drive chain ,
ALSO LOOKING FOR MAGAZINES WITH WRITE BUILD WRITE UPS ? still looking ..... LARRY...
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Hi Larry
I have just bought some chain and sprockets from this eBay supplier who I have used before:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160676278763?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I have been fitting them in today.
His prices seem very reasonable and the delivery/service is instantaneous. I thoroughly recommend him.
You're making some very impressive progress and I look forward to more of the same!!!
Cheers.......Bernie
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THANK YOU ,
had a look at web page , of chain and gears , will come back to it when i get motors, LARRY..
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HI ALL,
worked on deck house and deck planking using Ikea blind slats.
a Favorite build material of mine note sheet planking pieces butted and glued together and sanded . .......LARRY...
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Nice work Larry and quick!!!
Cheers.........Bernie
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HI BERNIE,
thanks its better than the telly :beer you seem to be the only one interested ,.
am i using the wrong soap ;) Larry....
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thanks its better than the telly :beer you seem to be the only one interested ,.
am i using the wrong soap ;) Larry....
Larry,
I'm with you on the Telly front!
Please don't take lack of reply as a sign of lack of interest ... Personally i'm amazed at the speed your going. I'm sure if there were better ways or you were going the wrong way about things you might have heard.
So, well done & keep going we have our eyes on you!
Regards,
Kim
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Hi Larry,
Have notification of your posts sent to my email, so am watching with interest. At the moment am building up a kit that I have had for nearly five years and work on when I feel in the mood, its a billing Banckert, not a paddler, at the moment build the superstructure on trying to ballest it in the bath, with lead shot.
You are progressing well with your build keep going, and perhaps I will get restared on my rebuild, the last thing I did was to replace the railings all round the decks, very time consuming.
regards Graham
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HI BERNIE,
thanks its better than the telly :beer you seem to be the only one interested ,.
am i using the wrong soap ;) Larry....
Hi Larry,
Your doing great and I am following, just don't want to clutter up the thread.
Regards,
Gerald.
PS I just wish there was a "like" or "Interesting" button on posts so we could let the poster know we are out here.
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Hi Larry,
Had a thought last night, while setting up my Banckert, most of the ballast you will need in the Lulonga will be made up by your battery, motors and radio gear, at least it is in mine, but be careful not to float her too near to the lower loading deck as water can very easily run over it when other boats are passing, that was my problem. Under the lower side decks I have filled the cavity with Polyurethane but you could use polystyrene blocks as a safety feature. As I said earlier I steer with in-dependant motors and no rudder, worth working on while you are building.
Will continue to watch your build. Graham
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HI BERNIE,
thanks its better than the telly :beer you seem to be the only one interested ,.
am i using the wrong soap ;) Larry....
I'm following this build too (as I do all of them) seems to be coming along well, it'l be interesting to see how the finished boat sails ;D
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HI ALL ,
Thank you for interest , you are all a big help :c017 .
more done on deck houses , GRAHAM , will be going paddle steering so will be seeking help,
also motor drive , paddle wheelers are a black art to me , :c002 thank you.
MORE PICTURES SOON .... Larry.....
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Hi PD's.....I think this LARRY is a cupboard poser :shhh
The quality of his inlaid vertical planking :hammer in the deck housing gives it away...... :kewlpics of good work.......
Carry on Larry :beer ...we will just sit and admire......... :beer ......Derek
I just wish someone would would show him where the CAPS LOCK button was on the keyboard......... :tongue1
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HI DEREK
WHAT,S A CUPBOARD POSER ?...SOUNDS LIKE A INSULT,
NOTE MESSAGE ALL IN CAPITALS :tongue1 :c017 .........LARRY.....
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oh dear PD's......."SOUNDS LIKE A INSULT" :nono ...Larry...lets consider another scenario :whistle
a mature age fellow modeler joins & says he is new to the game...... :hammer ....then presents with building skills [The quality of his inlaid vertical planking in the deck housing gives it away] that are clearly the result years of practice.....thats all....nothing more :c002 ....nothing less :beer......Derek
the following image will help you find the CAPS lock button on your keyboard :tongue1.......
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HI DEREK,
Thank you for comments, and tutorial on key board ,
my modelling is 18 months total after retirement from construction industry ,
I have cabinet making back ground plus joinery and carpentry ,....
also schooling was a art school , ...
may be that's what is. showing through . :gathering ........LARRY.... :)
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Hi Larry
So really......you're a 'cabinet poser'!! NO INSULT INTENDED....JUST JOKING!
With that life experience I am also not surprised at your proficiency in this new area of skill deployment!
Your model is coming along great and I always scan your posts.
Cheers.........Bernie
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Hi Larry,
Your woodworking skills are showing through again. You've been rumbled.
I too, am watching with interest as you're doing a great job. Keep the questions coming as we'd all like to feel part of your build. :bravo
ken
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HELLO LADS,
A bit more progress a bit of deck works and stern area ,
pictures to show works........LARRY.....
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THANK YOU KENNY ,
Makes a change from tugs...........LARRY......
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She looks like she will take the weight OK. Nice hull shape. Have you tried the float test yet ? This might build your confidence on what can be added safely.
Ken
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HI KENNY,
Not yet ken waiting for drive bits dont no what to use,/
looking for ideas, from forum , want to run on 12vlt and twin steering control,
but still lots to do . ........LARRY... :thinking
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Hi Larry,
Would these photo's be of any help in you build.
Graham
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Hi Again Larry,
The drive chain and sprockets used are now Meccano ones with a 2: 1 reduction. There is plenty of chain and Sprockets available on Ebay.
Regards Graham
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HI GRAHAM,
Thank you for help , that,s the set up i wasthinking of useing is it posible to give me a break down of
what you have used ie motors ,...controlers , chains and cogs and suppleirs ,......
hope you can help, .........LARRY...... :c017
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Hi Larry,
The sprockets are meccano No 95 and No 96 these are 2 inch and 1 inch, but there are also No 95a and No 96a options which are 1.5 inch and 0.75 inch only these are harder to find, Ebay has plenty of the first two but not so man of the second pair.
The motors are Como Drill 919D with a 50:1 gearbox, a lighter version is the 918d but ratio's on the gearbox is is not as good. Search the web for Como Drill and you will find there site and all there information in PDF format which you can take down and print, the web page is:-
http://mfacomodrills.com/gearboxes/gearboxes.html
The speed controllers are Action 20Amp ones but any good controller will work.
Hope this helps Graham
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THANK YOU GRAHAM,
Thats a great help , but will have source meccano other than e bay
dont use e bay any more got stung on a credit deal so dont trust it any more, >:(
thanks again.......LARRY....
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Larry, you can still purchase ladder chain and sprokets from MFA but don't try and use it with meccano sprockets get the appropriate sprockets.
Regards,
Kim
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Hi Larry,
I don't like doing this but nobody else is offering the information ... so here goes ...
I sell 300rpm planetary geared motors which are quiet and low drain ... send me an email if your interested.
If you already know this and have chosen not to come to me then please accept my apologise.
Regards,
Kim
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Hi PD's........Larry....I have no financial interest here :nono....but do suggest you consider..... :whistle
1. planetary geared motors have excellent torque output
2. they are certainly very quiet
3. also importantly....due to the design are low current consumption :weight
So a 300 RPM output speed & a 2:1 chain reduction would bring you to near optimal max paddle shaft speed [150 RPM]
We all understand $ are tight these days :sorry ...but if you could invest in a modestly rated electronic speed controller....you would be set :08
This would see your Lulonga accelerate from rest in a majastic style to full RPM :hammer if necessary to compensate for tide or windage ........
Derek :beer
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HI KIM,
Thank you for reply and help ,
tried web page , but missing plug in so can not view products shame :darn because looks good.
I have trouble with other sites who have plug in missing , so must be me.........
I have posted my e mail address on your site . .........CHEERS LARRY....
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HI A,BIT MORE DONE.
A bit of paint work started , plus a touch of weathering.
is there a picture of full size boat any where ? had a look on Google came up with nothing. :blank:
thank you LARRY...
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is there a picture of full size boat any where ? had a look on Google came up with nothing. :blank:
thank you LARRY...
The Lulonga is a fictional boat Larry, designed by Dave Metcalf as a "generic" type of vessel that may have been used in Africa....
Your model is looking good so far, and since there isn't a full sized prototype you have the option of adding whatever detail you think looks right....
Regards
Eddy
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THANK YOU EDDY
No wonder i could not find it on the web,
Dave Metcalf as great modelling brain , I BUILT HIS HDML.
ANOTHER GREAT BUILD cheers LARRY...
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Hi There,
just read all the way through, your doing a great job on the wood work. if only... :towel
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HI ALL,
Bit stuck at the moment , so carrying on with paint job,
put a search out for some paddles , mine seem a little heavy , also more drive info .
thank you for help so far .......LARRY...
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HELLO ,
Back again build on going with paint work,
a bit more scratch building deck bits , still getting paddlers at the right price ,
or stiill stuck on drive chain , my fualt no credit card , as i have said befor had id stolen,
so dont use mail posting on line..........LARRY...
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HELLO ,
Back again build on going with paint work,
a bit more scratch building deck bits , still getting paddlers at the right price ,
or stiill stuck on drive chain , my fualt no credit card , as i have said befor had id stolen,
so dont use mail posting on line..........LARRY...
Hi Larry,
i have noted your requests for help here & on Mayhem. I don't mind helping but when i have to chase posts to find out whats new or what you need help with then i do start to loose interest a little.
I can understand your reasoning on credit cards online ...
But when you ask for info ... get info (direct Link) to Barry's wheels ... which would have been ideal! ..... don't respond ... ask on other forums (get same info! ... Barry's wheels) ..... then blame credit cards ... well my inclination to help ebb's.
I know that is really negative but please treat us with a little respect! ...
(My thoughts only and not the thoughts of the forum)
Regards,
Kim
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HI TALISMAN ,
sorry i have upset you, so i best leave paddle ducks thank you all for help .......LARRY...
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Hi Larry,
I think that it would be a great shame if you decide to leave paddleducks, I have watch your build with interest and look forward to its completion, you are not far for me and as I have a lulonga it might be possible to see the Two together in the future.
I would certainly be sad to see no more build articles.
Keep up the good work, and keep posting
Regards Graham
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Hi Larry,
If you do decide not to post any more info keep in touch gcjelley@googlemail.com
Merry Xmas Graham
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thank you graham,
I am sorry to leave PADDLE DUCKS and thank you for your intrest.
i came to forum help and and advice which i took on board,
i made comment on id theft on line shopping which i do not trust,
if any body as gone through what i went through it was a very bad experience and i would not
put any body through it , it made my wife very ill , but its over now thank goodness,
so don't need any patronising comments,.
so a happy new year and enjoy your build and sail.................LARRY.. :(
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Hi Larry,
As Kim stated, they where his thoughts only, not those of Paddleducks.
Why leave over the comments of one member. That's 0.08% of members, Look at things from the positive side, don't go "tossing the towel" and continue posting your build on here.
You are a prolific builder, of a very diverse range of boats, and I for one follow all your builds both here and other forums.
I do understand your concerns with remote buying and the associated risk of identity theft, but there are other ways around the problem, and most of the regular "traders" in the hobby are honest and reliable
Keep up the good work
cheers
kiwi
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Larry,
Please don't think i'm trying to chase you from the forum & paddlers in general.
I just don't like having my time wasted.
Regards,
Kim
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I AM NOT A TIME WASTER , BUT JUST A PENSIONER ON A BUGGET AND NEW COMER TO THE HOBBEY.
SO IF THIS THE WAY YOU TREAT YOUR CUSTOMERS EVERY BODY WHO ASKS A QUESTION IS A TIME WASTER
SO PLEASE MISTER MODERATOR . REMOVE MY NAME AND POSTS OF THIS WEB PAGE .
THANK YOU FOR HELP AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE SITE .........LARRY...
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Hi Pd's...& goodness Larry .. I thought that you had understood my humble comments re UPPER case & lower case
As an original PD member from 12 years back.......& from 20,000 km away in OZ...... :vacation ...I have never considered your postings out of place :coffee ......Derek
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hello derek ,
thank you for reply , that was my final rant , :ranting and now not respoding to any more rude comments
so a merry christmas to you and your famliy and happy boating year .........LARRY... :c017
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SO PLEASE MISTER MODERATOR . REMOVE MY NAME AND POSTS OF THIS WEB PAGE .
LARRY...
Larry, it appears the moderators are sleeping ... so what you say we put the past behind us and lets see a paddler come to life on this forum ?
Speak soon
Kim
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THANK YOU FOR REPLY ,
May i take that as apology, please never call me a time waster ,
as a trader you must get all sorts of peaple asking all sorts of questions we arnt all experts in the feild of modeling,
remmber your customers are your living ,
happy new year LARRY..
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THANK YOU FOR REPLY ,
May i take that as apology, LARRY..
You can Larry and i hope that is an end to it .... but could you please squirt some dwd40 on your caps button ;D
look forward to reading more.
Regards,
Kim
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:squareone :beer
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Kim...you have obviously used the aforesaid compound on your wind-up key!!
Merry Xmas all!!!!!!
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Kim...you have obviously used the aforesaid compound on your wind-up key!!
Merry Xmas all!!!!!!
To much of the stuff i guess! It seems to have knackered the sense of humour button ... but it was allways a little temperamental lol
Regards,
Kim
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:tongue1 ...dwd40 .....mmmmm :hehe ...I think I will apply for a Patent for this "aforesaid compound"
But it will only be available in hand held pump packs as aerosol dispensers haven't been invented in OZ yet :a102
Merry Christmas to you all ...Derek