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Paddler Information => Research => Topic started by: PeeWee on January 10, 2011, 07:27:35 PM
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Hi All,
since the people are playing silly with the Seaandbea plans i have decided to look at the possibility of building an Eagle. the current 2 i am looking at are the PS Crested Eagle and Golden Eagle.
My question is does anyone know the whereabouts of any plans for these 2. another option would be the Royal Eagle if plans for the first 2 are unobtainable.
all the best
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Hi Ian,
I'm not sure about the other boats but the PS Golden Eagle was built by John Browns.
John Brown Plans that are available are held at the Glasgow University Archives.
My experience of GUA service was they are not the quickest to deal with and their plans are not the cheapest (but better than the NMM.)
Archive Services (Searchroom)
13 Thurso Street
University of Glasgow
G11 6PE
Tel: 0141 330 5515
Fax: 0141 330 2640
www.gla.ac.uk/archives/
If i can help anymore just get in touch
Regards,
Kim
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There is a chapter and a few drawings (but no lines) of various "Eagles" in Hambleton's "Famous Paddle Steamers"
Rick
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I have that book and have been looking at these boats lately....
...there are waterline drawings of the 'first' eagle and the '1856' eagle but no plans, the drawings show very little detail and are most likely from paintings of the ships...
...then there are waterline drawings (but from an angle as if seen approaching you) of 1898 eagle and golden eagle (1909)...
...then full hull side view of eagle (1898) plus half deck plan, and waterline side view and half deck plan of crested eagle. these are quite small, about 6 or 7 inches long - but I could probably use them - have to guess (or simplify) the actual hull shapes though...
...finally, there's a complete side view and half deck plan of royal eagle - but over two pages, about 11 inches long...
From the text;
1898 eagle was built by Gourlay brothers, launched at Dundee and was 265ft long and 30 ft beam (doesn't say if 265ft LOA or LBP!)
1909 Golden Eagle was built by John Brown & co of clydebank, was 275ft long 31ft beam.
1925 Crested Eagle, built by Whites of cowes, 300ft long, 34.5 ft beam (that'd be a BIG model!)
and 1932 Royal Eagle, built by Cammell-Lairds, 290 ft long, 36.5ft beam.
Only paddler in the book with hull sections showing the shape (plus many other details) is La Marguerite - but at 330ft LBP (actually says that so assume the others are LOA) and 40ft beam - must be almost twice the length of my Princess Elizabeth - but what a model that would be, and just imagine it in 1/32 scale!!!
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Hi Mick,
I had a quick troll at the Mitchel Library for Cobra plans for Stuart. Only Drawing i could find was for the paddle Wheel Vent decoration.
I did find a drawing of St Tudno not dissimilar to Cobra or the La Marguerite.
I haven't had a look at the La Marguerite but I'm sure she is equally as impressive .... @ 1:32nd scale ... I like your style :)
Perhaps you could take passengers ... that would help with the build costs :)
Regards,
Kim
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thank you for the replies, i wonder where Whites drawing ended up. lets hope they went somewhere.
maybe a call to a couple of museums will shed some light
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I think the PSPS have a lot of archive material....may be worth a enquiry
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Done some digging today, the national archives show that all maritime plans of Whites are in the National Maritime Museum's Caird Library. however i have also put a call into the museum in Cowes on the off chance that they have a copy of the crested eagle. they will let me know on Monday, if they dont then its to the NMM and £££ will need to be saved if they do indeed ave copies.
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well a very nice lady called me from the IOW maritime museum had her computer shows a number of plans and photographs of the Eagle. fingers crossed that they will be a good starting point for the research.
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Mick, check with the PSPS archives at chatham first as I know they have a large collection of plans there and they supply them at copying cost plus postage. Regards, Walter
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Hobbies of Dereham published a weekly craft magazine for 105 years!! and in one of their publications (I think an annual about 1938/40 they published a plan for a static waterline model of GOLDEN EAGLE. They sent me a copy about four years ago but I cant find it! Regards, Walter