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Paddler Information => Preserved Paddle Ships => Topic started by: marinemole on May 15, 2010, 09:58:22 PM
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On my way over to Murdieston Dam, home of the Greenock model boat club, with some friends last Tuesday evening when I spotted the funnels of the Waverly. Naturally a detour was in order and cameras were out. She is still being painted in preparation for the 2010 season but is looking magnificent. I did notice that the upper hull is painted an off white, (cream?), colour when my memory of previous seasons was white? Whatever the state of my ageing and unreliable memory the colour looked just right.
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Hi
Yes the upper hull is a cream/off white shade, has been since her rebuild, when she was repainted in the original LNER colour scheme (or as close as possible).
That area was white before 2000.
Clark
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I liked her white peronally! :o :o :o
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Took loads of close up shots but light was poor and exposure management poor in some shots. Now wish I had had the brass neck to ask to get on board to take more. Hopefully some may be of interest to the multitude of Waverly builders out there in PD land.
Have loaded to Photobucket. Available at:-
http://s669.photobucket.com/albums/vv59/carmanmole/PS%20Waverly/ (http://s669.photobucket.com/albums/vv59/carmanmole/PS%20Waverly/)
Some index shots to give an indication of what's there.
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I'd like to see her with buff funnels-that would upset a few people :P :whistle
Her first sailing is next Friday I think to Oban?
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I'd like to see her with buff funnels-that would upset a few people :P :whistle
Hi Jack, me too, even just for a short while....do they not use various liveries on some of the preserved steam locos?
I suppose it is a marketing brand now though, people see red/white/black & think Waverley
regards
Clark
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I'd like to see her with buff funnels-that would upset a few people :P :whistle
Hi Jack, me too, even just for a short while....do they not use various liveries on some of the preserved steam locos?
I suppose it is a marketing brand now though, people see red/white/black & think Waverley
regards
Clark
Yes, they do use various liveries on locos. Unlike paddlers they are easier to repaint and have to be repainted more often, and being cheaper to repaint they are easy to change, especially if there are loads of preserved examples. However, some locos which are the only one of their type preserved normally stay in the same livery to suit the punters; but they once did City of Truro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_3700_Class_3440_City_of_Truro) in a nice BR Black in the 80s-only half of her though, for photographs-all the enthusiasts went mad! The same thing would probably happen with Wav, and as you say, her Red, White and Black funnels are charachteristic now and an advertising point.
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I have a suspicion that as part of getting the lottery money there are fairly strict requirements on maintaining the original colour scheme.
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Although I would like to see the buff funnels too, it just wouldnt be Waverley! For as long as I remember that pair of gleaming red funnels are a sight to behold!
Keep them red, and hurry her down to the South Coast, as I am in need of a Waverley fix!
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Waverley at Penarth yesterday evening. I understand a certain Paddleducks member to be on shop duty.
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Hi PD's........which way does the wind blow @ Penarth? :picknose
I see the FWD air intakes s facing AFT........some of the mid ships air intakes facing FWD & AFT & the AFT air intakes facing Port & Stdb :squareone
Anyway great snaps Channel :clap....is that telephoto work?..... Derek :beer
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I heard she was coming to Newport. She's looking good in her livery.
Have you the time tables please.
Derek, the wind blows all over the place down yer. 8)
Ken
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Fantastic pictures Channel........she really is looking good. We don't mind showing off all good things Scottish but can we have her back home soon on the Clyde please.
Andy
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Fantastic pictures Channel........she really is looking good. We don't mind showing off all good things Scottish but can we have her back home soon on the Clyde please.
Andy
You get her quite enough! We onbly get 10 sailings a year nowadays! We can send you the Balmoral up for the summer if you want? ;)
Kenny - she does make a few calls at newport. Already made one on 8th June. Next is Tuesday at 0930 for Combe returning at 2030. Get yourself up that gangway!
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I'll be there ;D
Ken
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Arriving at Penarth this evening.
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Very nice. Keep em coming
Andy
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Hi PD's.....& our Ken says .....I'll be there :whistle ...well that snap from 1/8 of Port stern view @ close to water level.......
Isn't that Ken [with his right hand on the hand rail] with the GREEN spray jacket just looking down on the stern 1/4 checking on the vent angles for me? :41
:sorry You must understand that by the time the electrons get to OZ they may be a little distorted for us to view ....... :gathering .....Derek
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Nice shots Chris. Can I use them for YPW?
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Looking forward to it even more now. I've cobbled some neighbours
to come with me in case I fall overboard.
I'm making a badge to go on my hat with the Paddleducks logo, so
please come over and say hello. :D
Ken
Derek, there will be more than a few pictures for you to see what I
look like. ::)
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mmmmmmmm PD's.....next time Waverley goes in for a refit...best get those blokes :gathering with their "ODD Lites" :crash [theodolitie thingies] to check the angularity & parallelism of the masts ...cause they are OUT of wack :a102 >>>>>> just look at a 1/4 stern view below :shoot
Yes...that's it ......the one with Ken [with his right hand on the hand rail] with the GREEN spray jacket
Me thinks they spend TOO much time on the :beer & laying back :vacation instead of working :hammer .....Derek
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mmmmmmmm PD's.....next time Waverley goes in for a refit...best get those blokes :gathering with their "ODD Lites" :crash [theodolitie thingies] to check the angularity & parallelism of the masts ...cause they are OUT of wack :a102 >>>>>> just look at a 1/4 stern view below :shoot
Err, they're not, and they are as they were originally.
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Hi PD's.....a quote from Jack......
"Err, they're not, and they are as they were originally"
Well PD's... :hehe' I would be the first to offer a few bob [$] to start a collection so Jack can make an appointment with "Spec Savers" :08
There are many ways of confirming that Waverley's masts are OOW [OZ for out of wack] :squareone ...I could provide a page & a half of mathematical formula.....however decided empirical evidence is better suited for this QEII long weekend here
So I have employed my trusty NSW RFS [rural fire service] plastic ruler [made in China] to clearly display the angularity & lack of parallelism in Waverly's masts
Now mind you :tongue1 ...I am looking at the image on my 27"BENQ monitor with super flat panel [HDMI + senseye+photo] image.... :sorry not sure what that means ...but let the image confirm the truth...
From this I rest my case......& suggest that they [the accused mast installers] should be flogged & tried @ ye Olde Bailey & when found guilty be deported ....but not to OZ....as we have too many :sunglasses here already........ Derek :beer
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Derek
the effect you are observing in the picture is due to 'barreling' on the camera lens. The masts ARE parallel. In the past professional photographers used a rising front and slew front camera to counter this effect which is most noticable in photos of buildings and structures wth many vertical and horizontal lines.
All the best
stuart
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Derek
the effect you are observing in the picture is due to 'barreling' on the camera lens. The masts ARE parallel. In the past professional photographers used a rising front and slew front camera to counter this effect which is most noticable in photos of buildings and structures wth many vertical and horizontal lines.
All the best
stuart
Quite correct Stuart, nowadays it can be corrected in photoshop but I rarely use it.
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OK PD's.... :ranting..... I am not convinced with all this clap trap :porkies & have requested the jury @ ye Olde Bailey to adjurn...pending my further instruction :tongue1
Is anyone suggesting that my trusty NSW RFS [rural fire service] plastic ruler [made in China] is not calibrated?
To me here in OZ....the truth is clear....the masts are OOW...no parrallex error :nono
In OZ the only "barrelling" error is when the contents of the said barrel :beer are consumed too quickly
I do not dispute that a photoshop PC software packege could distort the image & correct the OOW parallelism of the masts ,,,,,,,,, but at the expense of distortion of the hull lines ..... :hammer ...which naturally at deck level would appear without question.....
In OZ...things are either vertical or horizontal....& never built @ 2.47839' degrees off axis as are the masts on Waverley.....Derek
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Hi PDs
May as well stick my oar in here! I know nothing about any photographic effects, but as far as I can see, from photos (old & new),& plans, Waverley's mainmast is very slightly more "raked" than her foremast when viewed beam on. Just the way it looks to me, & i'm open to correction.
Last season, when viewed from dead ahead, the top of the mainmast was visible, when it should have been hidden behind the foremast, suggesting that one or both masts were not totally vertical when seen from that position...maybe some stays over tightened? Probably easy enough to fix, I haven't seen her this year, so it would be interesting if someone could get a pic from dead ahead (or very close to dead ahead) so we can see if this is the case. Failing that I will get one when she is on the Clyde. (great photos on this thread by the way).
That said, she is looking great this year, hope she has a busy season.
Clark
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Derek,
since WAVERLEYs masts were done in her Yarmouth refit, maybe it was ENGLANDs goal keeper who done them
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Hi All,
I found this pic from 2007.
Not sure if it answers the question but it be nice to know that the real things have errors ... :)
Regards,
Kim
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Hi PD's & thanks Talisman for that contributory image :shhh ...it is no big deal...but in OZ we call a spade a spade
I also tend to agree with djcf........ "maybe some stays over tightened?" ...as simple as that :beer ....Derek
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I'm off to check Monarch's now!! Bit of an admission of guilt, but our funnel isn't exactly straight :S
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Visited Helensburgh the other day and fascinated to see the Work Boat Ben Crom dredging around the pier. Apparently Waverly has had some problems berthing at Helensburgh :-
http://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2010/07/23/402788-low-tide-stops-waverley-visit/ (http://www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2010/07/23/402788-low-tide-stops-waverley-visit/)
Pictures not STRICTLY Waverly oriented but wouldn't this vessel make a cracking little model. Not entirely sure about the very low freeboard though.
Video when I get around to editing the footage. Grandchildren visiting and have much higher media profile.
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Anyone know the history of the Ben Crom - looks a bit like a cut down fleet tender?
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Some info here as to builder but haven't researched history other this:-
http://www.coastworks.co.uk/documents/20091291259180.Coastworks%20Ben%20Crom%20spec.pdf (http://www.coastworks.co.uk/documents/20091291259180.Coastworks%20Ben%20Crom%20spec.pdf)
Andy
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Hi all,
Waverley leaving linkspan berth at Dunoon this lunchtime.