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Paddler Information => Research => Topic started by: Talisman on December 28, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
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Destination Boards
Hi All,
At the risk of sounding a little Lazy - is there any chance you guys could help with a bit of info on the following boats and typical destination board info.
Unfortunately time is a little short here to be researching this subject.
I know that some of you can recite the info from memory and this would be a real help to me. Maybe of interest to others as well?
Many thanks,
Kim
Boats and season years dates
Mercury - 1934 - 35 seasons
Caledonia - 1934 seasons
Marchioness of Lorne - 1935 - 36 season
Jeanie Deans - 1945 - 65 seasons
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Hi Kim
Some Mercury routes 1934
Princes Pier - Gourock - Kirn - Dunoon - Wemyss Bay - Innellan - Craigmore - Rothesay & return
Wemyss Bay - Largs - Keppel - Millport
Rothesay - Wemyss Bay
I think Mercury & Caledonia both did Rothesay-Princes Pier & cruises to the Kyles as far as Auchenlochan
Clark
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Wow! - that's impressive!
Stuart
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Not Really Stuart,
I just happened to have a book lying about detailing some sailings for these two in 1934 when they were new :-X ;) !!!
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Some Marchioness of Lorne pre-war rosters
Kilmun - Ardnadam(for Sandbank) - Strone - Blairmore - Cove - Kilcreggan - Princes Pier - Gourock
Kilmun - Hunters quay - Kirn - Dunoon - Gourock
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Thanks for that Clark a great start.
I was rather looking forward to this little project but all my other little projects are taking up a lot more of my time than i expected.
Thanks again
P.s. i may have been a little vague in the dates for Jeanie deans perhaps if i narrow it down to the season her 45 / 46 it would be easier to answer.
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Hi PD's.........I too just happened to have an old text handy :whistle...& here is a .jpg of Mercury & a little text re her war time exploits.....Derek :beer
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Derek an interesting book you have there - unfortunately its the later Mercury I'm researching at the moment - although the older one maybe a project further down the line.
Another project at the moment might just send my wife over the edge. :hehe
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If it helps understand my reason for shortness of time and all the late nights -
Currently i have 3 Hull plugs in various states of assemby and another 2 in the pipeline and when I'm not sanding or freezing outside I'm frantically drawing various components on the computer... All this and a deadline of 4th January .... if i manage to get a spare min then i can allways fill it with getting the big Talisman started again...... and this is supposed to be a relaxing Hobie :)
Regards
Kim
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Kim, Articles re Mercury/Caledonia & MoL are in "Clyde Steamers " mags No 20 Autumn 1984 & no 16 Autumn 1980 respectively.
These go into a bit more detail...if you can't find copies let me know
Derek, the older Mercury is a fine looking paddler.....and Kim, surely One more project would be ok, after all, she wouldn't be too much longer than "Talisman" ;D :o
Clark
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Clark thanks for the Info - I will run your suggestion past my wife and see what she says - if i'm not on here over the next few days would someone be kind enought to send an ambulance round .... ;D
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If it helps understand my reason for shortness of time and all the late nights -
Currently i have 3 Hull plugs in various states of assemby and another 2 in the pipeline and when I'm not sanding or freezing outside I'm frantically drawing various components on the computer... All this and a deadline of 4th January .... if i manage to get a spare min then i can allways fill it with getting the big Talisman started again...... and this is supposed to be a relaxing Hobie :)
Regards
Kim
Wow - now that is being really busy :o
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Jeanie Deans - what livery are you doing her in?
LNER - 1945-1947
BR - initially with black dining saloon windows, later white
The Wheelhouse was installed in 1948
From 1948 she had calls at Gourock included, from 1953 the round Bute cruise was started.
I think 1945/6-1952 she did Craigendoran-Dunoon-Innellan-Rothesay, with afternoon salings extended to Tighnabruiach, possibly Kilcreggan and Kirn calls on some sailings. Craigmore had been closed after the war
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Just dug out my CSP timetables from 1950 onwards.
The Round Bute cruise had started by 1950, she sailed at 1210 for KIlcreggan, , Gourock, KIrn, Dunoon, Innellan, Rothesay and a cruise round Bute.
She would also have done the 0845 from Craigendoran direct to Dunoon and Rothesay, returning at 1015 and also calling at Innellan and Kilcreggan, connecting at Dunoon with Waverkey for Lochgoilhead and Arrochar
The round Bute cruise did not run on Saturdays or Sundays, on Saturdays she would have been a back up steamer on Gourock-Dunoon or Wemyss Bay-Rothesay
On Sundays she or Waverley did a variety of afternoon cruises to Glenan Bay (Loch Fyne), Tarbert (Loch Fyne), round Bute and Cumbrae, or to Skipness, all starting at 1235, with a call at Helenbsurgh when tide permitted, then Dunoon, Innellan and Rothesay
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Many thanks for taking the time to look out and post your info Alistair I really do appreciate it.
Regarding the Jeanie I haven't decided just yet on a year / period to builder her but appreciate the infor all the same.
Regards,
Kim
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Fitz, I'm nit picking here, but would it not have been Ardenadam before the war, and not Ardnadam. I seem to recall seeing that somewhere but can't think where! Sandy
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Hi Sandy,
Yes, you could be right, I have seen it spelt both ways, but it seems to be "Ardnadam" nowadays...I will see if I can find out when it changed.
Its a bit like "Row" changing to "Rhu" on the Gareloch - confusing but there must be a reason for it!!
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On "Society of Antiquaries of Scotland" documentation, dated 1908/9, the spelling is "Ardenadam".
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Here's a rare destination board from a steamer charter on WAVERLEY in 1970's and I was there!
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The railway companies always used the spelling Ardnadam, but my great-great-grandmother had a house in Sandbank, and when she later got a house built in Melrose for my great-grandparents, she called it Ardenbank, a combination of Ardenadam and Sandbank.
Going back to Jeanie Deans, in the early BR era when she had the black dining room windows, she had two gold lines along the hull just below the white of the superstructure.
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Hi that's great detail, when you say just below the superstructure do you mean gold bands high on the hull (on the White section ) or two gold bands on the black part of the hull?
On the attached pic you can just make out what i think is 2 gold bands on the upper part of the black section of hull is that what you mean?
Thanks
Kim
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Hi guys,
I'm sure the 2 gold lines changed to yellow at some point in the 50s before they were dropped from the livery. Can't remember where I read this but I put yellow lines on my Caledonia, see pic. Sorry not very good image but only one I could find!!
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The gold bands were on the black part of the hull. Waverley has had one or two gold lines in various years under preservation, in fact she still has two.