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Paddler Information => Research => Topic started by: Eddy Matthews on May 04, 2009, 09:05:02 AM

Title: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Eddy Matthews on May 04, 2009, 09:05:02 AM: I'm trying to find more photos of the Firth of Forth ferries Sir William Wallace or her sister ships - Queen Margaret, Robert the Bruce, and Mary Queen of Scots.

Specifically the steel stucture that supported the bridge.....

The drawings I have show the basics, but I know from the few photos I've seen that the drawings leave a lot to be desired and there were obvious additions made during building!

Can anyone help please?

Regards
Eddy
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Talisman on May 22, 2009, 03:34:59 AM: Hi, Eddy and All,

I came across these sites which I'm sure you have probably seen before but maybe of interest to others following your build thread.
Regards
Kim

http://www.megoran.fsworld.co.uk/Forth%20Ferries.htm

http://www.megoran.fsworld.co.uk/Sir%20William%20Wallace.htm
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Barry on June 15, 2009, 11:16:18 AM: I don't know if this photos any good for you.
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Eddy Matthews on June 15, 2009, 03:09:18 PM: That's very helpful Barry, thanks... I haven't seen that photo before. It must be one of the last ones taken as the Forth road bridge is in the background.

Regards
Eddy
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Barry on June 15, 2009, 05:26:44 PM: That photo is from the book Ferries and ferrymen by G. Bernard Wood. It doesn't give anymore information about her, not even the name. This photo's from Talisman by Alan Brown.
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Eddy Matthews on June 15, 2009, 05:42:17 PM: Thanks yet again Barry.... It's amazing how many differences there were between the different boats, even though at first glance they look the same - If you see what I mean? :hehe

Regards
Eddy
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Talisman on June 15, 2009, 07:38:06 PM: Barry's first picture is interesting.
3 balls up - I'm aground.
I know from another pic that at low tide they were aground but were they lazy and not take them down in operation or had this captain genuinely made a 'balls up'?
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Eddy Matthews on June 15, 2009, 07:52:21 PM: Quote from: Talisman on June 15, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
Barry's first picture is interesting.
3 balls up - I'm aground.
I know from another pic that at low tide they were aground but were they lazy and not take them down in operation or had this captain genuinely made a 'balls up'?

I was told that the three balls meant "vessel out of control" as they were badly affected by sidewinds and currents, so steerage was minimal. But having just checked it, your correct Kim, it means "Vessel aground".

It's only two black balls for "Vessel out of control", so there you go, something else that I've learned! :)

Eddy
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Talisman on June 15, 2009, 08:41:47 PM: Eddy i teach powerboating and sailing thats how i know.
i have poped a wee pic with day shapes below for info..
Title: Re: Sir William Wallace
Post by: Talisman on June 15, 2009, 08:49:41 PM: Knowing most of the I.R.P.C.S (international rules for prevention of collision at sea) does men i have to bite my tounge sometimes at the pond ;D