Paddleducks
General => Chat & Off Topic Stuff => Topic started by: Eddy Matthews on January 20, 2009, 07:03:15 AM
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As some of you will know, I love F1.... And the new 2009 cars are now being unveiled, for what should be one of the most exciting seasons for years!
Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, and Williams have all shown their new cars (photos below), and the new BMW-Sauber F1.09 will be unveiled tomorrow.
There have been sweeping changes to the rules for the coming season, with engines and gearboxes now having to last twice as long as previously, in-season testing is banned, KERS (Kinetic Energy recovery Systems), slick tyres, and massive changes to the rules for the cars aerodynamics.
All in all it bodes well for a superb season of racing with lots more potential for overtaking, and for the "little boys" to compete on a more level playing field.
Who will win the title this year? God knows, it's going to be one of the most wide open seasons for more than 15 years!
Eddy
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The new BMW-Sauber F1.09, unveiled at Valencia today...
Eddy
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Thank's Eddy,
for sharing these photos with us.
regards Hans
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Less than two weeks to the first race of the season - From the performance in the various test sessions I think it's anybodies guess who will win!
Personally I think it will be one of the most exciting and unpredictable years for a long time! let's hope the days of the "follow the leader" races are well and truely over! It was killing F1!!
I'm more than happy with most of the rule changes, my only gripe is that they haven't gone back to a manual gearbox...... It's supposed to be a "drivers" championship, so lets see the driver actually do something other than point the car in the right direction!!
Regards
Eddy
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Michael Schumacher may well be the best driver F1 has ever seen,but watching him always win did get a bit old.the last couple of seasons have been better,and this year maybe better still.
However,whether the new regs. will actually improve racing,and reduce costs is open to debate.
Stifling development doesn't really seem like the ideal way to achieve this goal.
I'm sure manufacturers will find ways to improve their cars as the season progresses.But I would hate to see every other car drop out through mechanical failure.There has to be a limit to how long an engine will last when being asked to run at 18.000 rpm .Oh well,I guess we'll find out :)
Another Hans.The place is overrun with them ;D
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Eddy,
There is only one winner in F1 every year and that's Bernie. Here in Melbourne we pay in excess of $A40 mill. each year just to stage the "event". Bernie is a pretty smart operator as his billions testify (but then again maybe not for hoping his ex will give them back).
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Hi PD's....well poodge........you my be opening a breech here :ranting....as the humble Michael the 'Shoeeemanmacher'...acknowledges that ...that the Anton Sennia as one of the greatest
This is OK in PD's as an off topic item & we have our own PD member Hans involved in the BMW-Sauber team :clap - Derek :beer
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Hi PD's,
it is only two days to go till we send our cars and stuff to Melbourne, it seems our car is reliable and fast to, but at the moment the BGP (former Honda team) is also quick, but as Ken Tyrrell used to say "When the flag dropes the bull...t stops, so in only 12 days we know who has done his homework better then the others.
Keep the fingers crossed for(BMW-Sauber Team), regards Hans
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Eddy. Does this mean that our Sunday visits to the lunch time watering hole will be discontinued cos some silly grown up men are racing their dinky toys?. Whatever next .. it will be toy boats!.
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I've polished up my mouse pad Hans ;) Hopefully Eddy has polished his cap badges. You should have a trip to Oz with the cars :vacation
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Eddy. Does this mean that our Sunday visits to the lunch time watering hole will be discontinued cos some silly grown up men are racing their dinky toys?. Whatever next .. it will be toy boats!.
Don't be afraid Walter the start of the race will be at 7am so the finish should be around 9am so there is plenty of time to sail your boat's ;) ;) ;)
Regards Hans
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Well, what a topsy-turvy first couple of qualifying sessions!
Williams, Braun, and Toyota lead the way - With last years major contenders of Ferarri, McLaren and BMW-Sauber struggling! Unless there are some dramatic changes, it's not looking good for any of last years top teams!
So, who will win the first GP of the season? My money is on Barrichello at the moment....
Regards
Eddy
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I could be completely wrong,Eddy,but I wouldn't put a bit of "sandbagging" beyond the tricks used to psyche out the opposition ;D
All the same,I'm looking forward to the first race of the season,my wife less so.She hates "those noisy things going round 'n round".It would be great if "Rubino" did win some races,he really deserves some luck.
Regards.Hans.
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Hi Eddy, Hans and all the others are interrested in the Formula1,
i am not surprised about this result so far, let's talk about it after the race, i bet on Robert ;)
regards Hans
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Hi Eddy, Hans and all the others are interrested in the Formula1,
i am not surprised about this result so far, let's talk about it after the race, i bet on Robert ;)
regards Hans
After the dismal pre-qualifying for BMW-Sauber (and others), I think Kubica put in a sterling effort for the timed session. But is he (or anyone else) running light on fuel? We'll find out tomorrow....
The alarm is set for 6am ready for the start of the race - It should be one of the most exciting F1 seasons for decades!
Regards
Eddy
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DON'T FORGET THE CLOCKS GO FORWARD TONIGHT!
Stuart
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DON'T FORGET THE CLOCKS GO FORWARD TONIGHT!
Stuart
Already sorted Stuart, but thanks for the reminder! It wouldn't be the first time I'd forgotten!! :hehe
Eddy
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Hi PD's,
unfortunately this wasn't the start into the season i wanted, i expected some action and we where on a good way to finish at the podium but sadly we lost :'(.......... OK go forward to the next race next weekend ;). The speed is good :), Robert drove the second fastest lap behind Rosberg with his Williams.
Regards Hans
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Hi PD's......were the support races televised :breakcomp internationally? did you see our OZ V8 super car race?........... :beer.....Derek
I find it amazing that the new Brawn team can win 1+2 & only be 4 months old........ :trophy
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[quote I find it amazing that the new Brawn team can win 1+2 & only be 4 months old........ :trophy
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Perhaps this shows where some of M Schumacher's success lay.I've only just watched the tape of the race,and if things continue the way they've started,it's going to be an exciting season.I can only agree with Ross Brawn's comment to Jensen after the race,that it was well deserved.Is this the year JB finally gets a car that matches his talent?
I wouldn't write the established front runners off just yet though.Hamilton came up from dead last to 4th.Admittedly he was helped by various people parking their cars in the scenery,but it was still a grand drive.
Roll on the next race,for the first time in several years I'm actually looking forward to the next one!
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I find it amazing that the new Brawn team can win 1+2 & only be 4 months old........ :trophy
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Please don't forget the Brawn team isn't 4 months old this is the former Honda team. After the first races of the last season the Honda team found the car isn't a front runner so they put all their power and money into the development of the 2009 car. Compared to the other teams Ross Brawn and his crew had much more time to design the car and don't forget they have now an Championship winning engine.
regards Hans
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So is everyone enjoying the Formula One Powerboats in Malaysia? :hehe
They need some new aerodynamic aids - Called oars!!
Eddy
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No Paddels
Peter
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Good idea crash93,
i'd like to see formula1 cars with paddlewheels made from carbon ;D
regards Hans
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Good idea crash93,
i'd like to see formula1 cars with paddlewheels made from carbon ;D
regards Hans
How about this? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YumbmccubmA&feature=related
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Eddy. I too loved F.1. once but what a farce. Watch MOTO GP insted far better racing, even if no 46 dominates. R.G.Y. ex brisca F2 blue top, 1983-1995.
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Hi PD's,
this season is a strange one, normally when a lot of rules have changed from one season to the other the gap between the cars is bigger then before. This year it is totally different, i had now a look at the 3rd. practice of the Turkish GP and the gap between the 1th. and the last car is 1.4 seconds over a 5.338 kilometer lap. In the year 2008 it was 2.1 sec , 2007 also 2.1 sec and in 2006 2.7. The reason why i took the 3rd. practice is, in the qualifying the cars have to be filled with the fuel they need for the first part of the race but in this practice session they are all on a low fuel level and in this way better to compare.
Regards Hans
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F1 has now been thrown into total chaos after a press announcement last night from FOTA (F1 Teams Association) saying they will setup a rival series and withdraw from the current FIA series.
Eight of the top teams, Brawn GP, Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso are all standing firm, refusing to submit an unconditional entry for the 2010 championship following a row over budget capping proposed by Max Mosley. Williams and Force India have already signed up to the new budget capped rules, and were removed from FOTA as a result.
F1 has always been a circus, but now it appears the clowns are running the show :(
Eddy
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Hi Eddy,
i agree with you, especially what you said about the circus ;) in my opinion it would be the best if Max Mosley signed off the FIA and meet Ron Dennis :whistle to enjoy their retirement :beer.
Hopefully they can sort out all these problems and there will be a real Formula1 :no1b who has the right to say we are the no1. category in motorsport, keep the fingers crossed.
Enjoy your home GP, regards Hans
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Fear not,Eddy.The money men of F1 know on which side their bread is buttered.They will not let the whole shebang fall apart.I think the current posturing by both sides is indicative of the financial turmoil the whole world finds itself in at present.I'm sure there will be more negotiations.
I don't know how Mosley managed to survive this far though.Probably being a pal of Bernie's hasn't hurt him any.In any other big company(and lets face it,that's what F1 is now),he would have been shown the door long ago.The original"Teflon Don" ;D
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What an exciting race, not the result i would prefere but a lot of action, nice fights like Heidfeld/Alonso and Kubica/Hamilton i hope the next race will be better for us :-\
regards Hans
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Hi Paddleducks,
it is no longer the most exciting Formula1 season :( after 11 races with only 8 championship points for our team, we had an disappointing season. This wasn't enough, BMW announced today to leave the F1 at the end of the season. i can't say what i think or feel so far :'(
I hope we can do the same as the Ex-Honda Now-Brawn team, keep the fingers crossed for us( for me)
regards Hans
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After thinking about it for a while, I feel that BMW may not be the only major manufacturer to pull out of F1, with the current economic climate.
I'm sure that another source for engines can be found, and as you say, maybe it will be a good thing in the long run?
More news just being released is that Michael Schumacher will drive for Ferrari in the European GP to replace the injured Fillipe Massa. Massa is unlikely to drive again this season due to his injuries, but his progress is good.... Doctors hope he will leave hospital next week and fly home to Brazil.
Regards
Eddy
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Fingers firmly crossed hans. I'm sure it's not beyond Swiss ingenuity to come up with a new power source and, hopefully, follow Brawn into a better future (with excellent suspension components of course) ;)
:goodluck
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Thank's mate's this is what i need right now ;) ;) ;)
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Good news..... Filipe Massa has been released from hospital after his horrifying accident, and flew home to Sao Paulo, Brazil, yesterday.
Considering he underwent major surgery to his fractured skull and left eye only 10 days ago he looks in remarkably good condition! Here's to a speedy recovery....
Eddy
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Welllllll,it appears M.Schumacher may be stepping into the empty Ferrari seat for the remainder of the season.Has he still got it?Is the Ferrari fast enough?This could get exciting.
I hope Felipe recovers fully from that horrendous crash.He seems a nice lad.
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Hi PD's,
i think Schumacher is good enough to do this job, but it could be the end of Kimis Raikkonens carrer, if Michael is faster then he, Raikkonen could be replaced by Alonso.
regards Hans.
ps. hi poodge, you are right Felipe is a nice lad, i meet him severel times during his carrer with Sauber.
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that could be a blessing for F1.
I don't wish to sound contraversial on my first posting, but I have always thought that Raikkonen is an absolutely awful ambasador for the F1 drivers.
He hated Shumie having such a possition in the Ferarri team after retirement and made his opinions known verbally.
I think it will make a great change and an invigorating refresher to the exciting year that we have been having, and if Raikkonen goes, I don't think he will be any great loss to the sport.
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Good morning all PD's,
for me yesterday was Christmas, Easter and birthday at one day, we were told, Mr. Sauber has bought the team back from BMW.
There is one bad thing, they had to dismiss 138 employees, but luckily i will continue with the team and our new-old owner. I can not promise you we will do it like BRAWN this year but we will try our best. I am looking forward to the new season.
kind regards Hans
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Hello Hans, most excellent news for you. It is a pity for the other employees but once the team are competing and running as in the past then the opportunity to rejoin the team may come around again.
cheers
Jim
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Great news Hans!
The annoying part of all this is that Peter Sauber wanted to buy the team back as soon as BMW quit, but they said no and went for a higher offer. Now that the original deal has fallen through, they have gone back to Peter Sauber again - Typical!
We can only hope that the new team gets the 13th position on the grid, now that Toyota have withdrawn from F1.
So it's not all sorted yet, but it looks promising!! :)
Regards
Eddy
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Great news Hans. Keep up the good work :)
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Fantastic news Hans - and I wish you and Sauber all the best for the forthcoming season once the 13th position is confirmed as I am sure it will be. I'll be rooting for you to finish just behind Frank in 2nd :)
Andrew
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The confirmation has arrived http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8393888.stm
Good luck Hans
Andrew
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Great news, so Hans' job is safe, and the team now have a place on the grid....
But now Renault are talking of quitting F1.....
Eddy
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yes yes yes, we have got the starting slot for 2010, let's go for the new season....................
regards Hans
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All sorts of F1 news this week....
Renault will stay in F1, although with a minority shareholding in the team.
Ex F1 drivers will become part of the team of officials at each race, which is meant to give better and more level handed decisions on any penalties that are handed out by the stewards etc.
Michael Schumacher is still rumoured to be making a comeback next season.
Silverstone has eventually been given a 17 yr contract to stage the British GP.
New points scoring system, which will mean the top 10 cars will all score points. 25 points for first, 20 points for second, 15 points for third, 10 points for fourth, 8 points for fifth, then 6, 5, 3, 2, 1....
Canada will return to host an F1 race, and South Korea will also stage one for the first time... There will be a total of 19 races in 2010, which equals the record set in 2005 (last year there were 17 races).
Regards
Eddy
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Lotus F1 have confirmed Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen as their drivers for the 2010 Formula 1 season.
Trulli joins the new Malaysian-backed team from Toyota, while Kovalainen moves after he was left without a seat due to Jenson Button's move to McLaren.
Eddy
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More news.....
Sauber have signed Japan's Kamui Kobayashi as one of their two race drivers for the 2010 Formula 1 season. Kobayashi was the test driver for Toyota in 2008 and 2009. Last year he stood in for the injured Timo Glock in the last two races of the season, finishing a very creditable sixth in the final race at Abu Dhabi.
Mercedes boss Nick Fry has dropped the strongest hint yet that Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher will come out of retirement to race next year in the renamed Brawn GP team.
Eddy
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Hi PD's,
as Eddy said, we have now Kobayashi as a driver, everyone who has seen him last year driving for Toyota will agree, he seems to be a good one a fighter, keep the fingers crossed he can show as much as in his first races. We try our best to give him a reliable car to show his best.
regards Hans
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Sauber have announced that they will unveil their new car in Valencia later this month. The launch will be held on January 31, the day before the first official three-day test of 2010 gets underway at the Spanish track.
Eddy
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Sauber have signed McLaren reserve driver Pedro de la Rosa to complete their driver line-up for 2010.
De la Rosa, 38, has spent seven years as test driver at McLaren but will now return to racing for the first time since 2006.
Eddy
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Hi PD's,
last year at this time i was really excited to see what we can achieve in 2009 after a good 2008 season.
But this year i am more then nervous, two new driver, some new rules and we are again a Private owned team. My only wish for 2010 is to show the guys in Munich we can build a reliable and fast car, a better one then we had last year with BMW.
regards Hans
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Well, all the teams are now queuing up to launch their new cars for 2010....
The dates/places for the various launches are as follows:
January 28 - Ferrari, Maranello, Italy
January 29 - McLaren, Newbury, UK
January 31 - BMW Sauber/Renault, Valencia, Spain
February 1 - Mercedes GP/Williams, Valencia, Spain
February 10 - Red Bull/Force India, Jerez, Spain
Early February - US, Barber Motorsport Park, Alabama, USA
February 12 - Lotus
There’s still no official word yet from fellow newcomers Virgin or Campos. Toro Rosso are also yet to announce launch plans.
Regards
Eddy
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Ferrari have unveiled their new car for 2010....
Eddy
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:porkies......or is it an optical illusion ???? :oops ..did the put the larger diameter rear wheel onto the nose :picknose :picknose :picknose :nahnah ....Derek
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Just an optical illusion Derek, here's a few more images of the new car....
Eddy
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Hi Eddy,
where are the photos of your National Team, McLaren, Button, Hamilton?????
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Just to please Hans, the new McLaren MP4-25 revealed today....
Eddy
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Formula 1 will have a new points system for the 2010 after an agreement between the governing body (FIA) and the teams.
The new system will see places rewarded in a 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 sequence.
F1 bosses believe a seven-point gap between first and second place, rather than the current two-point separation, will promote a 'race-to-win' attitude.
New tyre rules mean drivers must start races on the same tyres they set their grid time in, while 'double diffusers' will be banned from 2011.
The Formula 1 Commission, a decision-making forum for the teams and major stakeholders, agreed the amendments to the sporting and technical regulations at a meeting on Monday.
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Hi PD,s
today we have been the fastest 8) hope this is the same at every raceweekend.
regards Hans
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Hi PD,s
today we have been the fastest 8) hope this is the same at every raceweekend.
regards Hans
They were 3rd fatsest at the first test too, but I didn't want to mention it as they did well in pre-season testing last year and then got nowhere! :(
Lets wait until the first race, and then see how things go, hopefully last year was just a little "dip" in forum?
Regards
Eddy
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nota good start in the hew season :( but shit happens some times :'(
regards Hans
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The BMW Saubers didn't do too well :( Why is it still called BMW Sauber, when BMW pulled out and sold the team to Peter Sauber, and the car is powered by a Ferrari engine?
Anyway, I have to say it really was a boring race to watch - If it hadn't been for the cracked exhaust on Vettels car reducing his power and allowing the two Ferraris and the McLaren of Hamilton to pass, there wouldn't have been anything worth seeing for 3/4 of the race! :(
I really hope it was just the Bahrain circuit, and that the next race will be a bit more interesting! Even as a life long fan of F1 I have to say that something really must be done to allow overtaking!
Regards
Eddy
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Must agree with you Eddy. I have been a moter racing fan for 60 years. From the days of E.R.A. BOB GERARD. BRM.RAYMOND MAYS. & THE 500 COOPERS. Evan raced my own designed and built BRISCA FII stock car. But for the last couple of years I follow moto gp. much more interesting. Geoff :'( :'(
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I'd rather have watched the paint and cement dry on the extra six corners that the old prince had added to his circuit that have to watch that again......won't be any early morning starts for me in future if that is what we are all in for....rather catch my beauty sleep, lol :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:(
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I suppose I was one of the lucky ones, with a bit of forward planning.......
I had a piece of wood warping in the workshop, so when I got bored I went and watched that for a while :hehe
Eddy
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Well, it's just gone 6:30am UK time, so not long to go until the Grand Prix - Lets hope it's a bit more interesting than the farce at Bahrain!
Regards
Eddy
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That's more like it. Not that I got up at 5 o-clock real time. Geoff
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I thoroughly enjoyed the Australian race, excitement all the way - So much more enjoyable than Bahrain!
Malaysia could throw up a few surprises too - With the distinct potential for heavy rain (remember the race was abandoned last year and half points were awarded), and this year is likely to be the same. So some of the minor teams could score big points, just to liven up the mix a little :)
A slightly better start time too for those of us in Europe to manage!
Regards
Eddy
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What a race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luckily Webber is unhurt, thanks to the safety rules.
But what could we say about Kobayashi, he did a brilliant job, 53 laps on the prime tyres with many really fast laps, and at the end he caught Alonso and Buemi and made it to 7th. place. Also Pedro finished in the points what a race for us.
I will have a big dram tonight :beer
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Yes a great race for Sauber Hans :)
And with 5 cars under investigation for speeding behind the safety car, it is possible that Kobayashi could end up in third place!
Regards
Eddy
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i have to laugh at Alonso.....slimey little towrag will try anything to drop hamilton in the doodah...sadly for him, and a lot of the gp watchers..it failed badly today.......and he looked a right **** for doing so, lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D