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Paddler Modelling => Accessories, Lighting, Sounds etc => Topic started by: mike32 on January 13, 2009, 09:09:10 AM

Title: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 13, 2009, 09:09:10 AM
I have tried the sites recommended in previous forums but can not locate passenger figures at 1/48 for HJEJLEN.Has anyone any further suggestions.?
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: djcf on January 14, 2009, 05:52:10 AM
Hi Mike,
You could try  Midway Models, 157 St Leonards Road, Leicester, LE2 3BZ
Tel. 0116 2701609.
Sorry don't have web details.
I had a catalogue a few years ago and they had figures, can't remember what scales though.
regards Clark
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mjt60a on January 14, 2009, 06:24:08 AM
closest I've found is the Preiser figures, they're 1:50 (for 'O' guage rail ?) but don't look too bad..
...in fact the ones I bought (quite cheaply at a model fair in Southend) appear to have been cast from moulds made of the Preiser figures, they look almost identical but not quite as well defined - a bit like the detail on a counterfeit £1 coin!
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 14, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
Thanks for info which I will follow up. I will ask a railway buff friend what scale o guage is.
mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: Eddy Matthews on January 14, 2009, 09:38:03 PM
O gauge is 1:43 scale....

The common railway scales are:

1 Gauge = 1:32
O Gauge = 1:43
S Gauge = 1:64
OO Gauge = 1:76
HO Gauge = 1:87
N Gauge = 1:160
Z Gauge = 1:220

Regards
Eddy
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 14, 2009, 11:08:41 PM
You beat me to it, O gauge is 7mm to the foot, which as you say equals 1:43.54
mike.
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: steamboatmodel on January 15, 2009, 12:13:32 AM
O Gauge is also 1/48 in the USA. I have some that were made by Preiser, also some other brands.
Regards,
Gerald
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mjt60a on January 15, 2009, 06:59:44 AM
These are the ones I got - http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Preiser_Figures_1_45_1_48_1_50_Scales_Retail_Only.html - 1:50 seated figures and 1:50 pedestrians in casual dress. I didn't know but they also do 1:48 scale but those appear to be war time 'air force' personnel
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: steamboatmodel on January 15, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
1/48 is 1/4" to the Foot and is used in architectural modeling in North America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1:48_scale
I think that Europe being Metric use 1/50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1:50_scale
I have found that you can use figures from the two scales almost interchangeably, just don't mix in 1/43.
Regards,
Gerald
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 16, 2009, 06:19:46 AM
Thanks Mick,the figures at scale link look promising, but for the qty to make the boat look occupied I may purchase the unpainted set of 24. The set of 3 hot pants would make for an interesting passenger line up though!
Many thanks
mike.
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: Walter Snowdon on January 16, 2009, 07:10:12 AM
Ther is a Chinese company called WeHonest who advertise constantly on ebay stores They do ready painted railway figures in all scales in large lots of fifty plus, ready painted for 0 gauge, (48th or 50th scale) I think there are ten different poses including seated.  The price for 50 is less than £5 post free anywhere.
They also do 32nd,  24th, 00,Ho N,  and z gauge, all painted. They also sell unpainted 0 gauge figures in batches of 200 at ridiculously cheep prices (Work out at about 5p each), plus groups of painted Arab civilians! Payment by paypal.
Sorry to be vague about the ebay address. (My son has ordered me fifty figures to see what they are like). regards, walter
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: Walter Snowdon on January 16, 2009, 07:26:05 AM
Just found another Chinese site selling painted 0 gauge civilians ".100 painted figures model train people" for £18. ebay reference is 280287009045. Look at the rest of his store for others. Sorry im a bit vague  never did learn how to use there electric type computers. Regards, walter,
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: Tug--Kenny on January 16, 2009, 10:07:13 PM
There is a Chinese company called WeHonest who advertise constantly on ebay stores They do ready painted railway figures in all scales in large lots of fifty plus, ready painted for 0 gauge, (48th or 50th scale)  (My son has ordered me fifty figures to see what they are like). regards, walter

Hi Walter

I have these on my Waverley. I found the colours a little 'Garrish' so have dulled them down a bit. Good value for money, but not as detailed as I would have wished.

Looks good when viewed from a distance on the lake though.

Cheers

Ken



Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: Daryl on January 17, 2009, 11:14:06 AM
I had a similar problem with my Bohemia paddeler, I got some figures from this chap and very good they are too. Superb detailing and very quick service.

http://www.aidan-campbell.co.uk/
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mjt60a on January 21, 2009, 06:52:02 AM
I had no idea Preiser made such a varied range of figures - http://www.ontracks.co.uk/index.php?page=product&prodID=71510&catID=60 - actually, using the links on the left of the page leads to many suitable figures in a variety of scales. The 'DB Railway personnel' would make good crew members for our ships....
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 23, 2009, 01:09:47 AM
Have ordered 50 O guage £8.60 from e-bay.ourmodelworld inc p&p.Let you know how they turn out.Thanks for all the suggestions.
mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mjt60a on January 23, 2009, 06:35:44 AM
I just had  look at those (from that sellers ebay shop) and they are exactly like the ones I bought. If you compare them to the preiser figures, the clothing and positions they are standing/sitting are identical, but the faces and clothing (buttons, creases etc) are somehow less detailed - which is why I think someone has made moulds of the preiser figures and cast their own copies...
that didn't stop me buying some though  :-X
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 24, 2009, 04:29:21 AM
I will photograph them when they arrive. The delivery is delayed because of holidays, so it will be February before I see them.
I have to make a decision as to where to seperate the cabin and canopies so that I can can access the electrics etc.
It seems very  difficut to have to remove both the rear cabin and the canopy which is supported by the colums.Any ideas?
mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: djcf on January 24, 2009, 09:27:52 AM
Mike,
I have been looking at pictures of the HJEJLEN, she's a fine looking paddler.
It seems that the present canopy is rigid, and also considerably larger than the older awning type canopy, what way are you modelling her?

Clark
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 25, 2009, 03:47:35 AM
Hi Clark
Thanks for the interest,

The model is an old Billing kit and the plan is based on the 1942 version with a solid canopy over both the rear cabin and front passenger well.I have made the canopies, replacing the 1mm mahogany sheet (which had split with age ) with 1/16 birch ply. The problem is that the canopies stand on 2mm dia brass posts. To access the electrics I will need to remove the rear canopy then the rear cabin. Do I leave the posts attached to the canopy and have small tubes at deck level to locate them or fix the posts on the hull and locate the canopy on top of them. I favour the first method as it leaves the hull clear for access.Any other ideas.?
mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: djcf on January 25, 2009, 11:18:06 AM
Mike,
At present, I am making a non paddler model , where the access is (should be!) easier than on the HJEJLEN. I have spent many hours working out the best way for hull access, as I want max space to get inside, as you know...
On HJEJLEN, with the larger canopy,& in my limited experience, I would go for keeping the canopy & legs in one piece, with the legs slotting into the deck. 2mm legs/frame with rigid covering may be strong enough for removal etc. Also no stantions sticking up for you to damage!!
Maybe you could get some advice from PD'S who have modelled Waverley, as the stantion problem is there also.. But I'm sure you will have to deal with a removable canopy then deal with the deck shelter.
Looking forward to hearing your methods, as I'm sure this is a problem many have faced!!
regards Clark
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on January 25, 2009, 09:22:23 PM
Hi Clark
I am going for the stanchions attached to the rigid canopy option. Thanks for your input.
Mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on February 10, 2009, 08:18:37 AM
Could not get my head round the 1/48 figures required for HJEJLEN as the tops of their heads would hardy show over the railings. Examining the Billings plan it is shown as 1/4 to the foot, now I realise the plan must have been enlarged from the original without changing the scale reference. Working off the fullsize ship dimensions the scale is 3/8 to the foot,ie 1 gauge.
Photos also show passengers leaning against the railing with the rails at waist height. This now means I have got to order larger figures. Just shows you can not take plans for granted.
mike
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mjt60a on February 10, 2009, 08:46:27 AM
Yes, I think I read somewhere that Hjelen is in 1/32nd scale (it's quite a small vessel) but that means you can use scalextric, airfix, MRRC, carrera, preiser or britains ltd figures!
I just ordered (and have since recieved) this set - http://www.getslotted.co.uk/default.aspx?category=3&code=MC-5092 - which are 1/32nd
I bought this set some time ago (but on ebay) - http://www.getslotted.co.uk/Zoom.aspx?ProductID=2048&ImageURL=carrera_figures_grandstand_21108_thumb.gif&ProductCode=21108&ProductManuID=2 there are 20 figures in the box but actually there are only 5 different and you get 4 of each, still they are poseable and when repainted should look all different!
Here are some scalextric ones on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/scalextric-figures_W0QQitemZ200307628314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_Games_Scalextrics_Slot_Cars_ET?hash=item200307628314&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
The airfix (as it was before MRRC) figures I also got on ebay but I don't see any there now, pity because they're as good as preiser! I also have some preiser figures and some britains....
one of the airfix figs is shown below
Title: Re: Scale figures2
Post by: mike32 on February 11, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
Thanks Mick I will try all those, just wished I had checked the scale before ordering from China the set of 25 at 1/48 scale.
mike