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Large Paddler Builds => General discussion (Large) => Topic started by: jock on July 01, 2007, 06:53:08 PM
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In a 1982 edition of Engineering in Miniature I came across a 15' paddlesteamer "Firecrest" has anyone any info of this boat?
I would be interested in building a similar vessel.
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I am sure there was an article in the american live steam magazine it was built by a priest in sa or wa I think
will have a look over the weekend
cheers
Anthony
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Is this the Firecrest you mean? This is a Frolic 18 and was built in 1982. It has a Stuart Turner Swan engine, and a boiler built by Roger Mallinson. It is 18 feet long (not the 15 you mention).
More details can be found in The Steamboat Register published by the Steam Boat Association of Great Britain (SBA) ISBN 0 9513158 1 1.
This is the sixth edition published in 1994, so there will be later versions.
Malcolm
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Woops - missed that you are talking paddle steamers
Malcolm
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sorry wrong paddle steamer this was a little 13 foot side wheeler with a 3ft beam that was based in south oz.
It was powered by a twin steam engine and verticle boiler.
regards Anthony
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Hi everyone, I would be interested to know from Jock if he knows which edition of EIM he was referring to in his original post. I would love to get hold of a copy. Firecrest has been in long term storage with her previous owner until January of this year when I purchased her. She is now in the middle of a full restoration and coming on nicely.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has any pictures or info about the boat to help build a picture of her history. We have some information but mot much, here's hoping some of you have seen her before.
many thanks
David.
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Restoration almost complete. First time on the water in 42 years.
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Well....she looks in absolutely as new after what must have been a 1st Class if lengthy 42 year re-fit, the Dockyard Crew is to be congratulated :bravo...
....but don't praise them up too much or they will want a $ Payrise
Would you be good enough to show her means of propulsion.......any Plant that makes so much smoke or steam ain't 1/2 bad
Derek :beer
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It's a beautiful boat - please post more pictures and specs.
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She was built in 1973 by a model engineer named David Garrick. He designed and built the entire boat and it's equipment himself in an astonishing 9 months. He ran her for 5 years covering many hundreds of miles, including a sponsored cruise on the Thames in 1976. This was for the RNLI starting from Lechlade and finishing at Teddington lock, a distance of 123 miles taking 10 days with stops for fundraising and overnighting. At some point during 1978 we believe he hit the starboard paddle wheel on something solid, resulting in a twisted crankshaft. The boat sat on his drive for a couple of years before being sold to a collector from the south coast. The new owner put her in his shed and from what we can tell, he never even set foot inside the cabin. All of the builders personal effects were still in place. She came up for sale with a dealer in Kent during December 2019. I purchased her in the January of 2020 and have taken the year to do the restoration work which I have done myself. The paddle wheels are feathering but were seized, the crank needed to be repaired and new piston rings fitted. The boiler had to be removed, stripped, cleaned and a start on the process of getting it approved and tested. The hull is marine ply on mahogany frames and was in very good condition. the decks and roof sections all needed work as did the cabin and sponsons. The boat, whilst a freelance design, is based on the Clyde built style. The machinery is authentic to the full size counterparts with the boiler being a proper wet back scotch return tube type. The engine is a compound diagonal paddle engine that exhausts to a condenser. In total there are 8 water pumps on board and amenities include electric lighting and hot and cold running water to the basin in the cabin. She is quite complex and fits a surprising amount into her diminutive 15' 6" length. If all goes well (it might not as the preview doesn't seem to work) you should see a few photos below that show most of it. Have taken hundreds. Also still on the lookout for any old photos or information re places she has been etc.
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Today, Firecrest had her first proper paddle down the water in just over forty years. Conditions were not ideal with the wind gaining in strength as the day went on, but still an enjoyable day.
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Well she looks superb on the water :clap ....the seating position is unique......you wouldn't have much to say too much with/to the Captain :great
Did you see any Rabbits bouncing around with their chocolate Balls? :hehe
Derek :beer
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Thanks Derek, have to say my mind was firmly on other things rather than Easter bunnys and chocolate. ;D
As for the communication, the windows in the bulkhead between the cabin and engine room are removeable. this alows suitable refreshments to be prepared and passed out to the engineer. ;)
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I feel enthusiastic about this boat! Please tell us the dimensions of the engine. My "Fulton`s Folly" seems in about the same size.
Thomas
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Hello Thomas
Firescrest is 15 feet 6 inches (4.72m) in length overall and 5 feet 10 inches (1.76m) beam. The beam includes the paddle boxes. The cabin is about 4 feet in width.
From the photos I would say they are similar in size but it can be hard to say from a photo.
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It`s rather similar, F. F. has a lenght of 505 cm, beam of hull is 101 cm and beam over paddleboxes 145 cm. But the deplacement of the empty boat is very low - only 130 kg. The cabin of Firecrest is a very succesful solution and also the whole optical impression of the boat is nice.
Thomas
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I have no idea on the displacement of Firecrest but she must be fairly similar. The cabin is very nice but does cause a problem in windy weather. With such a lightweight boat, the high sides of the cabin did catch the wind yesterday and cause us some issues. The engine is rated by the builder as a 1/2hp compound diagonal paddle engine, similar in layout to Maid of the Loch in Scotland.
I will post up a couple of videos if that's possible and if I can work out how to.
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For those with a few spare pennies (well rather a lot really) monarch is up for sale by Preston Steam Services. Even if I won the Lottery I woluld sdadly not be buying as at 14 feet wide over sponsons I doubt if she would pass through the locks on the River Nene near Peterborough (UK).John.
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In this coincidence: Probably the smallest paddlesteamer of the world, build by Heiko Schmalz in Saxon. This very interesting boat is a converted GDR faltboat. Heiko is a very skilled engineer.
The vertical boiler is coal fired.
Thomas