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Paddler Information => Research => Topic started by: AlistairD on June 11, 2007, 09:10:32 AM
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I have been forgetting to post CSAY images, so hers is one of the two famous MacBrayne paddle steamers COLUMBA (nearer) and IONA at Ardrishaig.
COLUMBA was built in 1878 for David MacBrayne for the Glasgow to Ardrishaig mail service. This left Glasgow daily at 7am, latterly, 7.11, and sailed via Greenock, Dunoon, Rothesay, Tighnabruiach and Tarbert for Ardrishaig. At Tarbert there was a coach connection to the Islay mail steamer at West Loch Tarbert, and at Ardrishaig, there was a connection with the little LINNET, described as a 'floating tramcar', along the Crinan Canal to Crinan, where another MacBrayne paddle steamer sailed for Oban, Fort William, and connecting with a service up the Caledonian Canal for Inverness. This was known as the Riyal Route because Queen Victoria had taken it in the 1840s. COLUMBA was very much an up-market steamer, carrying the aristocracy to their shooting lodges in the Highlands. She was the longest ever Clyde paddle steamer
IONA was built in 1864, to replace an earlier vessels of the same name which had been sold for blockade-running in the American Civil War, but never made it, and neither did the first IONA which was sold for a similar purpose. She was built for the Ardrishaig mail route, and after being replaced by COLUMBA, she was relegated to use as a secondary steamer on this route and also from time to time on other routes, such as Glasgow to Lochgoilhead, and Oban to Fort William.
Both had very long lives and sailed right up to the 1935 season, and were scrapped in 1936
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Hi All,
Great pictures Alistair, it's a shame we do not still have such vessels, apart from Waverley.
Although not a paddler, but just to complete the picture, here is a shot of the LINNET taken as she enters LOCK 8, heading towards Ardrishaig.
This Lock is right outside my front door....which would be just out of shot, to the right.
The Cairnbaan store is there to this day, and the area still looks very much the same.
LINNET was built in 1866 by J G Thomson of Clydebank.
She was 33 tons.
Her motive power was 2 screws, driven by simple 2 cylinder inverted engines.
She served on the Crinan Canal from 1866 - 1929 when she was retired.
She then went on to GareLoch and, with some additional deck housing, became the club house for the Glasgow Motor Boat Racing Club until she was finally destroyed during a storm in January 1932.
Keep Happy.
Sandy. :D :D :computer
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LINNET look as though she would be a good modelling project
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Alistair
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Hi All,
Great pictures Alistair, it's a shame we do not still have such vessels, apart from Waverley.
Although not a paddler, but just to complete the picture, here is a shot of the LINNET taken as she enters LOCK 8, heading towards Ardrishaig.
This Lock is right outside my front door....which would be just out of shot, to the right.
The Cairnbaan store is there to this day, and the area still looks very much the same.
LINNET was built in 1866 by J G Thomson of Clydebank.
She was 33 tons.
Her motive power was 2 screws, driven by simple 2 cylinder inverted engines.
She served on the Crinan Canal from 1866 - 1929 when she was retired.
She then went on to GareLoch and, with some additional deck housing, became the club house for the Glasgow Motor Boat Racing Club until she was finally destroyed during a storm in January 1932.
Keep Happy.
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Hi PD's,
Alistair...yes she would make a nice model, especially a steam powered version, however, I think that finding sufficient info on her to draw plans from will be a little difficult...as far as I have been able to research, this is about the only published photo of her....and I have yet to locate any drawings.
Just as an add on...here are a few more pictures of the PS 'Columba' that I have....
+ another of PS 'Iona III' at Ardrishaig pier.
Happy Paddling.
Best Regards.
Sandy. :D :D :vacat
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Hi PD's ..... yes Sandy...the Columba.2 & Columba3 snaps confirm very generous spacing in the lounge :gather & eating :coffee area... I assume these were the FIRST Class :no1 facilities......are these areas FWD or AFT of the paddles?...and if so what were the conditions like at the opposite :shhh end?
Do you have any snaps of the steering compartment? :music as that where my relos would be eating their Vegimite sangas & the odd :beer :yeah
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Well, I have six photos of her in my MacBrayne steamers book, the first of these showing her with railings rather than a cabin round the end of the main deck. I am sure there are lots more in the Langmuir Collection in the Mitchell Library
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Alistair
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Hi PD's,
Alistair...yes she would make a nice model, especially a steam powered version, however, I think that finding sufficient info on her to draw plans from will be a little difficult...as far as I have been able to research, this is about the only published photo of her....and I have yet to locate any drawings.
Just as an add on...here are a few more pictures of the PS 'Columba' that I have....
+ another of PS 'Iona III' at Ardrishaig pier.
Happy Paddling.
Best Regards.
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Obviously, I don't have the memory of the beautiful boats just posted, but I do have the memory of the beautiful waterway.
It came to mind only a couple of weeks back. If the move to rescue PS/PV Compton Castle [hard to tell when there is no engine; just P Compton Castle?] gains momentum, this is a waterway which would suit it well, and bring back the image of SS Linnet only just posted.
I took the enclosed photo photo on my second trip to the highlands.
1975-76: Edinburgh - Aberdeen - Inverness - Wick & Thurso.
1979-80: west highlands, including crossing by ferry from Kyle of Lochalsh to Skye, cruising with Caledonian MacBrayne (not yet contracted to CalMac?) from the far end to Mallaig, and a later visit to Oban. I would have enjoyed being on Waverley's cruise of the region this year.
The photograph was taken on Sat.26.1.80. We alighted from a train at Fort William, and caught a Highland Omnibus bus to Inverness. This was a crisp sunny day, with magic reflections in the water of the lakes and canal. Fort Augustus was the lunch stop, but I was too busy photographing what seems to be a fishing boat entering a loch.
Regards,
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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Hi PD's,
Thanks for the added references re: 'SS LINNET' Alistair, I will need to get hold of a copy of that book.
Your post confirms something that was related to me by a very old family friend (sadly no longer with us, he died some 15 years ago aged 102yrs) who remembered the Linnet with an open rear deck. He thought the enclosed stern area, and the additional small upper deck, were added around 1905, perhaps to increase carrying capacity as the route became more popular.
I must admit, I have not done extensive research on her, and I am sure that much more material is available.
Derek.....I can not comment on the exact location of each of the areas shown, however, judging from the shape, and number, of windows shown in the pictures, I would suggest the dinning area (Columba_2) was ahead of the paddles, and below the weather deck, whilst the Upper saloon (Columba_3) was located Astern of the paddles, on the weather deck level.
There was also a smaller enclosed seating/observation saloon on the upper deck level, astern of the rear stack.
As for Class.....Alistair may be able to shed more light on this, but, (and Alistair has already hinted at this) the PS Columba was a top of the line ship, and hence may well have been a single class vessel...whereas PS Iona III would certainly have been a multi-class vessel..... such were the times.
I do not have any further interior photo's of her.
Keep Happy.
Sandy. :sunglasses :vacat
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Checking the photos of LINNET in my book, I see I was wrong, the photo with the open passenger deck is of the bow, and her wash shows she is steaming towards the photographer, while the next three are of her stern, then there is one side-on of her at Crinan and one of her in the Gare Loch
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Alistair
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Hi PD's,
Thanks for the added references re: 'SS LINNET' Alistair, I will need to get hold of a copy of that book.
Your post confirms something that was related to me by a very old family friend (sadly no longer with us, he died some 15 years ago aged 102yrs) who remembered the Linnet with an open rear deck. He thought the enclosed stern area, and the additional small upper deck, were added around 1905, perhaps to increase carrying capacity as the route became more popular.
I must admit, I have not done extensive research on her, and I am sure that much more material is available.
Derek.....I can not comment on the exact location of each of the areas shown, however, judging from the shape, and number, of windows shown in the pictures, I would suggest the dinning area (Columba_2) was ahead of the paddles, and below the weather deck, whilst the Upper saloon (Columba_3) was located Astern of the paddles, on the weather deck level.
There was also a smaller enclosed seating/observation saloon on the upper deck level, astern of the rear stack.
As for Class.....Alistair may be able to shed more light on this, but, (and Alistair has already hinted at this) the PS Columba was a top of the line ship, and hence may well have been a single class vessel...whereas PS Iona III would certainly have been a multi-class vessel..... such were the times.
I do not have any further interior photo's of her.
Keep Happy.
Sandy. (http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/forum/images/smiles/sunglasses2.gif) (http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/forum/images/smiles/vacat.gif)
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