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Paddler Information => Research => Topic started by: mjt60a on December 26, 2005, 08:26:17 AM
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I've been thinking about one of these as a 'future project' Here's part of an old postcard showing one of the steamers;
(http://www.btinternet.com/~mjt60a/models/ships/lcc_steamer.jpg)
...in other pictures they're sometimes shown with only square windows (no portholes) and I believe I've seen one or two pics of them in use elsewhere in europe under different names - and with the 'arched' windows as this one appears to have (there's also a model in the docklands museum - but they wouldn't let me photograph it!)
Anyway, what I'm wondering is - are the portholes in the sponsons fake? they only look about 4 ft deep so couldn't have useable space inside unless only for baggage or fuel, could they?
*edit - see some more here - http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/ThamesBoats-London.html - scroll down the page about half-way
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Here's a photo of the remains of the last of these LCC steamers, the former Gresham. She was sold to Cologne, then quickly to Memel in East Prussia where she became BEETHOVEN, then went to Prague in 1926 where she was used as a tug and named HLUBOKA. She was seized by the Wehrmacht during the war because her owner was Jewish, and moved to the Vistula where she became SMIALY. She served there as a river inspection steamer until retired in 1968 and sold to Mielno, near Koszalin on the Baltic Coast, where she became a yacht club. You can see the raised part (bitts???) for the hawsers at the bow, which can also be seen in photos of some of the LCC steamers, although the one pictured here seems not to have had it
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Alistair
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Subject: Thames LCC steamers...
I've been thinking about one of these as a 'future project' Here's part of an old postcard showing one of the steamers;
(http://www.btinternet.com/~mjt60a/models/ships/lcc_steamer.jpg)
...in other pictures they're sometimes shown with only square windows (no portholes) and I believe I've seen one or two pics of them in use elsewhere in europe under different names - and with the 'arched' windows as this one appears to have (there's also a model in the docklands museum - but they wouldn't let me photograph it!)
Anyway, what I'm wondering is - are the portholes in the sponsons fake? they only look about 4 ft deep so couldn't have useable space inside unless only for baggage or fuel, could they?
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(.....gonna need a bigger boat.....)
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Hi,
I also have been giving these steamers a little bit of thought, I havent started any serious research yet but there is a basic general arrangement on the Kingswear Castle website http://www.pskc.freeserve.co.uk/war.htm which seems to show that no official use was given to the space in the sponsons, maybe it was just storage accessed from the engine room? or maybe the portholes were just vents?
If anyone does find anymore information on this, or can point me in the direction of more info, i'd be most grateful!
Cheers
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From any photos I have of KC, it looks like the sponson decks were entirely open with no structure built on them.
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Subject: RE: Thames LCC steamers...
Hi,
I also have been giving these steamers a little bit of thought, I havent started any serious research yet but there is a basic general arrangement on the Kingswear Castle website http://www.pskc.freeserve.co.uk/war.htm (http://www.pskc.freeserve.co.uk/war.htm) which seems to show that no official use was given to the space in the sponsons, maybe it was just storage accessed from the engine room? or maybe the portholes were just vents?
If anyone does find anymore information on this, or can point me in the direction of more info, i'd be most grateful!
Cheers
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There seems nothing and no sponson houses, although there were steps aft of the paddles going up to a landing platform on top of them, from the plan that was with the London Penny Steamers article, and can also be sen on http://www.megoran.fsworld.co.uk/Refit05.htm (http://www.megoran.fsworld.co.uk/Refit05.htm), althiugh I have seen some photos of the steamers with a small structure to the aft of the sponson with three portholes
I have a plan of Rhein, as rebuilt in Switzerland, and on the port side there was a post office forwards of the paddle, and a kitchen aft with a narrow storeroom between it and the paddle,
while on the starboard side, there were 2 gents WC's forward, side by side, and an office aft with a narrow storeroom between that and the paddle
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Have you seen the photos on
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/ThamesBoats-London.html (http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/ThamesBoats-London.html)Â
well down the page
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Alistair
I also have been giving these steamers a little bit of thought, I havent started any serious research yet but there is a basic general arrangement on the Kingswear Castle website http://www.pskc.freeserve.co.uk/war.htm (http://www.pskc.freeserve.co.uk/war.htm) which seems to show that no official use was given to the space in the sponsons, maybe it was just storage accessed from the engine room? or maybe the portholes were just vents?
If anyone does find anymore information on this, or can point me in the direction of more info, i'd be most grateful!
Cheers
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